Hill missing the point. Sky can and would offer so much more than the current set up. And from recent figures majority of homes has a sky dish, now of course it wouldn't have exclusive rights nor should it but yeah have a option to broadcast it to a greater viewing public. I have sky sports and would watch it in a heart beat on sky rather than the well below standard that is currently on offer.
It's' all about choice and just cause they are a Australian company makes no difference nor should it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/11/2013 17:10:42    1514396

Hill very few don't have sky dishes these days.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/11/2013 17:12:14    1514397

hill16no1man

so you feel its more important to show the games to people in britian then it is to the people of ireland who are the ones actualy play and attend the sport


Where did I say it was more important to show Gaelic games on British tv than Irish tv? what's the use in making stuff up? I can't continue to debate with you if you're just going to read my posts (although it looks like you're not reading my posts) and then decide on a whim that I said something completely different.

yes i understand why the gaa was set up,remembering it is important and should not be thrown out just because we are so many years free of british terror in this country which is only a short time space considering we had over 700 years of british terror on this island.

Again utterly irrelevant to the debate of whether or not Gaelic Games should be on Skysport and exactly why I accused you of living in the past.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 17/11/2013 17:21:26    1514402

I think sky are interested I. This Bt sports are beginning to buy a lot of sport rights over the summer leaving Sky with really only Cricket over the summer months. If they were to buy GAA rights they would have great live sport to show and promote which they have done so well through the years instead of just showing reruns of premier league years. It would also probably make back its money as a lot of Irish people give up sky over the summer as the premiership is over for the season and it would bring in new viewers to GAA, just look at how the company has built up Darts, Superleague and NFL from sports with very little interest and viewership to now being big parts of the SKY service. I would love to see what Sky would bring to the organisation and think it would be for the good.

lukewalsh96 (Cork) - Posts: 252 - 17/11/2013 17:32:31    1514405

@waynol thank you very much. I am tired of those who wheel out the patriatic bs at every jucture yet been hypocrits when it boils down to it. I bet hill and his kind were dancing around coppers in their british sponsored shirts with the british vodafone company logo on full display.
Don't get me wrong I congratulate dublin on getting millions from british and american companies. Just not those that want to play the poor paddy card when it suits them.
Again my post was not in anyway anti dubs, just those eluding that sky shouldn't be allowed near the gaa when they british company. Where was the moral nationalist outrage when a british company were throwing money to be emblased on the jersey.
Double standerds. Hate that

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 17/11/2013 17:43:36    1514413

Hill, People in Ireland don't get to watch the games on Irish TV for free that point is factually incorrect, As far as i'm aware you have to pay 160 euro a year for a TV licence and any household who doesn't hold an up to date TV licence is breaking the law. So don't give me that guff that its free to watch it on RTE, It isn't.

Your original post had a line in it that read "Do these guys realise anything about what the GAA was founded for and they want to hand the sport over to an organisation that is british", Your issue judging by that line is the fact Sky is based in Britain (They are infact an Australian company as someone already pointed out).. Which is ridiculous in this day and age. IRELAND (or at least the majority) have moved on.

The coverage of Gaelic games here by our national broadcaster is incredible average. Extreamely dull and boring. Amaturish. Its also important to remember that while people here may be able to watch gaelic games (Not for free I repeat), People who have had to leave the country to work find it very difficult to watch the games. Sky is the most professional broadcasting company in the world and their coverage of sports is amazing. Although this is an Irish game with Irish heritage, It is something that we should be proud of and given the chance should jump at the opportunity to promote our games not only to Irish people, But to promote and market Gaelic games all over the globe. SkySports are capable of marketing our games in a way that no Irish broadcasting network will ever be able to do.

Finally, I still think its unbelievably hypocritical to give out about the notion of SkySports, When Dublins two All Irelands have been achieved thanks in no small part to the 1 million euro per annum that Dublin received from BRITISH COMPANY Vodafone. Some of the best days of our lives watching the Dubs have come in the last 3 years and wouldn't have been possible if we didn't have Vodafone backing us. I know you or I certainly didn't care where the money was coming from once we saw our teams being successful.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 17/11/2013 18:03:38    1514425

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
I have absolutely no problems with anyone coming in and shaking the domestic cartel out of their collective lethargy that is the current set up for GAA coverage on this island. There was barely a week gone by without someone starting a thread on how bad the coverage/pundits/commentary/camera work was. I have no issue at all in the 21st century with a UK based company providing the coverage,it aint going to make our games any less Irish is it?

