And do premier sports get all the rugby, EPL, international soccer, boxing and basically any amount of high quality world sport along with it?
As it stands, most people are sports fans first and foremost. Many will have sky sports and then they will be shelling out on premier sports on top of that to see gaa.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/11/2013 15:10:32    1514797

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Kerry Tyrone last year is a perfect example. It clashed with a rugby league match or something so they didn't show it. And there hasn't been a single club match on so far this year. Sky would show everything they could. And more

do you hunestly believe if the gaa clashed with british based sports they would not do the same on sky sports as premier sports do?
they know they will get more viewers so they dont care

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/11/2013 16:51:12    1514840

exactly points by srb and mesmamis but it seems the common media tripe line still is labelled at anybody against sky owning the full rights to gaa matches as we are labelled dinosaurs or not wanting progress,well i for one would see it as regress if we already have the matches available in every home in the country to going to force people to have to pay an ooutside of ireland company a monthly subscription to wath the same thing,thats backwards not forwards and is forcing more money on people to support the gaa.
its amazing how people complain over the price of tickets being too high at 20 euro for all ireland quarter finals for example but yet dont see a problem with forcing people to buy a package they dont already need to watch our national sports

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/11/2013 16:59:08    1514849

Hill16 Sky have 4 channels and the red button option. No match would ever be deferred. This is something that the Irish in the UK should get a say in and from what has been said here, to a man they would opt for sky over premier sports

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 18/11/2013 17:07:58    1514855

And Hill16, I don't think you understand that Sky are not competing with RTE. They are look for the UK rights. If you live in Ireland it won't affect you

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 18/11/2013 17:12:58    1514864

mike03
has that been clarified for definate yet?
originaly that might be the case if its definate but can you see if it takes of in any shape or form them not trying to take over the rights entirely?
they wouldnt be happy until they had their way and then they would dictate times o matches to suit their scheaduales

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/11/2013 17:17:13    1514868

hill16no1man
mike03
has that been clarified for definate yet?

Has it been clarified for definite that it isnt? You seem full sure they are in competition. So much so that when someone makes a point about them not being in competition, you answer it like they are in competition - even though it has been specifically stated that they are not over and over.
Sky are looking to buy the UK package, and more power to them. I think they should get as many games as they are willing to pay for - because it isnt exclusive anyway. There are plenty of irish overseas. Plus they can offer the possibility of showing replays - something that, amazingly, doesnt happen on rte. For me, england has the queens speech every xmas, we should have a replay of the football and hurling finals every xmas. People would actually watch that for a start...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/11/2013 17:31:33    1514885

There are certain sports and sporting events that are designated as being available on non pay per view channels. GAA will always be one of them.

I can see SKY getting the UK rights as being a good thing because they will promote and present the sport in a professional way never before seen in relation to hurling and football. And if it gives RTE and TV3 the kick up the backside they need to improve their coverage then all the better

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 18/11/2013 17:57:47    1514904

Well said mike and the master.

Why would the GAA sell them the exclusive Irish rights?

And I don't see hill complaining about the national league being sold to setanta. i for one hope sky buy the gaa rights four the uk. 1 in every 3 english people have a direct irish relation. they could easily make a connection to the sport with sky promoting it.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 18/11/2013 18:22:47    1514914

mike03

if what you say is correct well then yes i would not have a problem with them getting the same deal that premier sports currently have but it would have to be on the concrete assurance that what you also say is correct about the certain sports events that have to pay shown on non pay for view stations making sure that they could not once they have feet under the carpet try and take over from our stations as sole brodcasters

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/11/2013 18:54:42    1514931

jack goff

well if they were offered bigger money then rte the mentality that this mckenna has it seems he would take it.
FYI I did have a problem with setanta getting league games as it ment i wouldnt see most of them games,luckily enough I actually go to all dublins matches so it didnt impact on me

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/11/2013 18:58:00    1514934

Where does it actually say that it would just be the UK rights to the games? I mean, that'd be great to get the games some coverage in Britain, but the quote in the article didn't seem to intimate that'd it be just limited to the UK market. Is there a better article for this story?
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=204748

Sky had a highlight package program for GAA in the 90's, hosted by Jimmy Magee, I'd hope for an improved effort.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 18/11/2013 19:30:50    1514950

18/11/2013 17:57:47
mike03
There are certain sports and sporting events that are designated as being available on non pay per view channels. GAA will always be one of them.

