Heard only today that a new rule was voted in at congress stating that juveniles cannot play minor for their counties. While I can see the logic in that, in my own county we had several U16s as part of our minor squad last year.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4105 - 24/02/2014 12:16:56    1550601

That's a minor hurling squad I'm referring to, BTW.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4105 - 24/02/2014 12:22:09    1550605

Think Tipperary footballers had a good few u16 when they won the all Ireland

xxx (Mayo) - Posts: 1275 - 24/02/2014 12:27:54    1550609

The motion was passed alright. Basically means that a player can only play 2 years at minor grade for county. Club not affected. Will hit smaller counties much harder as they often would have a good few U16s on a minor panel and having to repalce them with inferior albeit older players wont help them become competitive. An ill thought out motion if ever there was one. Wont effect the bigger population counties much as most of their players will already be in U18 or U17 bracket.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 24/02/2014 15:45:16    1550711

It was a Tipperary motion another instance of the bigger hurling counties blackguarding the smaller counties. Well done lads

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 24/02/2014 16:31:25    1550741

Ironically,the motion was proposed by Moyle Rovers (a Tipp football club) who had two U-16's playing minor for Tipp last year,Stephen Quirke & Danny Owens.

JimmyCahill (Tipperary) - Posts: 11 - 24/02/2014 16:34:18    1550745

At least they didn't put minor down a year to u-17. Now that would of been a true disaster.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 24/02/2014 16:34:31    1550746

Real pity , usually when a lad makes a minor team u16 you kno he is ammincenly talented and earmarked for the future, When you look from my hurling experience the Joe Cannings, Noel Mc Grath all played minor at 16 and stood out,

73southman (Limerick) - Posts: 394 - 24/02/2014 16:56:52    1550766

Maybe it is no coincidence that Moyle Rovers proposed this if they had two U-16s who played county minor last year, as they would have seen the problems it can bring? I imagine the rule was brought in to protect our best young players rather than to increase the chance of stronger counties to win an all-ireland as some seem to be suggesting. Joe Canning played in 3 finals I think, winning 2, but wasnt there someone who won 3? Wont happen again now anyway due to this rule.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 24/02/2014 17:08:07    1550772

I'm disappointed this motion was passed. Counties with small picks like ourselves already struggle to get a decent 30 man panel together.for example Shane Mannion our goalkeeper is about to have his 3rd year at minor level. its a shame the GAA feel the need to fix something that isn't broke.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4406 - 24/02/2014 17:14:11    1550774

Smaller counties will be affected something horrible.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13659 - 24/02/2014 17:37:31    1550785

What if there is a young lad who is under 15 this year and good enough for the county minor panel. This new rule means that he can play this year but wont be able to play next year. I wonder is there anyone like this on a county minor panel this year.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 24/02/2014 17:48:58    1550794

It won't really affect our footballers but are hurlers will be badly affected.. Last year we had an u-15 who played minor hurlin last year, he will be bady missed this year along with a few more u-16s

jgundogan (Roscommon) - Posts: 8 - 24/02/2014 17:50:28    1550796

This rule is apparently coming in in 4 weeks time so the affects are pretty much immediate.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4105 - 24/02/2014 18:11:58    1550813

Jgundogan,

Can I ask you what the reaction is in Roscommon to being beaten by Monaghan's hurlers yesterday?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4105 - 24/02/2014 18:14:57    1550815

Personally am for this motion , nothing to do with being a Dub and numbers etc pure and simple its player welfare , my own son is 16 in August playing u16 this year , plays both codes , hes on both school teams also , he has been asked this year to play minor for club of which Ive said no ,
Stats in club show a large amount of lads carrying injuries over from last year that played above their age group , I have no doubt whatsoever its the amount of games being put on talented lads , have you ever seen a normal sized 18 year old stand beside a 16 year old its freaky , I say look after the lads give them a chance to have a prolonged time in the game .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 24/02/2014 19:20:39    1550854

24/02/2014 16:31:25
disillusiondfan
It was a Tipperary motion another instance of the bigger hurling counties blackguarding the smaller counties. Well done ladsTipp have always had plenty of under 16s on minor teams and they know the potential downsides/risks etc of 16s playing minor. this idea improves player welfare which can only be seen as good
24/02/2014 17:48:58
jpcampion
What if there is a young lad who is under 15 this year and good enough for the county minor panel. This new rule means that he can play this year but wont be able to play next year. I wonder is there anyone like this on a county minor panel this year. If they're part of a county minor squad as an under15/16 it increases chances of burnout as they'll be playing serious amount of games even more so if they play hurling and football at under 16 and minor. this rule is a good thing

24/02/2014 17:50:28
jgundogan
It won't really affect our footballers but are hurlers will be badly affected.. Last year we had an u-15 who played minor hurlin last year, he will be bady missed this year along with a few more u-16s More players will develop and improve with this ruling. This improves things in hurling and football
24/02/2014 18:11:58
keeper7
This rule is apparently coming in in 4 weeks time so the affects are pretty much immediate. good to see.

24/02/2014 18:14:57
keeper7
Jgundogan, Can I ask you what the reaction is in Roscommon to being beaten by Monaghan's hurlers yesterday? Take it to other thread where that topic is relevant....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 24/02/2014 19:36:57    1550862

Player welfare my eye. Where is all this nonsense going to stop. Weaker counties badly need U 16s n stronger counties adopt a holier than though approach. Another case of shafting weaker counties.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 24/02/2014 19:49:20    1550876

well weaker counties will just have to try harder then, wont they . stop moaning. there will always be stronger and weaker counties. every county cant be strong. the rule is correct. you cant have a young lad playing for his school, his club and under 6, his club at minor, his county and under 16 and his county at minor, possibly at both codes. along with maybe other sports too. county managers are pushing young amateurs too hard nowadays. it will all come to a head soon and there will be a strike. i wouldnt blame county players for saying "enough is enough" "pay us if you want us to become professional".

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5524 - 24/02/2014 20:43:02    1550919

I'm inclined to think that playing junior football or hurling is far more dangerous to 16 year-olds than playing at minor level, and that is a pretty widespread occurance. Whatever happened to the maxim, "if you're good enough, you're old enough?"

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 24/02/2014 20:57:44    1550928