hill16no1man

I agree with you to a certain extent. But hurling isnt a game that should be played in february, But i also watched the match Dublin v Cork now that game was a cracker and vefiries my point that football played clean and open is as good as any other game out there. But then look at the Kerry Mayo game yesterday and its shows the ugly side of the game.So the point i was making is hurling played in summer is probably the best sports spectacle out there but football played in the right was gives it some competition.

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 03/03/2014 10:01:51    1553637

It doesn't matter who shows what, the important thing is that GAA games are availible on TV and have a profile. TG4 is I believe the best option for the games they do show. GAA league games at this time of year are argueably more open, but they rarely make good TV. Its unfair to really have a go at RTE over Rugby coverage, as irish teams are prominent in that sport and have a large following. Much harder to make a case for the English premiership/champions league, even if people want to watch it, maybe watching it on Setanta/TV3 makes better sense.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 03/03/2014 10:32:24    1553648

Gaelic Football is by far and away the most popular sport in Ireland. Its followers are more comfortable in their own skin and are happy to criticise knowing that the game is safe in terms of growth etc. The mass media is this country like to attack anything that is successful and with much jealousy they regularly go after Gaelic Football!
Also there is a lot of regional dialects if you will on how GF is played. Compare a club game in West Kerry versus a club game played on the Falls Road....different perspectives and these results in more debates etc.
If it was that horrible a game it would not be the most popular code on the Island!

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 03/03/2014 11:50:24    1553704

Hoover78
Gaelic football is the sporting equivalent of the hunger games.
Games are closer due to the fact it is easier to stop skilfull players as it is a slower paced game.

You mean skillful players cant just rely on the pace of the game to get away from their opponent? They actually have to display some skill to do it? That can be spun a lot of ways... Just depends on your bias. This is actually exactly what people are talking about. The above doesnt even make sense. 'The speed of the game makes it harder for skillful players' - if they are skillful why are they reliant on the speed of the game in the first place?


It is not as good as hurling but when played the right way it is watchable.

In your opinion. In mine is is a superior game. Just as example, if a footballer gave as many 50-50 passes as most hurlers he would be taken off in the first half. Im not saying that alone makes it better, Im just indicating that there is skill involved and sometimes more than is required in hurling. It is annoying to see people dismiss the sport as basically requiring no skill or intelligence in the world. There is far more going on as regards keeping possession, working scores, moving the ball up the field effectively etc.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 03/03/2014 12:15:45    1553737

28/02/2014 16:11:16
shaggykev
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...the reason hurling was so tight last year was actually because the top sides werent playing to that top level...

This says it all. I challenge ye to name one hurling game from the 2013 championship that compared with the finals of 2009 and 2010.

Everyone sees it as a great hurling championship because there were new teams at the top end. But that doesn't make it better. I was at the 1995 final and thoroughly enjoyed the Banner's victory, but the 1st final I was at 3 years before was still a higher quality of hurling, albeit with the most predictable pairing in history.

I suppose it could be said that it was a great championship for capturing the general public's imagination. But, and I would venture to include 2012 in this, there have been no games involving a consistently high standard of hurling from both competing teams.

This is an opinion, not fact!

an tseabhac (Kerry) - Posts: 441 - 03/03/2014 13:05:15    1553805

ormondbannerman
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RTEs approach to sport is because of an overall analysis of whole situation.
6 Nations games are much bigger than most games sunday game covers...
Irish games are part of one of the biggest, by tv coverage/interest, competitions in Europe.
Majority of games on Sunday game get 20-25+ minutes pre match coverage

that makes no sense
how are 6 nations much bigger and to who ? you ?
irish games are not bigger then the gaa games in viewers so how do you figure they are in europe even.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 13:30:28    1553841

Fishermantom
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Rugby is an international sport. Gaelic football is not......... that is why rte give rugby such coverage and i for one love it as rugby is a great sport. some of ye are way too stereotypical gaa heads.

what has that got to do with anything at all
international or not
rte market is IRELAND not france or italy
the same as gaa market is ireland
the point is more people are interested in football then rugby so why the over showing of rugby compared to football
answer ryle nugent

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 13:32:46    1553845

ormondbannerman
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The rugby RTE has been showing is primarily one of the biggest sporting events around, in the world. 6 Nations is covered in big way worldwide. And what would RTE be showing at this time of the year in hurling/football bearing in mind tg4/setanta have the rights to the league, club championships.
In the summer(May onwards) the ratio of hurling/gaelic to rugby is well more than 10:1

one of the biggest sporting events in the world come off it man
the six nations is way down the list
none of the sides are currently top 3 in the world in rugby never mind all sports
6 nations is covered in 6 countries end of

