Just a thought :the Dubs set up lately is portrayed as the blue print to follow (and are doing brilliantly on the pitch)!! BUT is it now a major shame on the Dublin County Board that they have their hurlers training in Wicklow and playing a challenge match in Meath!!
They have to play in Croker as Parnell Park is average at best??
I'd like the sensible Dubs to reply:)

curnew (Wicklow) - Posts: 449 - 10/12/2013 12:03:40    1522126

Hurlers training in Bray and playing challenge in Ashbourne, both practically part of Dublin wha! ;)

Obviously it isn't ideal but it costs an awful lot of money to be redeveloping Parnell into a bigger ground. Despite what some of the Economic experts on this site think the DCB isn't made of money.

A dedicated training facility for Dublin inter-county teams and a redeveloped Parnell versus putting coaches into struggling clubs and schools. The DCB hasn't gone for any big vanity project and concentrated on making a difference in the clubs/schools with young talent being developed. Personally I prefer this approach to be honest.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13810 - 10/12/2013 12:20:52    1522138

This is a very good point!

I think funds from the richer countys with bigbank accounts like Mayo should be shared out for to create facilities for the less well off ones!
Mayo are hoarding €13m in their account and I think some of this should go towards new facilities for Dublin! Dublin provided them with most of that €13m in the first place so it should be a case of 'use it or lose it' and it gets 'returned to sender' if you dont use it so Dublin will get its money back from Mayo!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 10/12/2013 12:25:00    1522145

The hurlers could train in any of the clubs in Dublin who have similar set ups to bray emmets easily but daly wanted bray ad easy access for himself to get home after.
Playing a challenge match in ashbourne was probably more to do with making it easier for antrim travel wise.
Sure naomh mearnog,fingallians or blunden drive could all hold that game easily if needed.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/12/2013 12:35:29    1522154

Bray Emmett's grounds are in Dublin so they don't train in Wicklow.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/12/2013 12:37:56    1522156

Theres a wealth of a difference between having no facilities in Dublin and having no available facilities.

For the record, there is nothing wrong with Parnell park as a county ground.

But nearly every Dub would agree, a high quality pernament home for the Hurlers must be addressed by the DCB!

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1663 - 10/12/2013 12:40:46    1522160

Nice day for some fishing curnew :)

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 10/12/2013 12:44:23    1522164

Snufalufagus
County: Dublin
Posts: 7189

1522145 This is a very good point!

I think funds from the richer countys with bigbank accounts like Mayo should be shared out for to create facilities for the less well off ones!
Mayo are hoarding €13m in their account and I think some of this should go towards new facilities for Dublin! Dublin provided them with most of that €13m in the first place so it should be a case of 'use it or lose it' and it gets 'returned to sender' if you dont use it so Dublin will get its money back from Mayo!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael




Brilliant snuf.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2843 - 10/12/2013 12:44:30    1522165

A dedicated training facility for Dublin inter-county teams and a redeveloped Parnell versus putting coaches into struggling clubs and schools. The DCB hasn't gone for any big vanity project and concentrated on making a difference in the clubs/schools with young talent being developed. Personally I prefer this approach to be honest.

It doesn't need to be a big vanity project, why is it that when a home ground for Dublin is discussed people insist on using terms like "vanity" and "white elephant". A MODEST sized ground capable of holding 20'000 to 25'000 would be ideal for most of Dublin's needs and their players do deserve a dedicated central training area I would think with outdoor and indoor facilities, Dublin agreeing with and investing in an existing club ground or college facilities for these matters could provide more than suitable facilities for training and matches, so please less of the "white elephant" excuses no one is looking for the like of that

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 10/12/2013 12:51:40    1522174

Can all these financial threads be merged into one big bumper boring super hypocrisy high horsing my county is perfect and yours isn't thread?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12378 - 10/12/2013 12:54:35    1522178

Dont tell me they spent all the AIG money on reebok classics and tracksuit bottoms!

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 10/12/2013 13:10:16    1522189

Well the leading Economic expert on this site if your good friend jimbo so maybe we should ask him. Its funny Dubs get on their high house and abuse other counties who upgrade their county ground etc but when its comes to them they dont need to because it will cost them too much money yet they have no problem renting Croke Park for every game. Some more Dublin logic at its finest there..

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 10/12/2013 13:30:26    1522205

If Mayo CB had a decent bone in their bodies they would pool their considerable wealth with the rest of us and help their capital city out

But no.......they want it all for themselves

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 10/12/2013 13:30:45    1522206

TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 9720

1522189
Dont tell me they spent all the AIG money on reebok classics and tracksuit bottoms!

___

Haha...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 10/12/2013 13:36:42    1522208

moomoo
County: Kerry
Posts: 3825

How about posting something that isn't related to me?

