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REebelcork: The can't win with the extra man?!?!?!? Did you watch any hurling last year? Trust me, Cork have a lot more hurlers than Limerick. They played dreadful yesterday for 55 mins but it was 15 mins less than Limerick. Ye won't be able to rely on the ref and other teams poor tactics come summer.

Rely on the ref? What are you on about. Cork shot themselves in the foot by not kicking on when so far in front and shooting so many wides in the second half. Also, the ref flashed us a straight red handy enough for a man who didn't even see a supposed incident. Rely on him indeed.

Unlimited_LK (Limerick) - Posts: 128 - 16/02/2014 15:37:19    1546865

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LohansRedHelmet

Based on results you are absolutely right. I am hopeful rather than confident. We have a young panel that have been relatively successful at under age and I believe they are being led by the right man. I think it's time for us to come of age. realistically I'd say we are slight favorites for 3rd place but I hope we can take a big scalp with one big 70 minutes through this league. This in always possibly in sport and without this ambition we'd be at nothing.

What a weekend this has been. Some real shock results in my opinion. Namely Laois !! Well done to all victors this weekend.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3698 - 16/02/2014 15:44:10    1546872

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That was not a prediction it was a fact. 2/4 of the possible two teams that could of got in to the final were from Cork, so yes it was 'looking likely'. As i suspected you don't know what the word means. Don't even start playing the 14 man excuse, A) he wasn't even the one who spotted it (umpire did) and B) Limerick should have been down to 13 when they tried to half Aidan Walsh. Plenty of Limerick people were also saying he was giving handy frees (since you value the opinion of other supporters so much). Fact is yesterday Cork played dreadfully bad but Limerick were worse. You don't score 17 points with one man in the forward line without a little help.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 16/02/2014 18:17:31    1546943

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Rebel limerick also had 2/4 teams in the semis but lk ppl said they hoped for an all lk final. You said an all cork one was likely. That is the difference and the reason why u r becoming so "popular" on here ha ha. You don't throw away a lead and numerical advantage unless you are out thought and outfought. look for faults in your own camp god knows there are plenty of them there. I watched the game again this evening on TG4 and the softest free was given against S Walsh on the 45 yard line in second half. If cork backs are not able to mark 4 forwards without fouling them then it is lame in the extreme to blame the ref. Again I ask u do you think the ref should have helped the cork backs out. Are the rules to apply to everyone bar Cork?

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 16/02/2014 18:49:33    1546954

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Why are you comparing my 'prediction' to Limerick people's? Some sort of difference between what i said and what others said doesn't make it any more of a 'prediction' .It was likely, i said nothing wrong and then your man said it some how made a 'clown' of me? To be honest i do think the rules should be the same for Cork, but they're not as we saw last night with the extra 20 seconds,13 extra frees and numerous times last year.Limerick were dead lucky last night and got plenty of help from Cork and the ref to get a result.Nice to see you're attacking my popularity, it isn't the first time you've gone attacking a poster rather than their argument.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 16/02/2014 19:30:19    1546994

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Dubs gonna struggle this year on today's evidence.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13808 - 16/02/2014 19:34:41    1546998

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I thought I made it clear but I will spell it out. U arrogantly said a cork final was likely whereas lk ppl hoped for one. U have only a pro cork opinion and I'm not the only poster telling u this. Ur posts are a cork version of thurles blues. Lk were dead lucky. Lucky that cork were so poor. If lk drew with 14 men at home we would be asking questions of ourselves. You blame the ref. says it all for me. The reason lk got 13 frees more is because cork couldn't mark 4 forwards without fouling them. If u get a recording of the game please indicate frees that shouldn't have been. I'm calling ur bluff now deliver or talk rubbish to someone else. If u want an argument based on facts ill give it to u.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 16/02/2014 19:43:57    1547009

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Why don't i call your bluff (once i see a recording i'll be happy to point them out)?
Okay first fact- Despite playing against a total of 2 forwards for most of the game Cork conceded 13 frees more, it is not possible to concede that many more frees fairly when Limerick were so defensive.
Second- 20 extra seconds were played,why?
Third- Mcnamara wasn't sent off for his hit on Walsh.
Defend those 'fair' Decisions.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 16/02/2014 19:57:03    1547029

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As regards the extra time this is entirely 'at the discretion of the referee and it is always 'at least two minutes, or whatever, extra time'. James Owens acted with profound wisdom and fairness