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 13:34:59    1553846

KeyserSoze
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It's all about viewership figures. That's why Setanta are showing all of Dublin's football home games live on the prime Saturday night spot and the other rights holder for the league, TG4, are showing all of Dublin's football away games live in the Sunday prime spot. Might explain too why neither are bothering showing the Dublin hurlers in their prime spots. And would people imagine that a league match between 2 counties, which would primarily be of interest only to people of those 2 counties, attract a higher viewership than a game involving an entire province, albeit in a different code. I am completely indifferent to Man United, Celtic and all the other British soccer clubs but I won't argue that they don't have significant followings which is why they attract high viewership though personally I'd prefer to watch reruns of Only Fools and Horses (or reruns of the Angelus, or Oireachtas Report, anything else) but I'll accept there are people who are different to me

tg4 arent showing all dublins matches live
dublin v westmeath was deferred
while they also showed dublin v galway in hurling and dublin v clare in hurling in the exact same way deferred
so your talking rubbish

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 13:36:29    1553847

Some good score being put up in the league so far. When football is played right its a great game. When its played the wrong way its not even in the top 10 sports to watch

And anyone who says football is a better game then hurling either never played hurling or was sh*te at it. Theres no comparison with the speed and skill involved in both games

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 03/03/2014 13:37:04    1553848

ritchie
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hill16no1man

I agree with you to a certain extent. But hurling isnt a game that should be played in february, But i also watched the match Dublin v Cork now that game was a cracker and vefiries my point that football played clean and open is as good as any other game out there. But then look at the Kerry Mayo game yesterday and its shows the ugly side of the game.So the point i was making is hurling played in summer is probably the best sports spectacle out there but football played in the right was gives it some competition.

you could say that about any sport that in winter its not as attractive as ground is heavy and players play in tough weather
thats a personal choice though
i watched all dublins games in football and hurling
and i enjoyed the spectacle of dublin v kerry in football semi final
as better match then dublin v cork in the hurling equivalent
both games were crackers but felt the football was more enjoyable
its all down to personal preferance

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 13:40:51    1553854

Brianmac78
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Some good score being put up in the league so far. When football is played right its a great game. When its played the wrong way its not even in the top 10 sports to watch

And anyone who says football is a better game then hurling either never played hurling or was sh*te at it. Theres no comparison with the speed and skill involved in both game

thats stupid comment brian
you could say the exact same for hurling
i was at the inter pro game on saturday
and i was never as bored in my life
hurling played bad or half paced is like watching paint dry
the same as any other sport
as for you other comment on football being better then hurling talking this or that
its all preferances on individuals
i for one thing football is better then hurling
i have played both
and i love both
but i would prefer football
as i like it more
thats my preferance

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 14:08:20    1553886

03/03/2014 13:30:28
hill16no1man
that makes no sense
how are 6 nations much bigger and to who ? you ?
irish games are not bigger then the gaa games in viewers so how do you figure they are in europe even.
Irish games are bigger than most GAA games and only all Ireland finals are generally bigger.
Irish games are huge and have part of one of the oldest sporting tournaments in the world.

03/03/2014 13:32:46
hill16no1man
what has that got to do with anything at all
international or not
rte market is IRELAND not france or italy
the same as gaa market is ireland
the point is more people are interested in football then rugby so why the over showing of rugby compared to football
answer ryle nugent No RTE show rugby because their is a market for it and rte clearly feel they have a bigger market than football. nugent is head of sport but he doesn't have a dictatorship and doesn't pick and choose what gets shown as per his preference of sport.