Try it out

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 10/12/2013 14:01:56    1522223

Snuf
Curnew said sensible Dublin posters :-/

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2013 14:08:05    1522230

Richieq
County: Meath
Posts: 1379

It doesn't need to be a big vanity project, why is it that when a home ground for Dublin is discussed people insist on using terms like "vanity" and "white elephant". A MODEST sized ground capable of holding 20'000 to 25'000 would be ideal for most of Dublin's needs and their players do deserve a dedicated central training area I would think with outdoor and indoor facilities, Dublin agreeing with and investing in an existing club ground or college facilities for these matters could provide more than suitable facilities for training and matches, so please less of the "white elephant" excuses no one is looking for the like of that

Richie

It would be a vanity project. All the money the DCB have at the moment is earmarked already. For example they've pretty much spent the AIG money (as in they know exactly where it is going). The vast bulk going to games development, coaching etc.

I, along with most Dubs I think, would rather the money goes into more practical things than redeveloping Parnell and building a training centre when realistically there is no need.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13810 - 10/12/2013 14:09:21    1522231

Well, firstly, Bray Emmets have excellent facilities. They received a healthy government grant and they invested it well in infrastructure, which is laudable. They don't use the facilities 24/7 so why wouldn't they rent it out to get the best return from their investment? I know Kilmacud Crokes rent their facilities for training purposes so why shouldn't Dublin? If the rent on these facilities is less than the cost of building their own or the current funds are already allocated to other projects then it just seems like a sensible option to me. Ultimately, I would like to see Dublin with their own facilities but what's the rush? It's the comparing yourself to the Jones's attitude that resulted in so many recent businesses expanding beyond their capabilities at the time and look where that got them. A sound financial plan is vital to future success on the field and if this means training in Wicklow at the present, then I have no problem with this at all.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 10/12/2013 14:47:14    1522253

Richieq
County: Meath
Posts: 1379

It doesn't need to be a big vanity project, why is it that when a home ground for Dublin is discussed people insist on using terms like "vanity" and "white elephant". A MODEST sized ground capable of holding 20'000 to 25'000 would be ideal for most of Dublin's needs and their players do deserve a dedicated central training area I would think with outdoor and indoor facilities, Dublin agreeing with and investing in an existing club ground or college facilities for these matters could provide more than suitable facilities for training and matches, so please less of the "white elephant" excuses no one is looking for the like of that

Richie

It would be a vanity project. All the money the DCB have at the moment is earmarked already. For example they've pretty much spent the AIG money (as in they know exactly where it is going). The vast bulk going to games development, coaching etc.

I, along with most Dubs I think, would rather the money goes into more practical things than redeveloping Parnell and building a training centre when realistically there is no need.

I beg to differ, Dublin have no suitable county ground of their own a fact I find somewhat astonishing, and no dedicated training and development centre. All counties have money earmarked for various things such as youth development and coaching, infrastructural development requires special fundraising and grant applications. Are Dublin forever more to use Croke Park for all their fixtures?? Are they never to develop a modest sized ground for league and qualifier matches for their footballers and hurlers?? Why should this be allowed be the case, one county playing consistently at HQ is wrong and I will continue that mantra until I'm blue in the face (no pun intended). I applaud the work done at underage and club coaching in Dublin in both codes and the rewards are being reaped but in no way should Dublin regard Croke Park as their home forever more, financial reasoning should never override fairness and I find such a thought appalling

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 10/12/2013 16:34:29    1522327

Richieq
County: Meath
Posts: 1379

It doesn't need to be a big vanity project, why is it that when a home ground for Dublin is discussed people insist on using terms like "vanity" and "white elephant". A MODEST sized ground capable of holding 20'000 to 25'000 would be ideal for most of Dublin's needs and their players do deserve a dedicated central training area I would think with outdoor and indoor facilities, Dublin agreeing with and investing in an existing club ground or college facilities for these matters could provide more than suitable facilities for training and matches, so please less of the "white elephant" excuses no one is looking for the like of that

Richie

It would be a vanity project. All the money the DCB have at the moment is earmarked already. For example they've pretty much spent the AIG money (as in they know exactly where it is going). The vast bulk going to games development, coaching etc.

I, along with most Dubs I think, would rather the money goes into more practical things than redeveloping Parnell and building a training centre when realistically there is no need.

I beg to differ, Dublin have no suitable county ground of their own a fact I find somewhat astonishing, and no dedicated training and development centre. All counties have money earmarked for various things such as youth development and coaching, infrastructural development requires special fundraising and grant applications. Are Dublin forever more to use Croke Park for all their fixtures?? Are they never to develop a modest sized ground for league and qualifier matches for their footballers and hurlers?? Why should this be allowed be the case, one county playing consistently at HQ is wrong and I will continue that mantra until I'm blue in the face (no pun intended). I applaud the work done at underage and club coaching in Dublin in both codes and the rewards are being reaped but in no way should Dublin regard Croke Park as their home forever more, financial reasoning should never override fairness and I find such a thought appalling

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3748 - 10/12/2013 16:40:13    1522333