Marlon

Well said. We really are terrible at being anti-British.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13817 - 21/11/2013 16:48:58    1516200

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For gods sake, there is simply no viable way that sky will buy the exclusive rights to the gaa. Why would they hill? That is the scaremongering people are talking about. It makes no sense in the world for that to happen, there is no evidence in the world that it is going to happen, so why is it such a bone of contention for you? Why do you keep going on about what that would mean and how that would effect us? It is just some arbitrary situation that isnt going to occur. It is like saying what if england invaded again, wouldnt it be terrible etc etc, it isnt going to happen man.

The GAA always insisted that subscription channels were an option and complained with other sporting organisations about the ring-fencing of certain events for terrestrial television but the realpolitik of the situation was that such a move would be a hard sell.
In his comments on Today FM last week, McKenna was pretty much in line with this policy even if he did talk up the prospect of subscription television.
"We have an open agenda on this one. What we're charged with, is to get the best deal for the Association. That's not necessarily the most money but it's certainly where we'll get the best TV coverage, exposure and marketing and push for our games and benefit long-term.
"Obviously a pay-wall would cause some issues, but we've been with a pay-wall when we've been with Setanta. So the leagues are behind a pay-wall for the Setanta coverage."

these were comments from an irish times article involving mckenna,I dont see where you believe its scaremongering on my part when the man is coming out with these comments.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 16:49:37    1516203

htaem
I dont see the point your making trying to make?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 16:51:54    1516204

htaem
who were them comments blind and biased please do explain? history has proven this its not just my word.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 16:54:43    1516207

htaem

how are they blind and biased please do tell me?
I dont see anything funny in the devastation they caused all over the world,for nothing other then greed.
history doesnt lie

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 16:56:39    1516210

On the contrary Htaem, thats called honesty and hill should be applauded for laying his cards on the table instead of being attacked. For what its worth I share hills distaste for the British military/political establishment, does that now make me racist?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 21/11/2013 16:58:51    1516212

hill16no1man

how are they blind and biased please do tell me?
I dont see anything funny in the devastation they caused all over the world,for nothing other then greed.
history doesnt lie


As I've pointed out already, you've called them 'the biggest terrorist organisation the world has ever seen', that's your opinion nothing more. The reason I call it biased is because you're completely ignoring other former colonial powers such as Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Holland, France etc etc. How were the British any worse?

Ps I laughed at your bias not the devastation caused, please don't twist my words, thank you.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/11/2013 17:12:49    1516221

cheers brend

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 17:13:41    1516225

brendtheredhand

For what its worth I share hills distaste for the British military/political establishment, does that now make me racist?


I don't mind what your opinion of the British military or political establishment is, it's not my business and personally I have no opinion on them, they have no relevance to me.

Now of course that doesn't make you a racist and I don't recall ever using that word on this thread, if I have please show me because I genuinely don't remember if I did, but either way I'm pretty sure I didn't use it.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/11/2013 17:17:55    1516226

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Get off my throne? Is that a dig at my dual citizenship? Not a very clever one but sure that not that surprising.
As foe cheering on england in sport? I gladly will and do so but your right was in pub last night plenty of as it happens dub lads there anf they all cheering on germany, funny thing most of them had man u or liverpool jerseys on, one with gerrard blased across back, I think that's irony isn't it?. I'm not asking anyone to support england just like I'm not asking anyone to support meath. All I'm saying is that as a irish national with a british accent I should not be racially subjected. Simple really. Just like a black person or chinese or whatever should not be. As for the kerry boy. It was 700 years perhaps you are the one that needs to check history books.

Foreverroyal the quote of get off your throne was not malicious , if you dont believe me ask anyone on here I bet you a pound they will back me .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/11/2013 17:33:15    1516232

damothedub

its pointless trying to talk sense to that poster

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 18:08:30    1516245

htaem

simply put because non of them countires were as successful in destroying and taking ownership of other countries to the scale britain has achieved and still to this day.
take a country is big as canada even the queen of england is still there head of state!!!

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 18:14:29    1516248

Brianmac
I'm all for the GAA promoting our wonderful unique games but There has to be a happy medium , a way we can that do it with out selling out, at the moment we're in control of our own destiny we're in control of what direction to take, but we'll lose that the minute we sell out to sky, also to hill and brend ye'r spot on I couldnt agree with ye more.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/11/2013 18:34:03    1516258

"The reason I call it biased is because you're completely ignoring other former colonial powers such as Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Holland, France etc etc. How were the British any worse?" No, but then again the Brits were (are if your from the north) the only ones that came her. Now just because a few others countries behaved as bad is not really a recommendation or selling point point and I'd call these views positive bias and discrimination.

Do we need this deal? No. Will the organisation even entertain it? No. Does it tell us anything about ourselves as a nation? Yes, namely we don't really like them that much.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 21/11/2013 18:35:05    1516260

hill16no1man

simply put because non of them countires were as successful in destroying and taking ownership of other countries to the scale britain has achieved and still to this day.
take a country is big as canada even the queen of england is still there head of state!!!