I can see SKY getting the UK rights as being a good thing because they will promote and present the sport in a professional way never before seen in relation to hurling and football. And if it gives RTE and TV3 the kick up the backside they need to improve their coverage then all the better Its only certain sporting events not sports that are designated as having to be on free to air channels. The All Ireland finals must be on free to air channels but not all GAA games. There's nothing set down by legislation from Government about all games

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/11/2013 20:16:15    1514978

Hill, what are you talking about when you say 'get their feet under the table'. How are they going to do that exactly? Fool the gaa? Hoodwink them? Get them with a few beers on board? They make a bid to the gaa, the gaa then decides what happens. The gaa are in control here, so if sky were to take all the rights, totally unlikely as it is, then the people to blame would be the gaa.

This anti-england stuff gets tiresome after a while.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 18/11/2013 20:27:06    1514988

the master

read ormonds post above and you will see what i mean,he states the only thing would be all ireland finals that must be shown on non paid tv stations,my point about feet under table said nothing about fooling gaa whatsoever and the gaa would obviously be selling out if they were to give them full rights, my point staed feet under the table as in have some gaa coverage under the belt as a starter to test the water and if it takes off they would want a monopoly on it,which would be bad for us the gaa supporters in ireland

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/11/2013 20:34:39    1514995

Hill but tradition has been only semi finals and finals to be shown on TV, would you have a problem with that?
It is widely accepted that over exposure of games has led to a downturn in attendees at matches. So buy either having to pay sky for privilege of watching games or get up off sofa and go to a few games. Its win win gaa get money from sky and increases in games
Sooner it happens the better.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/11/2013 21:12:12    1515023

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Hill but tradition has been only semi finals and finals to be shown on TV, would you have a problem with that?
It is widely accepted that over exposure of games has led to a downturn in attendees at matches. So buy either having to pay sky for privilege of watching games or get up off sofa and go to a few games. Its win win gaa get money from sky and increases in games
Sooner it happens the better.

what tradition has been to show only semi fnals and finals?
dont agree at all what over exposure of matches and the attendances were well up this ear on last year which were also up on the previous year.attendances are much more accountable due to state of economy,weather and promotion of games not tv coverage.
last part makes no sense at all pal haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/11/2013 21:32:23    1515043

very well said RD.

But I honestly think they'd only sell a few games such as TV3's Dublin games to sky and or give them exclusive coverage in the UK.

That can only be good.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 18/11/2013 21:54:00    1515061

royaldunne
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Hill but tradition has been only semi finals and finals to be shown on TV, would you have a problem with that?
It is widely accepted that over exposure of games has led to a downturn in attendees at matches. So buy either having to pay sky for privilege of watching games or get up off sofa and go to a few games. Its win win gaa get money from sky and increases in games
Sooner it happens the better.

Is it?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13817 - 19/11/2013 09:42:11    1515105

Indeed jack g.
It is only the UK market that is up for discussion at the minute. If sky want further rights that is between them and the gaa.

Hill sorry man thought you were older, around my vintage. The only games to be shown live on rte prior to circa 1990 (exact year eludes me) was the all ire semis and finals in both codes, no provincial finals let alone earlier rounds. If you wanted to see a game you went to it. 91 I think was the first preliminary rd shown live if memory again serves me right, the last game in Meath v Dublin saga ( someone can correct me if I'm wrong) I certainly know it was on the Saturday which at the time was unheard of.
Now someone may correct me on years etc, I didn't Google itso may be a year or two either side of 90 .

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/11/2013 09:57:49    1515111