Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
Posts: 9505

I agree with your post but i don't really see the point of a tit for tat arrangement tbh. Dublin fans are not angels either but if Dublin fans reacted yesterday in similar fashion i'd condone them immediately. To your credit you called out your fellow county people. I'd also agree nothing has changed from the Sluddengate debacle. Nothing has changed in the couple of decades ive been following the game either. The GAA has learnt nothing and somehow it is still deemed appropriate for some people to physically approach a referee after a game. There is also a severe lack of knowledge from some attending supporters regarding rules imo too.

This type of reaction is all too familar after some high profile GAA games. Its also becoming increasingly annoying and should not be tolerated.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 20/04/2014 17:58:22    1577710

The funny thin is that applying the rules today to what happened in ten leinster final sludden would have been right allowing the goal to stand as it would have been advantage after joe been fouled so much there would be no need for the blatant penalty.
But more of a concern would be supporters of cavan learned nothing from the disgrace of louth supporters that day.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 20/04/2014 17:58:52    1577711

hardcore
County: Monaghan
Posts: 918

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Interesting both Cork and Cavan have done 4 in a row in Munster and Ulster but haven't won the All Ireland,Havent even got close in fairness which say a lot for the standard in both province's.

First game was great,Roscommon were the better team, again Cork showed in bits what they can do but it is never enough.If the go on a shoot out with Dublin in the final they could come up short.

The second game was as i expected despreate.Dublin were there to play open attacking football,Cavan were there to keep the score down.Horrible to watch.

For the 4th year in a row Cavan have made it this far doing the same thing,im not counting the win over Wexford,but they havent learned that the 12 man defence wont win you an All Ireland,plus they dont have enough scoring power to win it.

I still think Roscommon would of beat Cavan in the final,although Dublin will love a shoot out,which will suit them better.





Another jealous sour Monaghan man
.....to say cork and cavan weren't even close...?...silly...both teams lost by last minute frees.....congrats dublin....cavans defence was excellent tho...play to your strengths....and a Monaghan man saying it was horrible to watch.??...ur 21s done tried the exact same but failed miserably....here's to a great final.!...bigger games ahead for cavan....time to move on

.tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 20/04/2014 19:22:08    1577740

Cavan slasher

If it had of been Dublin supporters, players, management, CB officials that acted in such a way

You'd see a far different response on HS and across all forms of media to this incident

And as well you know it!! I think you've bloody got off lightly!!!!

And you have gombeens on here speaking about Dublin getting special treatment.......

Give me a Fu****g break!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 20/04/2014 20:03:58    1577760

hardcore co. Monaghan, when is Monaghan going to win an all Ireland, Cavan always beat you guy s, so where those that leave yous, anyway best of luck to all Ulster teams next week in league final s, and roll on Ulster championship,

mchugh11 (Donegal) - Posts: 242 - 20/04/2014 20:13:25    1577764

Referee made some bad decisions yesterday but there is no place for the scenes at full time in our game. Fair enough, tensions may have been running high at the full time whistle but that stuff should never be tolerated. Hopefully the GAA comes down hard on those involved but the GAA need to ask some serious questions about the refereeing standards also.

Hard luck to Cavan yesterday but well done to our neighbours Ros on making it to the final!

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 20/04/2014 20:30:04    1577775

Jimbo,

Taking the high moral ground does not suit you at all.
You should delve into your history a bit and you will find plenty of things to be ashamed of involving Dublin supporters.
Glass houses and all that craic.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 20/04/2014 20:32:37    1577776

will someone please explain why rte could not provide any kind of report on the under 21 games?

blueskies (Cavan) - Posts: 197 - 20/04/2014 20:45:28    1577788

Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
Posts: 9506

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Jimbo,

Taking the high moral ground does not suit you at all.
You should delve into your history a bit and you will find plenty of things to be ashamed of involving Dublin supporters.
Glass houses and all that craic.


