Mickey Harte should have no opinion on the Dublin/Kerry game, I would think he'd be more worried about his own team going out of gas after 30 minutes of an All Ireland final.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 07/09/2013 13:31:29    1477044

semi final even

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 07/09/2013 13:33:41    1477047

Poor Mickey, not allowed an opinion any more without being bitter. There are a lot of things I don't agree with Mickey Harte on, but this time I think he's got it spot on.

EnolaGay (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 07/09/2013 13:35:21    1477049

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Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 07/09/2013 14:00:48    1477066

Last Sunday's game was a classic.

I thing it is time to remember that the future of the GAA is more important than any individual county. I know that in my own county attendances at club games have greatly decreased over the past number of years, because all people want to see is a decent game of football.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 409 - 07/09/2013 14:32:40    1477084

It was a great game of football, it may not have been the best but it was fast paced and exciting to watch.Kerrys first half forward performance was worth the admission price alone. Mickey Harte is an excellent tactician , he has correctly pointed out that there was some shoddy defending at times . I dont think the final will be so open.

spmccann (Dublin) - Posts: 209 - 07/09/2013 14:47:33    1477098

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You make a fair and legit point, when the Dubs win a classic then "it's the best ever", but it just boils down to simple maths really. There's 6 million + people in the 32 counties and 1 million + are from Dublin so obviously they're going to claim that it was the best game ever, that means 1 in 6 Gaa people on this Island probably believe that it was the best ever, followed in 2nd by Dublin v Kerry 77, you won't hear too many Dubs claiming the Mayo game in 06 was the best ever!

Ps, last Sunday still was a great game and I think Harte comes across as being quite bitter in his article, I heard him on the radio last Tuesday aswell and he was fine for the most part but his comments on the game were a little on the sour side I thought.


your wrong there.
i have always said the dublin v mayo semi final in 06 was the best match i was ever at.
but last sunday topped it for me.the score taking and the full 70 minutes of non stop football was all round better then 06 semi final.
77 semi final apart i do believe this is probably the only classic labelled match dublin have ever won so i dont get your point.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/09/2013 15:15:10    1477113

Harte makes valid points, particularly about Coopers' trip. Cynical fouling is cynical fouling, the black card won't sort it out. You don't have to rugby tackle a player to slow down a team's momentum, there are plenty of dirty tricks available.

Kieran Shannon, now training the Mayo footballers suggested it some years ago but a team foul rule comparable to what exists in basketball would suit the game much better. It's the sheer number and frequency of fouls that kills the game. Introduce a foul count where an automatic free-kick on the 20 is awarded against any team that commits five consecutive fouls. It would require the referee or an assistant to tally any fouls on the pitch but it wouldn't be difficult to do.

Harte could have at least mentioned what a great game it was...

HighKing81 (Meath) - Posts: 129 - 07/09/2013 15:45:07    1477135

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You miss the point Jimmy. I thought it was a hugely enjoyable game, it had nearly everything, great scoretaking, drama, Gooch at his sublime best etc etc. What it didn't have was great defending, which is as much part of the game as anything else.

Each to his own, but I enjoy watching a great defensive performance as much as a great attacking performance. It doesn't have the fireworks but for the true purist good defending is an integral part of Gaelic games & should be celebrated not denigrated as happens too often on these pages.

what that translates as Muckross , im gonna stick up for my teams tactics that won us an allireland. :)

It doesn't translate into anything AthCliath, I'm simply saying that different people enjoy different aspects of the game & that we shouldn't denigrate something just because we don't appreciate it.
As I said in my post, I thought it was a hugely enjoyable game with much to admire especially from an attacking point of view. I just don't think the defending was of the same high standard. I am not disrespecting anyone & if I see the same overall standard in the final then I will be very happy indeed.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 07/09/2013 16:16:21    1477157

