Great Hurling year it was an all. I was shouting for Clare and was delighted to see them win but did the media and public go overboard and ignore the great football year we had last year? I mean Clare got team of the year but surly Dublin should have got that, what with winning the league, leinster and All Ireland.

We also had some great football games throughout the year but once we get a great hurling game we hear the same aul cheer leading. I love Hurling don't get we wrong but I think football unfairly can get labeled the poor relation of Hurling. The football is more competitive year in year out than hurling. Maybe we will get a few good hurling years for a change but football has been providing more entertainment year in year out and is harder to win with more teams at an equal level.

Any view on this?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11547 - 28/02/2014 15:10:57    1552403

Yew Tree, football is a better game
end of story
but "hurling people" get mighty ****** off when anyone dares say it1

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/02/2014 15:18:36    1552411

Hard to argue with any of that. You are 100% correct.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 28/02/2014 15:24:28    1552415

Suppose it's just easier to knock football because there's more football pundits and it's easier to knock than to praise.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 28/02/2014 15:29:59    1552417

Dublin - The saviours of gaelic football, Took it out of the depression Donegal put it in :o)

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 28/02/2014 15:44:34    1552425

This shouldn't be made into a football v hurling debate. In my opinion the bad press that football seems to generate and the praise that hurling generates are unrelated.

Hurling analysis is very positive whereas football seems to be the opposite.

Football pundits/managers/supporters need to stop the negativity imo as it's not justified. Football deserves a lot more praise then it has been getting.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 28/02/2014 15:48:30    1552429

MesAmis, the problem is that "hurling people" seem incapable of talking about "their game" without taking the opportunity to have a go at football in the process.
"its that kinda ***** that sickens my hole" as a famous man once said and turns me off hurling

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/02/2014 15:50:42    1552431

Hurling fans are like Rugby League fans looking on at their big brother Rugby Union thinking its somehow such a lofty superior product and lives for comparison. Whilst Rugby Union fans and Gaelic football fans don't give a damn about the reputaion of either and live in a world where their codes are more watched, played and attended

Hurling is a fine game and the last few All Irelands have been top class but there are plenty of one sided games and the reason hurling was so tight last year was actually because the top sides werent playing to that top level these uses to attain when they blew sides out of the water. Offaly even gave Kilkenny a good game last year when normally its a pure dead rubber

gaelic football has produced some absolute wonderful games these last few years and for all the negativity mostly from within, its still a top quality game and what would have fans licking their lips now more if they could imagine a meeting in September?

Kilkenny v Tipp back in a hurling final or Donegal v Dublin battling to the death?
I know which game would be harder to get tickets for and get the bigger TV audience

shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 317 - 28/02/2014 16:11:16    1552449

waynoI
County: Dublin
Posts: 8565

1552425
Dublin - The saviours of gaelic football, Took it out of the depression Donegal put it in :o)

WaynoI my old friend,

Give us half a chance & we'll have ye crying into your coddle again this year!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 28/02/2014 16:12:10    1552450

Liamo

I'm coming at this from pretty much a dual situation. I'm primarily a Hurler but I do love football too.

For every "hurling snob" there's a "football man" who puts down hurling at every opportunity. Dublin was very bad for this for years in my experience.

If you let something as inconsequential as the above put you off hurling then it's a pity and your own loss. I'd say the same to someone who said that some football people's attitude to hurling put them off football.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 28/02/2014 16:17:41    1552458

waynoI
County: Dublin
Posts: 8565

1552425 Dublin - The saviours of gaelic football, Took it out of the depression Donegal put it in :o)

Yea right. Dream on.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 28/02/2014 16:18:08    1552459

its kind of double edged
you could look at it this way
that hurling doesnt usually be that competitive so when it gets a year like last year it makes headlines
so in a roundabout way it actually complements football as it shows that they expect football to be that competitve year in year out
also on the analysts point
it needs to be changed from both codes
football guys defo need to heap less negativity towards the game
they are all ex players and it appears just cannot move on from their playing days
and use this outlet to try hang on to when they were playing
where as the hurling guys defo need to take off the holier then thou goggles
they seem to fear making any honest comment on dangerous play in the game
and any time we see a close scoreline in a match they hype it up to be a cracker
regardless of what level the match was played at as it could sometimes be just a poor quality match
that finished close on the scoreboard

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/02/2014 16:37:26    1552468

Football gets far too much bad press. Some of it is their own doing though, with brolly etc out to make headlines. Hurling on the other hand probably isnt critical enough of itself, where basically nothing is wrong with hurling ever according to many pundits. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 28/02/2014 16:42:01    1552474

Football can be compared other field games, favourably or unfavourably depending on one's disposition.

Hurling can't.

KeyserSoze (Cork) - Posts: 363 - 28/02/2014 16:42:44    1552475

WaynoI my old friend,

Give us half a chance & we'll have ye crying into your coddle again this year!!


_________

You took that bad ;)

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 28/02/2014 17:04:03    1552487

Would definitely agree that there is far too much in-house criticism of football. There's far too much of a sense of entitlement to put the boot in out there especially from the old guard. On the other hand Hurling people in general are ridiculously protective of their existing sport where every football person has an opinion on how they want to change it. Both are extremes and both need to move more towards a reasonable middle ground.

As for the Clare thing, I think the respective finals made a big difference. Mayo kind of fell off a bit tamely whereas the the two hurling finals were classics. If the Dublin-Kerry game had of been the final then everyone would probably be raving about the footballing year. Also the provincial finals were brilliant in Hurling but Ulster aside you could easily forget the other three.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 28/02/2014 17:10:54    1552490

Hurling people love hurling, it's that simple - be they journalists, pundits , managers...etc they really enjoy watching and discussing the game. To watch the football analysis or read articles you would genuinely think the analysts dislike the sport of football and are being forced to watched it, they don't seem to take any joy or pleasure from it. Just watching the almost child-like happiness of Cyril Farrell after a great match is fantastic, he truly loves what he is doing. Football people only seem to criticise the sport they apparently like!

Plus hurling is a far better game and our national sport so its easy to be a little smug ;)

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 28/02/2014 17:36:12    1552502

what annoyes me about hurling people is when they ever talk about hurling promotion its always within context of their own county hurling promotion does not extend to longford, tyrone or fermanagh its cork people talk about it being promotoed in cork wexford in wexford etc hurling people in the 10 or so top counties do not give a toss about game in lesser counties like carlow

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2967 - 28/02/2014 17:44:12    1552504

I can only recall one game in last year football championship that will be remembered in time and that was Dublin v Kerry semi. Hurling had an epic final and replay, the Dublin V Cork semi and Tipp V Kilkenny were also amazing games. Sure the football had many standout moments but the hurling also had many other moments outside of the ones I mentioned, too many to mention. I will be the first to acknowledge that prior to 2013 and with the exception of a few great finals between tipp and kk the hurling championship has played second fiddle to football.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 28/02/2014 19:29:44    1552544

Hurling is a better game than football as the requirements in terms of skill are higher. But then again you could argue Ice Hockey is better than Hurling as the skill set is probably higher. But that does not make it more enjoyable as personal taste and how competitive the game is controls that variable. IMO football is an excellent game that has issues regarding how it is analysed. The doom and gloom scenario is overstated and in the main the football championship is highly competitive and excellent value for money.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 28/02/2014 20:02:57    1552561