This is turning into a football v hurling forum again. fact is there are far more soley football clubs which spread the gospel of their sport. whereas hurling is not as popular. But where it is popular the people hold onto it as they know it is a privilege to be able to play it. I can go anywhere in the world and play a game of gaelic. All i need is a ball. Hurling is very much different. Very few clubs play it outside of a few counties and therefor the pundits want to protect it and attempt to lure in the people on the fence who may not have a sport. Football as the most played sport have a confidence in their sports spreading regardless of what they say and are therefore more intensive with their analysis as they wont mind whose feelings they hurt.

If you hurt a hurling mans feelings chances are your clubs will be looking for a friendly agaisnt them in the near future and your negative sentiments will be rememebered
Also there are way more "football snobs" than "hurling snobs" as there are more football people.
If you have never played hurling you shouldnt down it.

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 28/02/2014 21:04:26    1552610

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Yew Tree, football is a better game
end of story
but "hurling people" get mighty ****** off when anyone dares say it1




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TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 28/02/2014 21:06:34    1552614

Hurling people think that hurlers are better at hurling than footballers are at football - IMHO. And they want extra credit for hurlers based on that opinion

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 698 - 28/02/2014 21:15:27    1552619

Its gas these debates, all you have to do is look at the county of the poster in question and chances are you will know what their take on the matter is as regards which is a better sport.
Bar Dublin of course where we are 50/50 ;0

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 28/02/2014 21:33:36    1552631

Both class sports

Both with high skill levels

Both compliment each other

Unfortunately it's the attitude of a certain % that causes the trouble

GAA pundits especially in football seem drawn to the negative

This is quite a common attitude within our culture

Because football is the bigger and more talked about sport

The negative coverage of football finds itself across the paper / news far more often

Negativity sells well in Ireland... A negative themed thread on this site draws a lot more attention compared to a positive one

Negativity gets noticed, it attracts a crowd...

For the life of me I don't understand why people can't appreciate the two sports

You get so much more out of the GAA... It's twice the fun

It's Lennon/McCartney

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 28/02/2014 21:55:22    1552639

Dublin should have got team of the year.They beat everybody......they deserved to be called team of the year.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 01/03/2014 08:59:27    1552648

Good post jimbo.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 01/03/2014 09:11:28    1552649

You could argue that for sure, but Dublin footballers wont care that much.

I think that the public likes a story involving underdogs, to identify with. Clare were an inch from going out of the all ireland last year against wexford, and then won it in extra time. Then won the all ireland. That is extra ordinary. I think they deserve some recognition for this, and couple this with the final and replayed final v cork and you have the makings of legend.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3846 - 01/03/2014 10:33:59    1552666

I expect football to be greatly improved this year, with the black card rule. there has been a lot of negativity around the game in the last decades with the way it has gone, and the carding rule will allow the game to be played properly. it will come down to consistency with the refereeing on this though. I think that hurling can teach football so much in they involve much less negative tactics. Im sure it has its moments, but all you have to do is compare the 2 finals last year, the only negative issue with the hurling was the time it took their keeper to take a free.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3846 - 01/03/2014 10:44:23    1552668

I think everyone agrees that last year was a great year for hurling and the gaa. Then when the dust has settled a football snob decides to start another thread on how great football is just in case we might have forgotten.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 01/03/2014 10:49:12    1552673

Good season? There was one watchable game all year. Football's really been taken to a new low the past 2 seasons.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 01/03/2014 10:53:29    1552675

No.

The amount of criticism Gaelic football gets is ridiculous both from people who have been involved in the game (who really should no better) and people outside of it.

Last year was an excellent year for Gaelic Football.IF you take the major events of the Gaelic football year they are, The Club Final,The u-21 Final,The NFL Final,The 4 provincial Finals and the quarter finals on wards in the championship.The club final was a great game the u-21 final was a really enjoyable match.the NFL final was great game.3 of the 4 provincial finals were excellent matches, the 4th one had a fairy tale story attached to it.And the knockout stages of the championship were good with the Dublin Kerry match being the best game I have ever seen.The qualifiers as usual provided some excellent matches on top of all this.