It was a very entertaining game, I don't think anyone would dispute that, but either there are the same rules and standards for ALL or there is duplicity, hypocrisy and a two tier GAA so what do people want? There was great entertainment on show but many posters seem to believe that is carte blanche to completely ignore, bury and stifle debate on those incidents that broke the rules. You cannot pull up players like Sean Cavanagh and teams like Tyrone and Donegal for EVERY misdemenour, minor or major, they do; have endless media and forum 'outraged' show trials where they are deemed guilty whatever THEN expect the same teams, managers and fans to be quiet when they see complete double standards being applied; in any sport that is just totally unfair and questions the integrity of that sport and the authorities running it.
There has been an awful lot of arrogant, condescending, sneering talk after last Sunday's game and I have to say to say the Dublin management team ,especially Jim Galvin, have been responsible for much of it. All week Jim has been coming came out with stuff like "the way the game should be played" and "Kerry/Dublin restoring pride in the game again" and all that.
There has been a real touch of gloating and put down of the past 10 years and that's just inaccurate, offensive nonsense. There is a strong feeling, particularly in Ulster and the North if the sports pages and comment lines are anything to go by, that there is massive hypocrisy at play and effectively two Associations in operation. People say it's not about geography and anti-Northern feeling; many up here disagree. Armagh and Tyrone were branded the nouveau riche upstarts when they won their titles and there was a real antipathy and begrudgement displayed towards them. These teams contained superb players like Oisin McConville, Stevie McDonnell, Ronan Clarke, Diarmuid Marsden, Kieran McGeeney, the McEntees, Peter Canavan, Stephen O'Neill, Brain Dooher, Philip Jordan, Brian McGuigan, Owen Mulligan etc so all the bad mouthing and negativity can't have been about talent or ability. Could people tell us what the reasons are then if not 'geography and Nordie outsiders'?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9829 - 07/09/2013 16:21:11    1477162

amazing how harte is blinkered himself.
he talks about johnny coopers tackle now yes he fouled him but was clearly going for the ball while in the mean time anthony maher strikes stephen cluxton in the face off the ball and only recieves a yellow card wheres hartes consitency as a strike to the face is a straight red card,seems he is the same as the guys he is giving out about and only sees what he wants himself

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/09/2013 16:28:32    1477166

Maher was going for the ball as well it's just cluxtons head was soooo big it totally covered the ball, I think we should appeal that second yellow. And McMahon should probably miss the final for kicking the greatest footballer of our generation in the head while he was lying on the ground, it was dirt of the highest degree.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/09/2013 17:11:40    1477193

The defending in the Dublin-Kerry match wasn't of a poor standard. The attacking play was of an absolutely magnificent standard.

Greatest game of all-time in my view.

TonyGreen (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 07/09/2013 17:13:00    1477195

Harte completely right,decent game but blown out of proportion

wayne10 (Louth) - Posts: 137 - 07/09/2013 17:40:17    1477210

It was a bloody brilliant game, far better than decent. Very entertaining stuff.
The criticism Tyrone received this year stung Harte so he was always going to get a bit jealous when two other teams received praise.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 07/09/2013 17:48:16    1477214

it was not a brilliant game...mickey harte is spot on...some woeful defending does not make this a brilliant game...get some perspective

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 07/09/2013 19:29:14    1477261

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it was not a brilliant game...mickey harte is spot on...some woeful defending does not make this a brilliant game...get some perspective

But the defending wasn't bad.Its alot easier to defend when you put 12 men in their own half for most of the game, when teams play more attacking football more space is opened up in defence and therefore there are more scores. The quality of the attacking play was so good even the tightest of defences would have struggled to deal with the forwards.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 07/09/2013 20:12:53    1477293

last weeks game was a classic without doubt to me anyway,but mickey makes valid points which i hope jim gavin will sort out before the 22nd.

D5dub (Dublin) - Posts: 283 - 07/09/2013 20:15:19    1477297

It was a terrible game. I'm sure people far more enjoyed the Tyrone minors giving an exhibition of all that's great about gaelic football. I am certain they did.....

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 07/09/2013 20:49:14    1477318

Is it not your team too GetOverTheBar?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 07/09/2013 21:16:11    1477334