...do you look for trouble.

Maybe some of your points are valid but comes across as bitter.

Or simply stirring it like Brolly?

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witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 06/09/2013 14:26:38    1476587

I refer you to Colm Parkinsosn article this week in the Indo, there is NO right or wrong way to play our game, regardless of how the "experts" on RTE would have you think otherwise. Mickey Harte is absolutley right to point out this fact, lets now wait for the inevitable storm of abuse from the "purists".

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 06/09/2013 14:33:33    1476594

It comes across as bitter imo.
It was a beautiful game ( far from perfect mind) but all Harte wants to talk about is juvenile defending.
The performances last Sunday at Croker took intelligence, composure and class and should be applauded.
There was cynicism though, from both teams, hes right about that part.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 06/09/2013 14:34:00    1476595

It was a great game - however there are and have been better. Personally the Mayo-Dublin semi in 2006 for me was better than Dublin Kerry last week.

tribeinbrum (Galway) - Posts: 4155 - 06/09/2013 14:37:39    1476597

Hard not to agree with the points he outlines.. However there is no doubt it was a great spectacle and was highly entertaining.. Mickey obviously enjoys a more tactical grind and that is reflected in his teams approach.. Everyone to their own preference.. Its hard to say this guy is wrong with the success he has had at underage and senior level

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1223 - 06/09/2013 14:38:15    1476600

"No particular concern was expressed about the fact that Colm Cooper was foot tripped and consequently deprived of an excellent goal chance after 55 minutes. "Neither was there any focus on the fact that the perpetrator would have picked up a second yellow card, the Kingdom would have reclaimed the lead by two points and the eventual winners would have been down to 14 men for the last vital 15 minutes."

But there was both by the panelists at the game and later that night. He is right you see what you want to see himself included.

The media "gushing" after last weeks game was as a result of the afwul crap being served up for years so when a half-decent game comes along its the best since records began.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4956 - 06/09/2013 14:40:59    1476601

Agree with brendtheredhand no correct way to play the game despite what Spillane and co would have us believe.

Ultan. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 78 - 06/09/2013 14:41:16    1476602

"For sure, this was a great contest, but was it that good?"


Yes Mickey it was that good, people love to see good scores and there were good scores aplenty last sunday, yes the defending wasn't top notch and there was plenty of cards issued etc etc BUT it was a great game to watch.

Of course Harte is going to challenge good open contests because his philosophy is to contain the opposition, 1st priority is stop the other team scoring. Dublin and Kerry prefer to go all out attack and win regardless of what the other team puts past them, no matter what you say that tactic is far more interesting and enjoyable to watch.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 06/09/2013 14:41:22    1476604

The common denominator between the so called greatest games ever played Dublin-Kerry 2013 and Dublin-Kerry 1977 was that Dublin won them... If Kerry had won I wonder would the be trumpeted as much by the press?

I also agree that Mayo-Dublin in 06 was a more quality and exciting affair that last week. But the Dubs lost so it's resigned to history!

Tyrone-Armagh semi Final in 2005 was not as open a spectacle as Dublin-Kerry 77, 13 or Mayo/Dub 06 but it was gripping and intense

god (Westmeath) - Posts: 90 - 06/09/2013 14:45:59    1476607

Really arock, there was an absolutely cracking game in the 1st round of Ulster this year between Derry and Down, universally enjoyed by all who watched it, how quickly that was forgotten by one and all in the scramble to shower the aristocrats of the GAA with plaudits. There truly is a class system running through the very heart of the GAA.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 06/09/2013 14:47:24    1476609

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I refer you to Colm Parkinsosn article this week in the Indo, there is NO right or wrong way to play our game, regardless of how the "experts" on RTE would have you think otherwise. Mickey Harte is absolutley right to point out this fact, lets now wait for the inevitable storm of abuse from the "purists".

So we have the purists and the pukes , couldn't put it better myself , but your 100% there is NO right or wrong way , and if 30 odd teams decide to play with 15 men behind the ball thats up to them , no one from any other county has a right to dictate tactics to anyone as long as game is played within the rules then its a style choice , my problem is that equally I reserve the right to have an opinion on styles as a fan , and when I show preference for free flowing style its theres an inevitable storm of abuse from the pukes ,

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 06/09/2013 14:47:40    1476610

Harte is right to make those points but it was a great game of football....I mean people would rather watch that than all the pulling and dragging of "some" counties in the other games this summer...also it seems like sour grapes from Mickey, I don't thick Cooper from Dublin deserved to be sent off and apparently Mickey does, that's his opinion. (The Tyrone minors got away with too much nonsense btw. but I hope they play more positively in the final, they reaped the rewards of abandoning plan A for the last 15 minutes against Ros.)

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1759 - 06/09/2013 14:48:00    1476611

He has a point re the cynical. If a Tyrone man decided to go for a spin on his opponents back while leading by a goal there would be total uproar.

ExiledinDublin (Mayo) - Posts: 131 - 06/09/2013 14:49:31    1476615

Pukes? I'm not familiar with that term Damo, perhaps you might want to elaborate on that for us mere GAA mortals?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 06/09/2013 14:50:52    1476616

There is no right way to play the game - true. There are better ways though...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 06/09/2013 14:52:37    1476618

I think Mickey Harte has a point. However on the Pat Kenny show earlier this week he criticised Brolly for not pointing out cynical fouls and poor play in Dublin v Kerry. Brolly was actually trying to make that point right after the game and he was drowned out by Spillane.

The Kerry v Dublin game last week was a cracker but not the best game ever. Definitely not as good as Mayo v Dublin 2006 or Tyrone v Kerry 2005.

One good thing about last Sunday's game is that Roy Curtis wrote a big article in the Sunday World with the theme 'this will be no shootout'. And then it was ........ there are good journalists, bad ones, then there's Roy Curtis ......

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6494 - 06/09/2013 14:54:27    1476619

So we should all play to the Mayo/Dublin template now TheMaster? Is it not good to have some attacking teams and some defensive teams. Makes things interesting with different styles of play IMO.

Ultan. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 78 - 06/09/2013 14:57:19    1476624

Indeed there are TheMaster. Perhaps if teams adopt a more attacking mode rather than glorified rugby league, more people will watch it and enjoy it.

And yes, Mayo/Dublin 2006 was certainly right up there with the best games of all time. Common denominator with last Sunday was the attitudes of the teams involved. Hopefully, the final will be a repeat. Different outcome obviously :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 06/09/2013 14:58:39    1476626

god


You make a fair and legit point, when the Dubs win a classic then "it's the best ever", but it just boils down to simple maths really. There's 6 million + people in the 32 counties and 1 million + are from Dublin so obviously they're going to claim that it was the best game ever, that means 1 in 6 Gaa people on this Island probably believe that it was the best ever, followed in 2nd by Dublin v Kerry 77, you won't hear too many Dubs claiming the Mayo game in 06 was the best ever!

Ps, last Sunday still was a great game and I think Harte comes across as being quite bitter in his article, I heard him on the radio last Tuesday aswell and he was fine for the most part but his comments on the game were a little on the sour side I thought.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 06/09/2013 14:59:00    1476628

Ultan, your own county went nearly an entire half against Cavan, not only not scoring, but hardly even attempting to score. You would hardly beleive that they were playing the same game as Dublin and Kerry and Mayo and Cork. And I don't mean to be offensive saying that. It is the truth.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 06/09/2013 15:01:34    1476631