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4500 - 16/02/2014 20:10:36    1547043

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Frees conceded were in my view down to the cork defences total inability to deal with players running from deep. If u look at last free the cork back ran moronic like head first with sole intention of barding into player. havent seen anything so pointless in long time. This the exact same prob they had in last years all Ireland final. As for 20 seconds the RULES state that extra time displayed is the minimum and can be extended at refs discretion. 20 secs run over would be normal enough. V v few games end dead on time. V few indeed.
As for macs challenge it was a 50 50 call and he could well have gone. Joe canning got away with worse last sat n Henry shefflin got sent off for less. If u have played the game u will know how hard it is to get a shoulder dead on shoulder to shoulder. As a hurling fan of old I like the manliness of it. Shane o neill did far worse on Honan last sep n u weren't complaining then were ya. Now that my bluff called n answered.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 16/02/2014 20:28:52    1547061

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RebelCork on those three points. Yes Limerick got a lot more frees than ye but I can't think of one instance where ye didn't get a free when ye should have. Second point, I have no idea why the extra 20 seconds was played so I can see why you are unhappy about that. I'd be the same if it was the other way round. Thirdly, Wayne Mc is built like a tank so any collision between him and another player looks worse than it actually is. No way did he deserve a red. He was just way too strong for Walsh. Can't blame him for that.

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 16/02/2014 20:31:49    1547065

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Calm down lads, its week 1 of the league in February. Teams are at different stages of development, some have done heavy training, some are blooding youth (my own county included), for some the league is very important, for others it is not. There will be as many swings and twists in this as the road to Ballindaggin (which is very bendy indeed).
MesAmis, dont write off the Dubs after 1 game.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/02/2014 20:39:07    1547070

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Spot on Pinkie. Lads are getting all worked up over what is the equivalent of a pre season tournament in soccer

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 16/02/2014 20:44:03    1547075

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Was poor show Mes Amis. Galway were well up for this and look well ahead of Dublin in hurling training whatever about lifting televisions over their heads or swimming through bogs or whatever he has them at. Still, we got similar tanking from Tipp in league last year and you know what happened after that.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 16/02/2014 21:01:55    1547083

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Losing at home to a 14 man Wexford team that totally dominated the second half tells you everything about where Antrim hurling is at.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 16/02/2014 21:02:53    1547086

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You're the eternal optimist, Ulsterman. Were you even at the match in Ballycastle?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 16/02/2014 21:23:27    1547100

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I am surprised by Galways win not because they won but because of how much they scored. Plus they were missing the Portumna lads and others. I hope it continues.

WoodlawnPat (Galway) - Posts: 288 - 16/02/2014 21:29:33    1547105

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anybody reading anything into todays results is a fool.today is the first ball hit in anger in months,start judging at the end of the april when we will know more about where things are at.but remember last year,2 teams in a relegation play off competed in the all-ireland....

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/02/2014 21:57:07    1547122

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Tis early days yet and lads are not as clued in , pitches are in an awful state and managers trying out new fellas.

Dunno how many times that sliothar got caught in the mud yesterday in Ennis.

The only team who went for broke were Waterford. Strong starting 15 close to their championship team and they nearly pulled off a shock victory. They wont be any push overs in the league if they keep putting out their championship team.

Oh and fair play to Laois really thrown open Div 1B however I do fear for them against Cork & Limerick. They should beat Antrim but the Wexford game is one which could decide their fate. I expect Offaly to bounce back with a shock win of their own so 4th place is probably between Laois & Offaly to get into the quarter finals.

May the resurgence continue in hurling and maybe this year another county will be un-earthed as we had in 2013.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 17/02/2014 08:56:22    1547133

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The aim for my own county is survival in the league. Our result yesterday is a huge step to achieving this. All this talk about calming down because it is only the first round of the league is not applicable to Clare as that result was massive. It is also not applicable for Limerick as getting a draw yesterday could be the result that gets them finally out of division 1b in the league.

Fair play to Galway too. Monster result. Galway looked poor all last season not just the championship so at least they have started well this year. Dublin on the other hand....could second season syndrome be about to bite them again.

Granted it is only week one of the league but I guarantee a couple of those results yesterday are a sign of things to come over the course of the year.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 17/02/2014 09:04:50    1547135

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