I wasn't making a hit at Donegal or Dublin, just showing that Mayo's 650,000 isn't that bad in the larger scheme of things!!

JMK (Kerry) - Posts: 273 - 10/12/2013 17:14:37    1522357

Mayo County Board do not have €13m in the bank unfortunately! The 13m figure is the total of the balance sheet. Fixed assets are valued at over €18m, bank loans are over €5m and the current assets are about €200,000 greater than the current liabilities. This is what the €13.2 m figure is made up of.

mayoboy1 (Mayo) - Posts: 1654 - 10/12/2013 18:01:47    1522377

Looks like there won't be too many Christmas cards crossing the Shannon between Dublin & Mayo this year!!!!

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3750 - 10/12/2013 18:10:57    1522384

Disposable income is very different to assets. But it still best the question, can a team prepare properly without spending a fortune on costs? Mayo have travel concerns for sure, but the reality is that they need to improve their training for the last 3 weeks of the season, as this is where something is going badly wrong for them.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3853 - 10/12/2013 18:28:25    1522392

JMK

Some excellent posts there. I have no issue at all with Mayo CB and how much they spend. They are not alone. What I have an issue with is one particular from Mayo who has been bleating all year about Dublin. When it's pointed out his county are not much different he can't accept it. It probably does look petty, but Jaysus I enjoyed it.
Looking forward to meeting your countymen again next year for more fun, and maybe more.

Aido.

Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 10/12/2013 19:47:57    1522422

I havent bothered reading through all the comments but im getting the vibe from what i have read is that people think having money in the GAA is a huge advantage. It's not like soccer where the clubs with the most money can buy the best players. All of the players have been born and bread in their county. Money was never mentioned when Kerry consistently got to all ireland finals in the last decade so why should money matter now when Mayo and Dublin can show that that they have healthy bank accounts. There is no mention that maybe this increased income could be down to increased participation in county board draws and season ticket holders. Also club football in Mayo is a huge thing and the support that does be shown, especially when local rivals clash is second to none. If every supporters are paying €5 into games every week it all adds up. Also I know that some clubs put in a serious amount of extra fundraising to recieve extra AI final tickets the last 2 years and they definitely didnt recieve as much tickets as they paid for.On the €650000 that was spent on the senior team,the top team doctors, physios and S&C coaches and what not dont come cheap. Mayo had to travel for national league games in Croker twice, cork, down and armagh. Buses, Hotels and food arent free. And then when you include the 3 games in the all ireland series, it all adds up lads and sometimes you just have to go that extra mile if you want to succeed

pitch_invader (Mayo) - Posts: 154 - 10/12/2013 21:43:39    1522454

pitch_invader
County: Mayo
Posts: 148

1522454 I havent bothered reading through all the comments but im getting the vibe from what i have read is that people think having money in the GAA is a huge advantage. It's not like soccer where the clubs with the most money can buy the best players. All of the players have been born and bread in their county. Money was never mentioned when Kerry consistently got to all ireland finals in the last decade so why should money matter now when Mayo and Dublin can show that that they have healthy bank accounts. There is no mention that maybe this increased income could be down to increased participation in county board draws and season ticket holders. Also club football in Mayo is a huge thing and the support that does be shown, especially when local rivals clash is second to none. If every supporters are paying €5 into games every we ek it all adds up. Also I know that some clubs put in a serious amount of extra fundraising to recieve extra AI final tickets the last 2 years and they definitely didnt recieve as much tickets as they paid for.On the €650000 that was spent on the senior team,the top team doctors, physios and S&C coaches and what not dont come cheap. Mayo had to travel for national league games in Croker twice, cork, down and armagh. Buses, Hotels and food arent free. And then when you include the 3 games in the all ireland series, it all adds up lads and sometimes you just have to go that extra mile if you want to succeed

good points and true, this thread unfortunately like a lot of others centres about a certain Mayo poster. the trouble is ,he spends most of his time moaning about Dublins unfair advantages and going into detail about how they should be split up.
then this topic came up and instead of realising Mayo were no way in the black ,he panicked and started straight away to make excuses why this would be the case . now he has spent the last few pages trying to change the subject and his answers.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 10/12/2013 22:01:11    1522464

Ok so we spent 650,000 on the senior team this year and probably similar the year before which is higher than most counties and way more than any county in Connacht....why? Well we have reached the last two finals so naturally expenses mount the longer you stay in the championship and then you have overnight travel costs, hotels, transport etc in Dublin.

I wonder will other counties publish their expense? As club members you are all entitled to a balance sheet of county finance at end of year.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11690 - 11/12/2013 09:17:36    1522472

Lads, when you take away the money spent on the holiday to Miami, Mayo's spending would be largely in line with a lot of counties. Galway spent €383,011 on their football teams. They were gone from the championship by the end of July, we had another two months of spending to go, including three trips to Dublin and all the extra spending involved in taking part in an All Ireland final. Not to mention the fact that out county board made money this year despite our large spending, while Galway suffered a loss of €54,000. People seem to forget that making finals is expensive, but is also financially rewarding, increased fund raising etc. So although Mayo spent a large amount of money, it was largely due to forking out for a holiday and making another All Ireland. For once, we were able to afford this large amount. People shouldn't be looking at us, instead attention should be directed at the likes of Galway who are spending beyond their means.

