tinrylandman

but would he open his curtains to watch an irish soccer match in volving bohenimans or rovers or is it a english soccer only mentality

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/09/2013 19:48:58    1474451

If he's from Inchicore then he's more than likely a Pat's fan.

I wouldn't open my curtains to watch Shams either.

Roaring abuse out the window without actually having to look at them would be alright though.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 03/09/2013 20:08:59    1474467

if in doubt

thats what i ment to watch pats v bohs/rovers
oh and watching swansea v hull or arsenal v spurs is so much more exciting forgive me but i cannot see it.
at least i can relate to what pats v bohs/rovers means to the supporters

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/09/2013 20:38:37    1474499

03/09/2013 19:47:45
hill16no1man
ormond, so basicaly what your saying is they count how many tvs are tuned into the sunday game not how many people are watching a tv at a certain time?
as you could never have an accurate number as you dont know if a person has 3 or 4 people over watching a match with them the same as a pub you never know the amount of people in a pub watching a match It is as accurate a method as you will find. What would you recommend as a method for gathering viewing figures that's better than what the experts have devised and used for years?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/09/2013 20:49:54    1474516

hill16no1man, do you follow any other sports or are you completely single minded?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 03/09/2013 20:51:32    1474517

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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thats what i ment to watch pats v bohs/rovers
oh and watching swansea v hull or arsenal v spurs is so much more exciting forgive me but i cannot see it.
at least i can relate to what pats v bohs/rovers means to the supporters

Well it'd be of a higher standard unfortunately than any League of Ireland match in terms of player fitness and technical ability, I'd certainly agree though that that shouldn't necessarily equate to a more exciting game than a Dublin derby.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 03/09/2013 21:02:43    1474534

There's nothing like a big Dublin derby! A very enjoyable trip to Inchicore last Friday night and what could prove to be a big point!

We Are Bohs!

I'd be surprised if I open my curtains and saw the Homeless Hoops playing..........then again they do get around!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13838 - 04/09/2013 10:42:30    1474741

Hill16 Did you bother to ask him if he goes to LOI OR DID YOU JUST ASSUME

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 04/09/2013 17:10:12    1475201

Know him reasonably well African Gael and he would not be shy about making his own views known believe me! He had insisted that one screen keep showing the London soccer even though as far as I could see no-one else was watching it.

I am old enough to recall when 'the gah' was laughed at in Dublin before 1974 so what's good for the goose, and so on...

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 04/09/2013 21:53:01    1475443

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 5627

im not recommending or complaining about anything.
all i stated was that theres no possible way of getting an accurate figure of how many watches a tv.
the figures they give therefore are the amount of tvs not people tuned into the match.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/09/2013 12:00:34    1475605

AfricanGael
County: UK
Posts: 470

1474517
hill16no1man, do you follow any other sports or are you completely single minded?

obviously i do when i am commenting on IRISH SOCCER,or maybe you dont know pats,bohs,rovers are all IRISH SOCCER SIDES.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/09/2013 12:02:17    1475608

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 246

1475201
Hill16 Did you bother to ask him if he goes to LOI OR DID YOU JUST ASSUME

bit hard when it was hurlingdub was talking to him not me haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/09/2013 12:02:54    1475610

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 5773

im not recommending or complaining about anything.
all i stated was that theres no possible way of getting an accurate figure of how many watches a tv.
the figures they give therefore are the amount of tvs not people tuned into the match.

Hill I'd be absolutely amazed if over one million tv's were tuned into the match last Sunday.

As far as the accuracy of the figures goes there's definitely scope for criticism of the system used. Does it include people watching online instead of on a tv? Or people watching through apps on a phone?