I think Brend, this is an attitude we're going to see more and more of, but its not necessarily based on the old attitude towards the British, or misplaced knee-jerk patriotism (well, in most cases). I think its more a symptom of familiarity starting to breed a little bit of contempt. You go into most pubs, hotels, public places, and its likely they'll have Sky on the TV. You fly into Dublin airport, most visitors first experience of Ireland, and its Sky on the TV's (and showing British programming, not Australian, lets be fair.) You go into most Irish cities and towns, and the high streets can be mostly filled with British shops and chains. I just read today that British chain pubs are looking to finally set up in Ireland in numbers (encouraged by low property prices apparently, not sure they've thought that through...).

Now, its not that there's anything wrong with any of those British institutions on their own, but I think its reaching a critical mass, and people are starting to get their backs up a little bit. But again, choice is good, and its ultimately up to the Irish public to vote with their cash, if people want to spend money on British goods and services rather than Irish ones, then thats that. Personally I don't, and I think its an important time to start retaining money in our own economy, rather than continue to be the FIFTH biggest contributor to the British economy in the world. I don't think we can afford it anymore. And for what its worth, I quite like RTE's hurling coverage when it happens, it just doesn't happen enough.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 17/11/2013 18:11:26    1514430

17/11/2013 17:32:31
lukewalsh96
County: Cork
Posts: 168

1514405
I think sky are interested I. This Bt sports are beginning to buy a lot of sport rights over the summer leaving Sky with really only Cricket over the summer months. If they were to buy GAA rights they would have great live sport to show and promote which they have done so well through the years instead of just showing reruns of premier league years. It would also probably make back its money as a lot of Irish people give up sky over the summer as the premiership is over for the season and it would bring in new viewers to GAA, just look at how the company has built up Darts, Superleague and NFL from sports with very little interest and viewership to now being big parts of the SKY service. I would love to see what Sky would bring to the organisation and think it would be for the good.

Excellent post.

Not only that but sky are one of very few worldwide companies that would and could pay very well for the privilege of showing the games.
Think what could be done with lucrative revenue from sky. Redevelopment of aughrim , newbridge , navan Louth and that's just in Leinster.
I grew up in a time when the only football games on TV was the semi finals and finals, so less of the parents couldn't watch it on TV, either get in sky or go to game. Not that it willbe a eexclusive deal anyway, but if we want to talk about tradition then tradition dictates that until recently vast majority of games were not on TV.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/11/2013 18:12:00    1514431

I don't have sky sports so I'm f**ked, and can't afford it either.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/11/2013 18:21:07    1514437

Forget the british stuff and answer the accesabilty issue , or is it not an issue for some because they can afford it ? Well isnt that just wonderfull the Celtic tiger Im all right kids are alive and well , as previously said of course alot of this is hypothetical , and if its in addition to national station fine , but Sky over time would not settle for an equal partner role , but Sky are intrested in one thing and one thing only the pound . As one poster put and its true theyd probably only want to show the Dubs and might I add hurling with an even smaller audience wouldnt get a look in .
The comparisons with " what they did for soccer are hilarious " they tapped into something that was allready there , across the world exisited fan clubs of soccer clubs many of whom routinely made the prilgrimage home , they saw an opportunity and in fairness exploited it , they brought a much sought product home to millions that were allready sold on it , does that sound like the GAA give me a break .Move on some say , its 2013 , that means exactly what ? Its the phrase used when someone hasnt a clue how to put across a resaonable argument and comes up with the move on chestnut , more exposure on TV is funny from some that wouldnt step inside a club house in a year suppose as its the only way they will get to see a game , no supprise why they argue that way .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 17/11/2013 18:36:17    1514442

Hopefully it might give RTE the reason to start showing a few league games. Sick of watching deffered games on tg4. Would even prefer sky got the rights to the league. You see the job they do advertising games like crystal palace vs wigan, they'd have croker sold out every week.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 17/11/2013 18:55:48    1514456

Great post damo, I agree with you 100% kiddo.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/11/2013 18:57:44    1514458

