Who would ye drop for Higgins lads?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2013 20:07:24    1505194

Keith Higgins should have been included,also Martin Dunne included in a rearranged full forward line. I think the All Stars is an opportunity to recognise outstanding players in other counties who have made significant progress in the championship. Frequently, in the past as little as four counties had players included in the All Star team, with the All-Ireland finalists getting up to 13 players. I think with the back door system there should be an opportunity to have more counties represented in the All-Star team. Recognition should also be given to games played in the League.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 602 - 23/10/2013 20:12:01    1505197

i agree with fainelog
it is called footballer of the year not football of the championship the year starts in january not june

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/10/2013 20:17:23    1505205

fainleog
County: Limerick
Posts: 32

1505033 There are no teams of the standard of Meath, Kildare, Laois or indeed Wexford, Westmeath in Munster. I wish they were.The facts are many teams have won the Leinster Chanpioship in the last sixty years.


Lets talk about 2013. The facts of the matter are that two teams can win Munster - only one can win Leinster. It shows how bad things are gone in Leinster when some Meath fans on here were delighted with a seven point loss to Dublin this year.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 23/10/2013 20:34:12    1505212

Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
Posts: 4937

1505013 Seds
"With the greatest respect Liam that is rubbish. Dublin stolled through Leinster this year beating their nearest rivals by 16 points and then beat Meath by 9 points pulling up. So one could argue that Dublin have it easy up the 1/4 finals. IMO Macauley is an fantastic athlete but not a fantastic footballer. He has a great engine but is not blessed with the vision and skills that Gooch has.

Dublin are finding just as easy in leinster as Kerry and Cork are in Munster."

I would not argue that for a second. MDMA is many things, but a natural footballer he aint!! But to compare him to Cooper is completely apples and oranges. One is an industrious engine at MF the other is arguably the greatest footballer to ever play the game. Colm should have 3 POTY awards by now and the fact he has none is simply a jokeshop, but, each year should be judged on its own merits, and each player should also be judged on his personal contribution, and to say Colm had a more influential year on the championship than MDMA is, to use your own words Seds, Simply Rubbish.


Rubbish? And that is despite the fact that the majority on here reckoned Cooper should be POTY? They talk rubbish because they didn't pick MDM?

I never rubbished the fact that you picked MDM - I rubbished your theory that Kerry have it easier. Thats simply not true because Dublin have an easier passage in Leinster. Like Tipperary, Limerick and Clare the also rans in Leinster need to up their game by a massive amount to put it up the Dubs. The facts peak for themselves.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 23/10/2013 20:41:06    1505215

I am one of the ones who agrees that Cooper (or Sean Cavanagh) should get the POTY award.

Of those nominated, I'd pick MDMA.

I honestly believe Gooch has been intentionally omitted as he is a good enough attraction (money spinner) for the GAA without an award. It is a similar reason to the way Cluxton is bigged up by the media at every opportunity. Funnily enough, he should never have got nominated!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5271 - 23/10/2013 20:56:28    1505226

sedico

did you choose to ingore my post because it made sense?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/10/2013 21:00:54    1505228

Maybe they could have a seperate provincial allstar awards, it wouldn't cost a whole pile to the GAA and 4 times as many players could get honored in a year and then use that 60 players as the platform to chose the final 15.. So then a player could have Munster allstar or an ulster allstar ext ext.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2013 21:05:10    1505231

Sedico - In recent years Meath, Kildare and Laois have run Dublin close. This year Dublin are deserving All-Ireland champions. They played the best football but next year is another year. Other teams like Kerry,Cork,Mayo,Donegal and Tyrone will be hoping to dethrone Dublin. Why cant teams in Leinster like Meath or Kildare have the same aspiration. Other teams in Leinster have won the All-Ireland in the past and will do so again. It is not too long ago when Meath were dominant in Leinster and prior to that Offally. Dublin certainly have a lot going for them at present and are on an upward curve.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 602 - 23/10/2013 21:05:38    1505232

sedico

in the last 13 years dublin have been beaten by four counties in leinster
kildare,meath,laois and westmeath.
cork and kerry have not been beaten once by any other county in munster since 1992

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/10/2013 21:16:59    1505235

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 6264

1505228 sedico

did you choose to ingore my post because it made sense?

Quite the opposite in fact.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 23/10/2013 21:19:53    1505237

fainleog
County: Limerick
Posts: 33

1505232 Sedico - In recent years Meath, Kildare and Laois have run Dublin close. This year Dublin are deserving All-Ireland champions. They played the best football but next year is another year. Other teams like Kerry,Cork,Mayo,Donegal and Tyrone will be hoping to dethrone Dublin. Why cant teams in Leinster like Meath or Kildare have the same aspiration. Other teams in Leinster have won the All-Ireland in the past and will do so again. It is not too long ago when Meath were dominant in Leinster and prior to that Offally. Dublin certainly have a lot going for them at present and are on an upward curve.


Of course the likes of Kildare aspire to win Leinster. However at the moment its not a realistic aspiration. Do you honestly believe that if I came on here proclaiming Kildare would win Leinster next year, I wouldn't be ridiculed and accused of having delusions of grandeur? I'm a realist - I just can't see it happening.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 23/10/2013 21:23:24    1505240

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 6264

1505235 sedico

in the last 13 years dublin have been beaten by four counties in leinster
kildare,meath,laois and westmeath.
cork and kerry have not been beaten once by any other county in munster since 1992


You better check your records so.

Hint: 2003

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 23/10/2013 21:30:19    1505243

Kildare are a top eight team at present. Four years ago Donegal were not a top eight team and last year they won the All-Ireland. Donegal are now in Division two. It is only a short number of years that Dublin were trounced by Kerry and Tyrone and now Dublin are champions.Fortunes can change quickly.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 602 - 23/10/2013 21:47:59    1505255

kingdomboy...Who would ye drop for Higgins lads?
Every single one of them!

beal (Mayo) - Posts: 1388 - 23/10/2013 21:54:43    1505261

How can our contributors justify 5 Mayo players on this team, shocking, they played nothing in Connaught, slaughtered a beaten docket in Donegal, just about overcame Tyrone (who were stuffed by Donegal) and yet again failed to show up in an AI Final. 4 defenders got on this team when they only had to defend against 2 teams all championship, Tyrone and Dublin, just absolutely nothing stood out to justify this. An O'Connor gets on at corner forward for scoring all those tap-in goals in games where Mayo were annihilating teams. OK, he got injured against Tyrone but he did nothing in the final when you want real men to stand up. A complete injustice that the great Keith Higgins was omitted when 5 other Mayo players who wouldn't lace his boots were selected.

Salmanneile (Longford) - Posts: 113 - 24/10/2013 09:40:17    1505304

Beal even gooch?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/10/2013 10:05:20    1505321

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 6264

1505235 sedico

in the last 13 years dublin have been beaten by four counties in leinster
kildare,meath,laois and westmeath.
cork and kerry have not been beaten once by any other county in munster since 1992


Yet another Dub making things up to try and prove a point. Clare beat Cork in 97 and Limerick did in 03

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 24/10/2013 12:58:02    1505430

Explain to us admin why your letting Dublin poster make things up to back up points?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 24/10/2013 13:09:47    1505446

moomoo
County: Kerry
Posts: 3456

1505446 Explain to us admin why your letting Dublin poster make things up to back up points?


The fact that your anti Dub ramblings are let through is a lot worse , even for other counties posters to have to keep reading.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 24/10/2013 18:10:38    1505647