However is this being reflected by the media coverage the game gets no.The media continue to focus on the negative and it seems impossible for them to give a fair assessment of the game, instead of pundits analysing matches they go on long bouts of whinging about how a team plays regardless of whether it is effective or not.


I really wonder why the people in RTE and the papers actually tolerate this negativity towards the game you are far more likely to get viewers and readers if analysis is somewhat positive.I no longer read any GAA news and I almost never watch the pre match analysis any more and if a casual fan tuned in their analysis would have turned them off from watching most matches.Most sports try and use the pre match buildup to entice people to watch a match RTE seem to see the pre match build up to football as the opposite.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 01/03/2014 11:03:05    1552677

They are two great sports, but if it wasn't for football's success, hurling would be in a very unhealthy state. Football is the most popular and successful of the two codes. Football's superior attendances generate the income that funds development of hurling. Yet hurling people are constantly criticising football therefore biting off the hand that feeds them. Problems exist in both codes yet overall the positives massively outweigh the negatives. Critics of football should ask the question, Who won the Connacht hurling championship last year? and When last did an Ulster team win Liam McCarthy?

Cabhfuilmocroi (Kildare) - Posts: 7 - 01/03/2014 11:46:40    1552684

Thing is football doesn't require praise, football fans are more content than hurling supporters in general I feel, but anyway I love both sports and can't see the sense in one downing the other, just enjoy them.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/03/2014 12:24:21    1552696

I suppose Hurling and football are just two very different sports.

Hurling played at its best would out shadow any sport in the world to be fair and not just football. I think since football has got so negative. The pulling and dragging in the last few year has made the game ugly. Last years all ireland was a great game till the last ten mins then it just got ugly. And if Football wants to compete with hurling as a spectacle then it has to eliminate that and fashions its self as a spectacle

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 01/03/2014 12:24:58    1552697

I hugely enjoyed seeing Dublin winning the football again. And the semi final against Kerry was a brilliant spectacle no doubt. However, overall the hurling championship produced much better games. There were ten or more hurling matches last year that you would watch over and over. Were there even four football that would fit that?

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 01/03/2014 13:08:48    1552707

uibhfhaili1986



great post!
I feel the main reason rte adopts this attitude is because its head of sport is ryle nugent.
he is the rugby commentator for rte.
just look at the differance in the six nations pre match build up compared to a sunday game build up.
they come on the tv sometimes over an hour before ireland play
where as you get 15 mins sometimes for sunday game warm up.
its clear what his intentions are.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/03/2014 13:10:17    1552709

ritchie

you seem to think the same things dont happen in hurling?
take the first two weekends of the league gone by
from dublin v galway and clare v kk
to dublin v clare and kk v tipp
there was alot more incidents in them games that if the black card rule was in hurling would have been issued
compared to a spread of football matches i seen over the opening two weeks in its league.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/03/2014 13:13:31    1552711

Have played both and love both, but they are two different games requiring different skill sets and abilities. Why can people not just appreciate them for their differences instead of trying to outdo the other code by saying one is better than the other. Some people would be lost on a Football field but would shine in Hurling and vice-versa. You could probably argue good reasons as to which is best til the cows come home and still be arguing when they go back out to graze. Still, there does seem to be an attitude throughout Ireland that would suggest some 'hurling people' have a bit more of a chip on their shoulder than their footballng counterparts.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/03/2014 13:17:10    1552713

To answer the op's question, no it doesn't, it gets far far too much criticism for a game that is enjoyed by hundreds of thousands of people and is the most popular sport in a country which has a huge range of serious sports to choose from. From the amount of people who choose to play Gaelic ahead of soccer, right, hurling, etc., it's clear that it must be doing something right!

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 01/03/2014 14:02:14    1552733