To the Dublin lads, yes we spent a lot on our team but I would wait until your own accounts are released before you have a go at us, You could end up with egg on the face!

unstoppable (Mayo) - Posts: 38 - 11/12/2013 16:20:21    1522662

To be fair I think every county should release their figures before any comparison judgement is made.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4475 - 11/12/2013 16:31:16    1522667

@ pitch_invader if you did bother reading back you would see that Mayo don't have healthy bank account. Its true to go the extra mile and if you want to succeed it won't come cheap but Mayo have reached finals before spending much less.

Mr_Pundit (UK) - Posts: 677 - 11/12/2013 17:06:18    1522694

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=206306

i assume you'll be outraged by this too jimbo...

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 12/12/2013 12:44:13    1522963

As more figures are coming out we are seeing that mayo's spending is very much in line with other counties (As I predicted).

I believe a few statement retractions are in order...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/12/2013 12:45:12    1522964

Ehhh no

It proves exactly what I've been saying...

Mayo have a financial advantage over many counties... mow it's been proven that you have an advantage over Cavan.

Thanks for posting that moomoo

You have already been proven wrong in you claims about Mayo's position

When saying that Mayo are a middle spending county

It was proven to you that in 2012 Mayo were in fact 7th out of 28 and you've spent around 150,000 more in 2013 compared to 2012

This proves that Mayo hold financial advantages of their own...


So how it that fair themaster?

Using your own logic about financial advantages... how is that fair man?

:)

You still haven't answered the simplest of questions

I was happy to leave this rest... because I felt a wee bit sorry for you...

But you continue with your waffle... fair enough so...

As more counties release their accounts my point will only be proved further

Not many counties can spend 650,000 on on team and then almost completely disregard hurling

This will be proven without a doubt thus only strengthening my point about Mayo's financial advantages over nearly every other county

Thanks again for posting that moomoo... and well further proving my point.

Good man

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 12/12/2013 13:16:02    1522983

TheMater
As more figures are coming out we are seeing that mayo's spending is very much in line with other counties (As I predicted).

Don't see it really. If you're referring to Cavan €500k was spent on all inter-county teams, from U14 up including up to an U21 AI semi-final and a ladies Intermediate final. Contrast this with €650k on one team albeit one which went two rounds further than Cavan.

As published previously, out of 28 counties Mayo's income and expenditure was 7th and if you take out the mainly hurling counties Mayo is 4th behind Dublin, Cork (could be counted as a mainly hurling county) and Kerry.

opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 539 - 12/12/2013 14:12:09    1523021

opa01
County: Cavan
Posts: 260

Unfortunately themaster is choosing to ignore an awful lot on this thread

All that's been proven by moomoo / themaster in their last two efforts is how far Mayo have spent over Cavan

650,000 on one team = 30 players... compared to Cavan's total spend right across the board

Thus only proving Mayo's financial advantages to an even greater extent

Mayo are right up there with the top GAA counties in terms of spending

Thus giving them financial advantages over all but a select few

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 12/12/2013 14:27:26    1523029

With all that money they should have to split the county in two!!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 12/12/2013 16:46:33    1523121

I have a solution to every counties problem, print your own Trillion dollar bill.....just don't land in Cuba like Mr.Burns did or Fidel will take it from you.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11690 - 12/12/2013 16:49:22    1523126

jimbodub
Ehhh no
It proves exactly what I've been saying...
Mayo have a financial advantage over many counties... mow it's been proven that you have an advantage over Cavan.
Thanks for posting that moomoo
You have already been proven wrong in you claims about Mayo's position
When saying that Mayo are a middle spending county

Actually, the above proves what I have been saying. Mayo spending 33% more over 5 months than cavan spent over 3 months, isnt the same as dublin spending 400% more than them. You are ignoring scale on purpose and frankly it just underlines the dishonesty with which you approach this argument, especially since the entire thing is based around differences in scale. What you are saying is like saying mayo have the advantage of a big population over some teams. In other words idiotic. I have said throughout, we are not going to get everyone on the exact same numbers. I said the scale should be relative to the average of the rest of the country - Mayos is, dublins isnt.

It was proven to you that in 2012 Mayo were in fact 7th out of 28 and you've spent around 150,000 more in 2013 compared to 2012
This proves that Mayo hold financial advantages of their own...

Again, disingenuous to the core. Combine football and hurling spending, then see where we are as regards spending. They both come from the same fund after all and there is no rule that the money must be split evenly. So combine them and do your sums again. Now if, in light of this fact you chose to continue with your blatently untrue point, well obviously that would say more about you than mayo's spending.

Plus, even if mayo were spending more, which they are not, the fact is they have the average population, therefore what they are able to generate isnt done in an unfair way. Again, blatently ignored by those with ulterior motives.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/12/2013 17:47:03    1523160

Jimbo
You still haven't answered the simplest of questions

To quote yourself, I answered it to the best of my knowledge jim...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/12/2013 17:53:28    1523167