There are as many people in the world who speak Spanish as a first language as there are who speak English as a first language, infact I think there are slightly more native Spanish speakers. Why is that if they weren't as successful as the British at "destroying and taking ownership of other countries"?

By the way, Canada is one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world, only 35m people live there (which is very small considering it's size) and a quarter of them speak French as a first language, so I wouldn't bother bringing them into this!!!

hill either you don't know your history or you're ignoring the parts that don't suit you. My genuine advise to you is to stop harbouring hatred or dislike (whichever applies to you) towards British organisations/governments/monarchs because it doesn't do you or anybody else any good. Ps I'm aware that you said you have nothing again 90% of British people and I'm not accusing you of racism which brend called into question.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/11/2013 18:41:11    1516268

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hill16no1man

simply put because non of them countires were as successful in destroying and taking ownership of other countries to the scale britain has achieved and still to this day.
take a country is big as canada even the queen of england is still there head of state!!!


There are as many people in the world who speak Spanish as a first language as there are who speak English as a first language, infact I think there are slightly more native Spanish speakers. Why is that if they weren't as successful as the British at "destroying and taking ownership of other countries"?

By the way, Canada is one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world, only 35m people live there (which is very small considering it's size) and a quarter of them speak French as a first language, so I wouldn't bother bringing them into this!!!

hill either you don't know your history or you're ignoring the parts that don't suit you. My genuine advise to you is to stop harbouring hatred or dislike (whichever applies to you) towards British organisations/governments/monarchs because it doesn't do you or anybody else any good. Ps I'm aware that you said you have nothing again 90% of British people and I'm not accusing you of racism which brend called into question.

but does the spanish monarchy own all the countries still and the canadians cannot change there flag with the english queen aprovement so she is head of state thats all that matters she rules the country not frnch.
how dont I not know my history its you who is finding it tough not me,I never said you called me anything.
My opinions on british monarchy and army wont change because you tell me so as you not giving valid reasons for anything,did you read the link I posted it shows how there media have protected them for 40 years as of now that elemant are only being brought to the publics eye,if you think they should not be held liable for the atrocities thats your opinion but I fell they should like any other person who commits crimes.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 19:22:21    1516297

So I think we're veering slightly off topic. People are inferring that posters who are expressing reservations about Sky covering GAA, are against the games being shown by Sky in the UK. I don't think anyone is against that. But in all the articles reporting on this story, I haven't read anywhere that this discussion is restricted to the UK market. I guess its ambiguous at best, but it didn't seem to rule out the rights to GAA games in Ireland being sold to a private/paywall broadcaster. Can anyone provide a link that says this would be restricted to the UK market? The quote I read was that nothing was being ruled out:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=204748

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 21/11/2013 20:08:01    1516308

hill

Canada and some other ex-colonies still recognize Queen Elizabeth II as their Queen.....so what? She doesn't get to decide who the leader of Australia or Canada or New Zealand etc etc is, the people of those countries decide who their leaders are just like you and me decide who the leader of Ireland gets to be. Your freedom isn't in any way hindered by Canada's hypothetical inability to change their flag.

The suggestion that the British government/monarchy/army and media are the biggest terrorist organisations the world has ever seen is nonsense, plain, simple and utter nonsense.

I did read your link and I do think that those men should be held accountable for the terrible things they done but so should any republican/nationalist who done similar things up north. But just two other quick things on that 1) more important than bringing anybody to justice is maintaining peace up north, no sane persona wants a return to the troubles. Secondly I'm not going to hate current young members of the British army or government etc for things there where done in the 60s and 70s, they weren't even around then.

My opinions on british monarchy and army wont change because you tell me so as you not giving valid reasons for anything

There's no valid reason in the world that anybody can give you if your opinions are set in stone and you're unwilling reconsider them. I'm not going to change you so you can hate the British monarchy/army all you want but I can't see how it benefits you in any way.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/11/2013 20:10:41    1516310

It's a pity you didn't mean it, Damo, I thought it was a great joke. :-D

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 21/11/2013 20:17:22    1516313

Htaem

it shows the power they have over tat country through brainwashing from media and monarchy alike.
in this day and age people talk about the world moving forward,to still have a country the size of canada ruled by a fireign queen andin general the idea of monarchys in general in the 21st century is astonishing and a testament to how strong their media is at keeping people from understanding or indeed caring.

how is it nonsense did they or did they not invade them countires and causing terror on inncoent people?
they still reap the rewards to this day and somehow are getting away with along with america being classed as the worlds peacekeppers hahaha just shows the power of media again.

yes since our war of independance ended i agree nationalist criminals should be brought to justice too,but the problem there is that assocation are facless,its harder to find them criminals where as the british army has a face has aleader,has records of its soldiers and their is clear evidence of their crimes,yet they are not being brought to justice!!!
Its not about hate its about getting justice and not allowing thmselves and america to brianwash the world thats what I dont agree with.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/11/2013 20:46:43    1516331