ormond

if that many watched on tv
then what do you call the rugby supporters who were at the match
the ground was full for the mens match
and almost entirely emptied for the womens

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/03/2014 20:48:08    1554901

God ormondo, where do you find your inexhaustible supply of bull? You say the six nations are world class, yet later state that it takes 4 of them together to take on a real rugby team (they usually lose too) and Bill whatever-his-name-is is perfectly qualified to play for England because his parent came from Rhodesia?! A country that doesn't even exist anymore?! Fair enough you like rugby, but a lot (not all) your arguments are ridiculous, how you can claim rte doesn't have a rugby bias is beyond any rational person, it's like saying grass isn't green, the figures are in plain view. Your only logical argument is whether it's justifiable or not

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 04/03/2014 21:21:45    1554919

RHODESIA!!!!!!!
Sweet Jasus ormo man...What planet are you on?

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 04/03/2014 21:30:08    1554926

In fairness to Ormond he is giving good arguments and oppositions to all the many exadurated and laughable ideas mentions on this forum already. "RTE are biased towards rugby"??? I really dont think this at all. if anyhting they dont cover it enough with the grassroots barely ever reaching the news. Whereas most GAA clubs championships get mentioned at the business end of their county and especially the all ireland clubs series.
Dunno how you could watch GAA all year round. gaelic basketball and hurling all year round would get tiresome.

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 04/03/2014 21:32:53    1554930

Re GAA dominates during the summer I think game time for the entire year needs to be documented.
I am pretty sure that total coverage of rugby will turn out to be greater than the total of hurling and Gaelic football combined (2 sports more widely played in Ireland).
I remember in the week leading up to the All Ireland football Final the match was mentioned only 3 times in the sports section of the Six One news. In the weekdays i.e. Mon-Fri for the last 7 weeks Rugby was covered on 32 of 35 days on the same Six One news (again courtesy of @rtewatch)Furthermore the coverage is all positive. GAA was covered 18 times some extremely short mentions and at least 4 were negative the Dublin biting issue came up on 3 occasions. It seems reasonable therefore in the light of this to question the editorial direction and neutrality in Donnybrook

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 04/03/2014 21:33:45    1554933

I think football gets praise from where it matters, that is the genuine Gaelic football media and pundits.

I was shocked to see a soccer journalist from a well known Sunday paper, giving us his expertise on Gaelic football last summer. While I'm sure he may be well informed, however a professional soccer journalist should stick to HS when wishing to fly his own county colours and make negative comments towards others ( Instead of a Sunday paper he works for ).

To remain unbiased, and give accurate and detailed analysis of a game or a team is a true art ( Especially if you can do it in a dignified way). Trash journalism became a major seller over the past 10-15 years, which can be funny on occasion I have to admit.

But I still prefer the honest and unbiased views of people like Kevin McStay and Ciaran Whelan.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 04/03/2014 21:39:55    1554938

04/03/2014 14:28:55 hill16no1man
you think because its a national team it means everybody watches it? do you think because only two countys are represented if dublin play meath. that means only two countys watch it haha. you not think gaa people all over the country turn in every sunday when the championship is on to watch the sunday game so people from kerry or cork or tyrone or donegal dont watch any matches only there own?
no they wont if somebody rathers gaa they will watch it over a sport they dont like as much
i for one watched kildare v mayo and cork v westmeath two football games the same day ireland were playing rugby last month
then why do I hear time and time again on the news that leinster or munster make 10 or 11 changes
for this weeks heniken cup team to the one who played in the rabo last week?
oh come off it physicaly not possible thats because they are not conditioned right in that case
its an athletic sport supposed to be they dont work they get paid to train if you cannot work two days a week on a building site you would be fired gaa players a lot of them play saturday night for dublin and then play sunday for the club during the league
For proper management of players bodies, abilities yes they can only play once a week. Teams don't do full training sessions in rugby the day after a game as they do recovery sessions. It just isn't physically possible for players to continuously play games Saturday or sunday then Tuesday/Wednesday then Saturday/sunday again.
Of course its not just viewers from 2 countys but way more casual viewers will be interested in a game involving the national side over 2 countys. Nationalistic pride etc
Leinster/Munster do rotate for some games. rarely 10/11 changes but they do make a good number.
And the week before Heineken cup always will have a virtually full strength side. think of Munster-Leinster clashes prior to start of group stages and prior to start of quarter finals of Heineken cup for past few seasons.
They are conditioned in the best possible manner but to say players could play as physical a sport as rugby and have a similar workload in terms of games as soccer is ridiculous.
I think if rugby players were capable of playing more then it would have been explored by unions/club, provincial owners..

