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For my two cents worth i think it would be important for cork to set a winning mentality from the off. The have the chance to breed real confidence into the team now with strong wins in this division. While cork competed well in last years league the narrow losses will chip away at confidence. while i like the 2/3 dual stars being available i also think we need another 2/3 players for different positions around the field. last year at certain stages cork were both lucky and un lucky but previous cork teams found a way to win where as in last years final when cork drew level with clare after a horrid start you would have expected them to drive on instead they went backwards and that comes down to the mentality. Cork arent far away but neither are tipp /kk/ galway/ clare / limerish ish so i think the team that builds up a head of steam in the league and brings it into the championship will put them selves in a very good position. ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 17/01/2014 13:33:30 1532998 Link 0 |
Agree Ritchie bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 17/01/2014 15:33:12 1533083 Link 0 |
Keysersoze if best lk team went out against cork there would be 3 possible 4 NA piarsaigh men on it and that wouldnt in my view include the one who started last year. JA had a system of leaving our better players on the bench. That won't happen this year. One thing that seems to evade ppl from cork n tipp is an injured player is a bigger loss to lk or Clare because we have only about 50 or 60% of the pick that the bigger counties do disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 17/01/2014 16:32:23 1533121 Link 0 |
Cork will be there or thereabouts in 2014. Remember it was a faulty referees watch and a "holy mary" of a shot that cost them last year's All-Ireland. That said I would not make them favs. Dublin will take some beating this year with a return of the "Cats". Everyone will now have wised up to Clare so I think back-to-back titles is beyond them. At present I would go for Dublin followed by Kilkenny, Galway, Tipp and Cork in that order. AwbegRover (Cork) - Posts: 136 - 17/01/2014 17:52:38 1533159 Link 0 |
disillusiondfan ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 17/01/2014 17:58:53 1533161 Link 0 |
The half-forward line is very strong if Walsh is everything we remember he was from u-21 . 10-Harnedy 11-Cronin/Walsh 12-Cronin/Walsh. The raw material is certainly there for everywhere bar half-back and maybe midfield lines. RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 17/01/2014 18:00:58 1533162 Link 0 |
Bennybunny preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 804 - 17/01/2014 19:31:45 1533210 Link 0 |
Come off it Richie. Cork city has a bigger population than all of limerick. Do u not think every county has competition from other sports. We're it not for NA piarsaigh limerick city 60% of counties population wouldn't provide any intercounty players. City is huge stronghold for rugby n soccer. Cork has 2 or 3 times the playing population of lk Clare or WFord. disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 17/01/2014 19:54:52 1533221 Link 0 |
It's funny how, according Thurlesblues, Cork had no forwards. They now have Harnedy, Walsh, Cronin, Lehane, Horgan and O'Sullivan plus a few very talented new faces in the panel. RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 17/01/2014 19:55:20 1533222 Link 0 |
It's funny how, according Thurlesblues, Cork had no forwards. They now have Harnedy, Walsh, Cronin, Lehane, Horgan and O'Sullivan plus a few very talented new faces in the panel. RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 17/01/2014 19:55:20 1533223 Link 0 |
Cork hurling gets robbed by rugby. Tomas o'leary (captained cork to minor all-ireland) would of had a massive future with Cork, Darren sweetnam. Has any other county got players of that quality choosing other sports? RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 17/01/2014 20:07:20 1533231 Link 0 |
O Leary n sweet man played hurling obviously as kids in limerick city most kids never even play hurling to start with so we will never know how many good hurlers we have lost. Lk have won 7 all irelands with i think only 2 or 3 medals ( certainly less than 5) hoing to city players. C'mon lads ye come from biggest hurling county in Ireland with the city in Ireland that has the strongest hurling tradition. In numbers terms only Dublin surpasses cork but they don't have the tradition in urban areas. disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 17/01/2014 20:55:14 1533259 Link 0 |
Rebel Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4517 - 17/01/2014 20:55:47 1533260 Link 0 |
Hurling in the city has never been as low (although things are picking up again). My point was Limerick and Dublin aren't the only countys who can use the other sports excuse. Cork have had two proven county players taken in the past ten years. RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 17/01/2014 21:54:42 1533279 Link 0 |
Wasn't aware that limerick were using other sports excuse. That was started by a cork poster. Cork is a huge county with 3 or 4 times the playing population of other counties in Munster bar tipp. The point I was making is that an injury in Clare lk or WFord is harder on smaller counties. Obvious exception being kk where they appear to have a conveyor belt of hurlers comin through disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 18/01/2014 10:07:33 1533284 Link 0 |
There is a very interesting thread coming out of this debate i.e. the loss of talented youngsters to other codes Rugby, Soccer, etc. When one thinks back, is it not now ironic that when the debate was raging over the opening of Croke Park to these sports, warnings were issued about they being in competition with the GAA for talent? Mr. Kelly maintained that this was not the case and we should go even further and open even more grounds to them. Be afraid, be very afraid that we will lose even more players to these codes. We should never have entertained that "cock-eyed" motion and now we are reaping the benefits of it. AwbegRover (Cork) - Posts: 136 - 18/01/2014 10:50:01 1533288 Link 0 |
every county will lose player to other sports. not just outside of gaa but hurling will lose players to football and vice versa. other sports will say that they are losing players to gaa. of which there is clearly far more than what the gaa is "losing". its an on-going competition, young players will play the sport that they grow up with most of the time. if "their" team is successful for a period of time when they are growing up they will want to emulate them. for example a lot more kids would have turned to soccer in the early 90's when ireland were going well. between 5 to 10 years ago rugby would have seen a peak in interest with ireland success and munster dominating aswell which im sure had a bigger effect in limerick than other munster counties. its just the way it happens. just take last year with limerick winning munster and clare winning the all ireland im sure if both counties can keep up that success it will attact youngsters in both counties. success at senior intercounty level is the key to getting attention from the kids. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 18/01/2014 11:36:56 1533300 Link 0 |
Although Cork haven't entered the Waterford Crystal this year, they will have an interesting match next Saturday 25 against UCC in the Canon O'Brien Cup. It will be interesting to see whether JBM will use the occasion to try out new talent. In the corresponding match last year, college players on the Cork panel played with UCC. Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 646 - 18/01/2014 14:18:22 1533347 Link 0 |
Awbeg Rover: Thanks for the message from 1924, how are things back there? KeyserSoze (Cork) - Posts: 363 - 18/01/2014 14:55:38 1533357 Link 0 |
I never said those two players got robbed by Rugby, i said cork hurling does in general as it does in Limerick and Dublin and vice versa rugby loses talent to the GAA. If there was no such thing as rugby both of them would have had long careers with Cork which proves Cork also has to compete with other sports (and therefore lose players to them), maybe even more than Dublin has too. RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 18/01/2014 15:29:02 1533372 Link 0 |