03/03/2014 13:34:59
hill16no1man
one of the biggest sporting events in the world come off it man
the six nations is way down the list
none of the sides are currently top 3 in the world in rugby never mind all sports
6 nations is covered in 6 countries end of
Yes the 6 Nations is. Take this list by average attendance and you will see how highly it rates
link
The face none of the sides are in the world top 3 is irrelevant. Attendance, tv figures, media coverage will always be very very high.
The 6 Nations is at start of year when not huge amount of competitions are concluding. it dominates media and receives considerable coverage across all media worldwide
http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/matchcentre/worldwide_broadcast_schedule.php

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/03/2014 14:48:45    1553924

hill16no1man
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are you seriously arguing that the league should take preference from the 6 nations?? man are you for real. people in every county in the country will watch the 6 nations. Not near that amount will watch a gaa match at this time of year. you have all the summer to support your dubs. leave the winter to us people who enjoy the ''foreign'' sports

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 03/03/2014 15:16:08    1553951

03/03/2014 15:16:08
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hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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...leave the winter to us people who enjoy the ''foreign'' sports

Why is 'foreign in quotation marks? They are foreign sports, it's not an insult! What else would one call them?!? 'Non-native' sports? It's the same thing!

an tseabhac (Kerry) - Posts: 441 - 03/03/2014 16:19:00    1554017

I have never and probably won't ever watch a full club/provincial rugby match, but the six nations is a very enjoyable competition to watch, its easy to see why rte would show it instead of a league match. The pity is the league could be a great competition, with bigger audience than the 6 nations if it was done seriously, but it's hard to see that happening unless the GAA were to go professional

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 03/03/2014 16:27:24    1554024

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
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you realy think ireland v italy in six nations is bigger then dublin v meath in leinster championship?
your off your rocker if you think so.
if that was the case then how is gaelic football the biggest sport in the country?
if rugby matches are bigger and more people are interested wouldnt that make it bigger?
who cares how old a tournament is!
the inter pros are a long time on the go to but dont mean its the bees knees
irish games are huge to rugby people but not to most others
unlike some people in rte seem to think the nation stops and holds its breath when ireland play rugby

your comparing the rabo to the national league and you somehow think rte make better viewing from it then
they would from shoing the national league haha
the national league is bigger competition then rabo league
look at the attendances
look at the teams put out
the rabo has complete second teams most the time
is shown no respect as often games are played he same evening as six nations games
nugent clearly decides whats what
he got rid of the premiership highlights to show more rugby
if the gaa gets huge viewing figures for rte in the championship
wouldnt it clearly be worth there while bidding for league games as its bigger then rabo for them
look he has taken over rte two on a saturday with rugby
he has two six antions matches and then a womens rugby game live
which has clearly no interest to the public
as they played ireland v england in mens and after it the womens was on
and the ground almost entirely emptied
which was shown on tv

the fact is clearly relevant as you say its one of biggest comeptitions in world sport yet none of the teams
are among the best in the world in the sport
makes a mockery of that remark
it dominates media you dont have to remind me
as its ridiculous for a 4th in the lsit of top sports in this country
main reason the so called irish national media is based in yes you guessed rugby d4 area

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 16:48:05    1554046

Fishermantom
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hill16no1man
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are you seriously arguing that the league should take preference from the 6 nations?? man are you for real. people in every county in the country will watch the 6 nations. Not near that amount will watch a gaa match at this time of year. you have all the summer to support your dubs. leave the winter to us people who enjoy the ''foreign'' sports

no i never said the league should take preferance to the six nations.
i cannot see why they cannot cover both.
i was comparing the league to the rabo
there is a far higher interest in the league in football and hurling then the rabo
so from a business point surely rte be better showing it would you not agree?
reason why they dont is nugent.
you need to get outside limerick city
as people in limerick county wouldnt even watch rugby never mind northside of dublin where i am from it gets no support
the gaa runs all year i support dubs from january to september
and in between play club football and hurling and support club championship from september to december
so you will find winter has irish sport too
maybe in limerick ye only go to gaa after munster get knocked out of heineken cup

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 16:53:28    1554053

My earlier post was a bit over the top and probably unfair

I will say having played both I don't see any comparison in which is better. I also know most people prefer hurling and more who prefer to watch it even if they play football and not hurling.

As I said football when played well is a great sport, hurling when its played well is the greatest sport on the planet

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 03/03/2014 17:23:52    1554086

brianmac
thats your opinion
but in terms of skill i never understand how anybody can draw comparisons
to suggest a sport is more skillfull then another
to score a point or goal you need hand to foot cordnation in football
to score a point or goal in hurling you need hand to stick cordination
how do you define one more skillfull as both are neccessary skills for each game but cannot be replicated in the other
how do you define the handpass being more skillfull in hurling then football like
they both have differant skill sets like any sports
if anything from playing both sports since a kid
I would suggest its harder to score in football
and you need to be fitter to play football
but I dont think that deems it more skillfull just like I dont think anything deems hurling more skillfull
as its impossible to compare a skill

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/03/2014 17:46:48    1554109