04/03/2014 20:48:08
hill16no1man
Ormond, if that many watched on tv then what do you call the rugby supporters who were at the match
the ground was full fosr the mens match and almost entirely emptied for the womens I don't know. People have to travel home.. womens game kicked off fairly late so if you were travelling down the country you wouldn't be back until all hours.. that's a very valid reason
04/03/2014 21:21:45 flack
God ormondo, where do you find your inexhaustible supply of bull? You say the six nations are world class, yet later state that it takes 4 of them together to take on a real rugby team (they usually lose too) and Bill whatever-his-name-is is perfectly qualified to play for England because his parent came from Rhodesia?! A country that doesn't even exist anymore?! Fair enough you like rugby, but a lot (not all) your arguments are ridiculous, how you can claim rte doesn't have a rugby bias is beyond any rational person, it's like saying grass isn't green, the figures are in plain view. Your only logical argument is whether it's justifiable or not Lions is a unique tradition in rugby and unique in elite sport in general.
All the sides that make up the Lions are real rugby teams. Well if a lot of my arguments are bull then all of yours and most of hill16no1mans arguments must therefore also be bull.
I took that thing about his parents from a interview he did a while back....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/03/2014 21:54:43    1554943

04/03/2014 21:33:45 mod
Re GAA dominates during the summer I think game time for the entire year needs to be documented.
I am pretty sure that total coverage of rugby will turn out to be greater than the total of hurling and Gaelic football combined (2 sports more widely played in Ireland).
I remember in the week leading up to the All Ireland football Final the match was mentioned only 3 times in the sports section of the Six One news. In the weekdays i.e. Mon-Fri for the last 7 weeks Rugby was covered on 32 of 35 days on the same Six One news (again courtesy of @rtewatch)Furthermore the coverage is all positive. GAA was covered 18 times some extremely short mentions and at least 4 were negative the Dublin biting issue came up on 3 occasions. It seems reasonable therefore in the light of this to question the editorial direction and neutrality in Donnybrook really. Summer every weekend has 2-3 live games and more in busy parts of the summer. This is up with the busiest part of the rugby season. 6 Nations is huge, then there would be discussion of pro12, future of Heineken cup. This is major time in the rugby season so of course rugby will be shown more at this time.
Change the time you do this to August/September and the results will be very different and rugby will get very little coverage compared to Hurling/Football

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/03/2014 21:55:05    1554945

Fishermantom
County: Limerick
Posts: 454

1554930
In fairness to Ormond he is giving good arguments and oppositions to all the many exadurated and laughable ideas mentions on this forum already. "RTE are biased towards rugby"??? I really dont think this at all. if anyhting they dont cover it enough with the grassroots barely ever reaching the news. Whereas most GAA clubs championships get mentioned at the business end of their county and especially the all ireland clubs series.
Dunno how you could watch GAA all year round. gaelic basketball and hurling all year round would get tiresome.

this coming from the man who tried to say I used his county name to suggest he didnt support gaa only in the summer
then he turns around and basically admits he wont watch it all year round
priceless man!

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/03/2014 12:18:28    1555069

Man, that escalated quickly......!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 05/03/2014 12:20:57    1555072

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 6792

the only reason they cannot play more then once a week is because they are not athelticly managed properly
rugby ten to 15 years ago could easily do this
but since they have become gym monkeys rather then athletes the sport has slowed down significanntly
into a bodybuilders anaerobic style game more then an atheltic sport
any athelte worth his or her salt can perform more then once a week
particularly if they do that solely as their job.
no more causal viewers will watch the sport they prefer over a team that happens to have ireland on its jersey
so you think kerry people who love gaa will watch ireland v italy over dublin v meath because the team name is ireland?
thats a rubbish reason they had no interest in the womens match and went to the pub to drink
thats the sole reason and you know it!

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/03/2014 12:28:38    1555080