i have just read 7 pages of muck none of ye know if the pair were underage
or the right age and the ballysagart managers referee comments were a disgrace and
an insult to wicklow hurling

psychomick (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 28/02/2014 19:41:13    1552551

No chip bumpernut. Was just sticking up for my fellow countymen as what was being said about them by some people was a disgrace. A clubs name shoulldnt be blackened by a few biased views for just dexcercising their right to appeal.

deisebhoy (Waterford) - Posts: 416 - 28/02/2014 21:18:13    1552621

Frankbhoy that is wise. Hopefully everyone else will follow suit

deisebhoy (Waterford) - Posts: 416 - 28/02/2014 21:21:34    1552622

Good for you squareball. If only you were in charge of the cccc this whole thing would have been put to bed long ago

deisebhoy (Waterford) - Posts: 416 - 28/02/2014 21:24:19    1552626

Frankbhoy that is wise. Hopefully everyone else will follow suit

deisebhoy (Waterford) - Posts: 416 - 28/02/2014 21:24:27    1552627

Can someone please clarify for me if the two 16 year olds were clearly named in the starting line ups before the first final and replayed final? Can someone also clarify why ballysaggert, at no time PRIOR to these matches, objected to these players, instead waiting until after they lost the replay? This whole "it came to their attention after the replay" malarkey doesn't wash, quite frankly.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1256 - 01/03/2014 08:39:50    1552643

Ballydalane if something as trivial as that dosent wash with you I assume that a team fielding 2 illegal players because 'they automatically thought it was a new competition' dosent either?. I dont see the relevance either way other than you are yet another poster trying to insinuate that it somehow was ballysaggarts own fault if creggan broke the rules.

deisebhoy (Waterford) - Posts: 416 - 01/03/2014 12:24:19    1552695

What rule exactly was broken again? As in what official rule?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/03/2014 13:20:09    1552715

That players u16 are prohibited from playing in an adult competition. That it what is in dispute

deisebhoy (Waterford) - Posts: 416 - 01/03/2014 13:50:52    1552726

From what I can see there seems to be a grey area in the rule book. If that is the case there is no rule to be broken which would make kickhams the winner and croke park will then have to look at setting out clear rules for next years compation. Dose anyone know when a ruling is going to b made by the CCCC.

Antrimgirl (Antrim) - Posts: 3 - 01/03/2014 15:00:00    1552755

Exactly what the previous poster said I think this is a grey area over the rules as to what year these players fall into. But ballysaggart demanding a replay? The match would descend into chaos of fighting would anyone want that? I certainly don't think creggan would play again if ballysaggart want it that bad they can it

Stardust (Antrim) - Posts: 1 - 01/03/2014 18:56:17    1552823

Am all for promotion of hurling so was thrilled that Creggan won this comp. However if a rule has been broken then it has to be addressed. It is unfair to slate ballysaggart for effectively doing the GAA a job. It is unfair that it falls to the defeated team to object. The GAA should implement rules without any damage to ballysaggarts reputation. It doesn't matter if Creggan used kids or OAPs rules need to be adhered to.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 01/03/2014 19:36:16    1552834

Ballysaggart have not indicated if they would want a replay or not or even if they would accept the cup as champions (I doubt they would). They merely lodged an appeal to seek clarification of the rules as they only had a 3 day window in which to do so after the game. They were only informed of the potential issue the day after so had to think quick and this was the only option open to them. Knowing that they were going to be ridiculed for it I think they deserve crerit as it wasnt an easy call to make

deisebhoy (Waterford) - Posts: 416 - 01/03/2014 21:44:21    1552976

First the ref then a bunch of footballers playing hurling then two sixteen year olds, absolutely shameful and embarrassing but thankfully now also completely wrong, well done Creggan

thetallgypsy (Antrim) - Posts: 97 - 06/03/2014 19:08:23    1555845

;)

frankbhoy77 (Antrim) - Posts: 1300 - 06/03/2014 20:42:36    1555921

Glad Creggan hold on to their well deserved All Ireland and best of luck to them.... especially the two 16 year olds who were caught up up in the middle of this saga.

kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 07/03/2014 09:29:21    1556002

deisebhoy
you have went very quiet for someone who had a lot to say on the matter.

Ballysaggart
I hope now u can recover form this. A good start would be to say sorry for the hurt you have caused. I am sure many of your players and supporters did not support you in taking this to the CCCC. Maybe you should say sorry to them and hope that this dose not bring any more shame on your club.

UP KICKHAMS

Antrimgirl (Antrim) - Posts: 3 - 07/03/2014 09:29:34    1556003

deisebhoy
you have went very quiet for someone who had a lot to say on the matter.

Ballysaggart
I hope now u can recover form this. A good start would be to say sorry for the hurt you have caused. I am sure many of your players and supporters did not support you in taking this to the CCCC. Maybe you should say sorry to them and hope that this dose not bring any more shame on your club.

UP KICKHAMS

Antrimgirl (Antrim) - Posts: 3 - 07/03/2014 09:29:45    1556004

Easy on Antrimgirl - from what I see is that this sorry mess has been created by lack of clear guidance, the 3 day window to appeal and the subsequent delay from Croke Park in putting the episode to bed.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 07/03/2014 09:38:22    1556009

I don't think Ballysaggart have to apologise to anyone especially their supporters. Ballysaggart as far as I can see were only looking for clarification on the rule. Yet the CCCC could not clarify the rule and have said that Creggan Kickhams acted in good faith. So while the U16 rule applies for the rest of the GAA community and because the CCCC agree that acting in good faith and not abiding by GAA rules is ok to win an All Ireland, the area remains a grey area for any team to interpet as they wish .

Deisefairplay (Waterford) - Posts: 2 - 07/03/2014 09:57:10    1556016