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Well i wasn't either obviously but as far as i know he wasn't.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 23/01/2014 17:06:41    1535796

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I have played the game even it was at a very low level and sun or no sun I think the referee who was closer than either of us to the incident was best placed to make the decision. Bach in 1981 I remember Sean Foley being put off a similar incident v Galway and no amount of reasoned argument could get him reinstated for the replay despite the fact that we had an absolute glut of injuries besides. In this I believe the appeals body were right. Referees decisions should not be easily reversed as their job is hard enough never mind fellas in armchairs overturning their decisions

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4517 - 23/01/2014 17:07:41    1535798

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Well at least the ball is clearly there

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4517 - 23/01/2014 17:09:20    1535800

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Not that this needs answering anymore than it needed asking but players should not run away from any ball. However players at all reasonable levels are taught to limit careless aimless strikes from poor positions as they can concede frees and/ or get player in trouble. In my opinion if things had been going well for Horgan he would never have contested that ball as he did. He would prob be waiting for a break but as he was getting no change from lk backs he chanced it. The opinion of 4 or 5 posters. thank u for accepting our right to have an opinion expert.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/01/2014 17:12:58    1535803

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Yes, "clearly".

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 23/01/2014 17:28:02    1535808

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Ah come on Oldtourman, you can't compare the Sean Foley incident with Horgan's. One, Foley's, was a red card any day of the day. The other was marginal at worst

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 23/01/2014 17:28:22    1535809

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Not often this happens but I agree with Mike. Sean was lucky he wasn't arrested ha ha

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/01/2014 17:36:58    1535816

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no problem df i'll accept your right to an opinion any day as long as you accept mine.
just have a question for you - does that mean that in your opinion a player who is playing well (confident) will wait to get an easy ball off a break while a player not playing well will try to win the ball himself?? if you wouldn't mind could you explain the logic behind that for me please, because (i may be wrong) but i thought it would always be the opposite way around particularly from my experiences from my own playing days. i would also be very interested to get an opinion from the other 4 or 5 posters who df says are all of this belief.

hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 23/01/2014 18:45:56    1535851

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if you playing well and the ball runs for you u can take a chance and wait for a break. If horgan had 3 pts from play then he is top form and buzzing. Things tend to happen for u. When things going against u u have to work harder and u come further out to get ball and u try to make things happen. U have more or less told old tour man that u play the game. That is something very player has experience off surely. we all had good days or bad days. I believe Horgsn was frustrated cos things weren't happening for him

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/01/2014 19:24:43    1535871

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facetious as ever. the 4 or 5 other posters said they believed horgan should have been sent off. The trying harder contention is my own and well u know it.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/01/2014 19:26:42    1535872

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DF again I ask you to watch the Munster final again. Horgan had 2 points from play in the first half. Along with Harmedy, who also had 2, they were creating havoc in the full back line. Only one Limerick player had as many scores from play at half time as Horgan so he was far from struggling

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 23/01/2014 19:55:49    1535893

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Couldn't find anything on you tube mike other than the pitch invasion but found a report tht confirmed he scored 2 pts from play. So on that u r right however this section from the match report confirms that our backs were well on top and the cork forwards failed to convert a lot of their chances

"Mind you that needn't have been the case and wouldn't have been the case had the Rebels capitalised on all the opportunities they created in a dominant opening period. It wasn't just the strong breeze at their backs, though that was a factor, Cork were hurling with far more authority than a nervous-looking home side in that period but hit 10 wides and spurned two good goal-scoring chances."

Really think u are being hard on our backs. Only for a superhuman effort from them that game would have been over at half time IMO

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/01/2014 20:17:14    1535910

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10 wides and 2 missed goal chances along with 10 points and you say our backs were on top?? There were in the second half against 5 forwards but they were in huge trouble until the sending off

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 23/01/2014 20:29:16    1535920

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Mike you are now being facetious. You have just watched the game so u say. Our midfield was totally absent wasn't it? Our backs were under ferocious pressure and conceded a mere 10 pts. Why did cork have 10 wides because our backs didn't give them an inch why were goals chances missed same reason. It seems you are not happy unless u r knocking your own. That is your prerogative but you have raised a question and with the help of a newspaper report I have answered it. If u like the Clare lads want to demean limericks win then that fine by me. We can agree to differ I hope

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/01/2014 20:43:44    1535933

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df how many times do i have to say it - i did not demean limericks victory, i said ye deserved it. going back to your previous point above, i completely disagree but i value your right to an opinion.
i would like to hear what others think of what we were discussing - for anyone that missed it - df said that a player who is playing well will wait for an easy ball from a break, while a player not playing well will go to try and win the ball himself. i thought the opposite.

hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 23/01/2014 21:00:46    1535947

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What DF said is when things are not going well for a player they will work harder and try to make things happen for them. If anyone who has played the game at any level disagrees with that then I will be aghast. This year for example a lot of analysts said that Galway were poor and that resulted in Canning getting less ball and forced him to work harder further out from goal to make things happen. How anyone who nows anything about the game could dispute that is entirely beyond me

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/01/2014 21:08:33    1535952

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I didn't see where that was said but I would think to complete opposite. Someone who is playing well would go for every ball and someone playing awful will look to hide

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 23/01/2014 21:09:30    1535954

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How many with a propensity to hide make it on to intercounty teams mike??????

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 24/01/2014 08:14:38    1535988

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I thought this was supposed to be a "Cork hurlers 2014" thread, not a "Limerick were brilliant in 2013 and deserve more love" thread that the disillusioned one has turned it into.

KeyserSoze (Cork) - Posts: 363 - 24/01/2014 09:34:21    1536007

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Sorry kaiser. Just went with flow. We now onto was red card justified. I agreed with 4 or 5 others who said it was. Then said it could have been cos he was frustrated n went for a ball he wouldn't normally have. That cork related isn't it?

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 24/01/2014 09:58:07    1536028

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