Marlon just a few things you may want to answer.
Is it solely British citizens that work in these high Street stores? Does all the wages paid to the employees of these companies go directly back to the UK economy?
Has boots, the let's be honest pharmacy that brought Sunday opening ( cause traditional pharmaceutical shops thought no Irish person needed a prescription or got sick on a Sunday , too busy at mass).
And just one thing what country is Ireland's no 1 exporter of goods too? Would it be those pesky Brits?
I mean how dare Witherspoon's come in here and create jobs for us , the cheek of them. Boycott I say let's be honest not one of the over 13% of population currently unemployed would dare take up a job with a British company.
Now lets all get together and say in one loud voice begone with ye heathans back to the queen and fire the over half a million people you employ here they can check that the praties aren't getting the blight after been contaminated by them black and tans.

And sure when your at it throw the yanks out too with their Google Microsoft Intel etc corrupting poor paddys eyes that he has to go to mass twice a day and confessions every Saturday. How dare they bring employment and wealth to this country.
The cheek.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/11/2013 19:04:42    1514459

Waynol, top post. Agree with every word.

From what I understand SKY are looking at the rights to show the games in the UK. We already have a UK TV company showing hames so what's the issue. I have a lot of family in the UK who have expressed delight in the fact that Sky may start showing games. They're are as a true a Gael as anyone in these shores and live the games as much but suffer because if their location a couple of 100 miles across the sea.

Sky do a top job promoting and covering games, anything that gives RTE a shake up is welcome in my eyes.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1520 - 17/11/2013 19:05:45    1514460

i think were long past selling out and tv coverage will be the last thing to sell.
counties selling names of stadiums huge sponsorships for jersey logos and of competions.
the game used about football/hurling.
now its about managers getting huge wages, people getting played as development coordinators, physios ect..
if sky come in and pay huge money only matter of time till we start paying players.IMO

tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 17/11/2013 19:15:06    1514466

Damothedub


I partially agree with you, certainly I don't think Sky should get exclusive rights straight away, in any case there's little or no chance of that happening so I wouldn't worry too much. But if the Gaa allowed Sky to show some championship games exclusively and a few along with RTE/TV3 at least then the Gaa could assess whether or not Sky have done any good for Gaelic Games.

If the numbers weren't adding up and Gaelic Games didn't take off in the slightest in the UK then the Gaa would have little to consider because Sky wouldn't be interested in obtaining exclusive rights anyway. On the other hand if they did take off then the Gaa would have an excellent opportunity to grow our games abroad, all I'm saying is don't knock the idea without considering it's potential merits.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 17/11/2013 19:16:18    1514467

Apart from not showing the League Finals (what a cock-up), Premier Sports has been very good this year.
Some days we have had more matches than shown in Ireland. Obviously the London involvement helped.
They have absolutely no advertising though and you don't know what they are showing until a couple of days before.
Sky will be more professional.

slippery (UK) - Posts: 3 - 17/11/2013 19:17:14    1514470

royaldunne
County: Meath

What a ridiculous, unthinking response to my post. I never said any of those things, and your hair-trigger soap-box response to anyone even mentioning Britain in a post is almost as bad as the shallow nationalism of the real anti-Brit parade. Its just replacing one narrow-minded insular attitude with another. And worse, its trying to create bigotry and hatred where there actually is none.

And to answer your question, i.e.

And just one thing what country is Ireland's no 1 exporter of goods too? Would it be those pesky Brits?

No. Per country, it would be the USA, by a considerable margin. Belgium consumes roughly the same amount of our exports as Britain does. And overall, the eurozone consumes the vast majority of our exports.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 17/11/2013 19:21:31    1514474

R.T.E will be covering all Test cricket matches in return!!

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 17/11/2013 19:24:22    1514480

royaldunne
dodnt agree that most have sky dishes,most dont have sky sports anyway unlike rte every household gets it,so much bigger exposure with rte then sky sports.
the target market for the gaa is ireland not britain afterall,the championship takes place here.
you have avery inferiror attitude if you would automatcially watch the gaa coverage on sky sports ahead of rte despite not even knowing if they have better cmmentary or analysis surely you would have to see who is on their coverage they could be a lot worse if anything.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/11/2013 19:26:36    1514482