I've never met anybody who keeps a diary about what they watch, I'd guess the sample demographic used might need to be bigger, especially now with a variety of channels / cables subscriptions available.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 05/09/2013 12:10:01    1475617

Chap in question does not go to any LOI games or Ireland matches African Gael. They'd only be "crap" you see. Sport for him only exists on TV.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 05/09/2013 12:23:21    1475629

if in doubt

well the point im mkaing is you could easily get the minimum amoutn of people watching
as all you would have to do is count the amount of tvs which were tuned into the match.
thats why im saying thats probably where the figures come from.
but getting an accurate figure would be impossible,how can you tell how many watch a tv that given time.
ormond says pub viweings would be impossible to predict but there no differant to home viewings only they would have more in their pub then at home

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/09/2013 12:35:42    1475645

05/09/2013 12:00:34
hill16no1man
ormondbannerman, im not recommending or complaining about anything.
all i stated was that theres no possible way of getting an accurate figure of how many watches a tv.
the figures they give therefore are the amount of tvs not people tuned into the match. But the current method is about as accurate a method as you will find and it is a group of people who's views are taken as the whole populations viewers. It is accurate way of finding how many watch programmes/matches on tv

05/09/2013 12:10:01
if_in_doubt
Hill I'd be absolutely amazed if over one million tv's were tuned into the match last Sunday.
As far as the accuracy of the figures goes there's definitely scope for criticism of the system used. Does it include people watching online instead of on a tv? Or people watching through apps on a phone?
I've never met anybody who keeps a diary about what they watch, I'd guess the sample demographic used might need to be bigger, especially now with a variety of channels / cables subscriptions available. I don't think it does include amount watching online or through apps but even now with the wide enough spread use of smart phone's there would not be much watching through these devices in proportion to the entire population. I don't think the sample size is too small. AFAIK its just over 1000 homes. How much bigger do you think the range of people/homes queried on tv habits should be?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/09/2013 12:36:48    1475646

I swear to ye I would not no Messi if he stood in front of me right now!....Honestly!
But I have promised myself I will go to an LOI match some day just to see if there is any atmosphere or whatever at it.
Can you pay into those game with cash on the gate?

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 05/09/2013 12:38:03    1475650

Snufalufagus
County: Dublin
Posts: 6643

I swear to ye I would not no Messi if he stood in front of me right now!....Honestly!
But I have promised myself I will go to an LOI match some day just to see if there is any atmosphere or whatever at it.
Can you pay into those game with cash on the gate?

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

MesAmis will hook ya up with a seat in the directors area in Dalymount and access to the members bar before and after as you wish.

It's less prawn and crackers and more Eddie Rockets and crabs when compared to what you're used to though I'd say.

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 5628

I don't think it does include amount watching online or through apps but even now with the wide enough spread use of smart phone's there would not be much watching through these devices in proportion to the entire population. I don't think the sample size is too small. AFAIK its just over 1000 homes. How much bigger do you think the range of people/homes queried on tv habits should be?

Well I definitely think it should be a lot bigger than 0.06% of the total number of households in the country. It can't seriously be only 1,000 houses can it? There's no way you could a good spread of demographics with a number that small.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 05/09/2013 12:53:20    1475671

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 5773

im not recommending or complaining about anything.
all i stated was that theres no possible way of getting an accurate figure of how many watches a tv.
the figures they give therefore are the amount of tvs not people tuned into the match.

Hill I'd be absolutely amazed if over one million tv's were tuned into the match last Sunday.

As far as the accuracy of the figures goes there's definitely scope for criticism of the system used. Does it include people watching online instead of on a tv? Or people watching through apps on a phone?

I've never met anybody who keeps a diary about what they watch, I'd guess the sample demographic used might need to be bigger, especially now with a variety of channels / cables subscriptions available.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 05/09/2013 12:57:17    1475673

??? No idea what just happened above there admin

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 5783

well the point im mkaing is you could easily get the minimum amoutn of people watching
as all you would have to do is count the amount of tvs which were tuned into the match.
thats why im saying thats probably where the figures come from.
but getting an accurate figure would be impossible,how can you tell how many watch a tv that given time.
ormond says pub viweings would be impossible to predict but there no differant to home viewings only they would have more in their pub then at home

It's next to impossible alright, unless you county up the number of tv's actually tuned into a channel then you can't make a realistic guess at how many people would be watching. The thing with pubs is it would be difficult in terms of pubs showing different channels on different tv's, if they have GAA on one and football on the other would they just half the estimated number of customers?

I just think for a country of just over 1.5 million households, a figure of over 1 million tv's tuning in for the match would definitely on the high side.

I've no idea how they work out the actual figures they give? An average number of tv's tuned in multiplied by the average number of occupants per household maybe? Unless they just count every tv tuned in and just give future figures as the number of tv's tuned in instead of average amounts of viewers it might be easier.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 05/09/2013 13:08:50    1475691