Slasher, I'm delving but nothing's coming up, care to enlighten me?

bluedubstar (Dublin) - Posts: 835 - 20/04/2014 20:52:10    1577793

Blueskies - I have a feeling RTE have pulled back on GAA coverage since the Sky deal was announced. I left Portlaoise at half time in Dubs v Cavan game expecting to get commentary of 2nd half on way home. No commentary, long diatribes on the wonders of Crystal Palace's survival with a very infrequent check back to Brian Carty. I clearly recall full commentary on the u-21 semi-finals last year.

facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 219 - 20/04/2014 21:01:02    1577798

foreverroyal what happen after the game was wrong in 2010 by the louth fans and by the cavan fans yesterday but even if the rules had been there in 2010 there would not count because joe took a dive and there is no advantage for that as most Meath fans and players are honest and will tell you that it was a dive and bad refereeing

jackhammer (Louth) - Posts: 83 - 20/04/2014 21:20:42    1577810

Blueskies

Considering RTE had a state of the Art 'Results Center' last week with Resident Clare McNamara on hand for 15 seconds to read out the results.....Maybe this has drained the RTE finances and they could not afford to pay for more of TG4s footage,OR Maybe they were to busy dreaming up new ways to find work for people on RTE Pensions they forgot about the U21 Semi finals?

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 20/04/2014 21:30:41    1577815

Missed the point CS

No harm

Seems a common practice of Cavan lads over the weekend

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 20/04/2014 21:58:07    1577824

Advantage rule is as follows:
When a foul is committed the referee may allow the play to continue if he considers it to be to the advantage of the offended team. He shall signal that advantage by raising an arm upright. If he deems no advantage to have occurred, he may subsequently award a free for that foul from where it occurred.
May be controversial but the ref is entitled to his decision. I did a proper second count on the video and it was 4 seconds, all above board.

Is a soft free but a free, the tackle was aimed at the player not the ball. Is a final minute soft free as bad as a soft free in the first minute? A ref shouldn't consider the timing, he should just follow the rules. A good ref will treat every minute of the game the same. A ref should never make a decision based on its timing or significance, he should assess each situation as is, was it a free? He deemed it was. Simple as that. No one was wronged, you have sixty mins to win it, Cavan did not score enough in the second half. The risk of a defensive system didn't pay off.

Let the GAA give a suitable sanction to the offending players and mentors and let's. Every game has a dubious decision or two, it's part of the game and the reality of most sports. Rugby have it figured out?

FOB (Dublin) - Posts: 912 - 21/04/2014 08:44:15    1577839

My question is the decision to play the game in portlaoise.
Claims are that it was the netural location that best suited all involved.
I question the ability for portlaoise to hold the event for the following reasons;
Parking shambles
The inability of the stewards to do thir jobs, the pitch invasion at the end of the first game and their allowance of people to get on the pitch at the end of the second game when you knew people were disgruntled.
Not to mention the idea of neutral venue, Dublin having played there twice already.

notimpressed (UK) - Posts: 98 - 21/04/2014 09:43:08    1577849

I agree - why wasn't Cavan Dublin played in navan - I know the gaa wanted a double header but supporters would much prefer a more convenient venue than getting to see the second game

Plus10 (Roscommon) - Posts: 5 - 21/04/2014 10:04:23    1577855

Ah ffs now Portlaois is our home ground would you give it over for gods sake this is getting ridiculous and talk about sour grapes from a manager take your beating like a man.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/04/2014 10:09:03    1577858

Jesus wept now we had an advantage in Portlaoise cos we played there before? The excuses are becoming laughable at this stage!! Giving me a right laugh this fine morning :)

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 21/04/2014 10:42:28    1577892

Embarrassing comments in fairness. If this is what he thinks on a sober reflection than it's fairly worrying and there's nothing that could be said to him.

Easy to see how thing got outta hand really.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 21/04/2014 10:49:50    1577899

I have too agree with the Dublin lads on this one, ridiculous comments from the Cavan management..

bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 21/04/2014 11:04:31    1577914