Here here, rareauldtimes. A man of my own heart.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1711 - 01/09/2013 21:58:46    1472681

Great game but as has been said teams play to their strenghs.Dublins backs are dodgy and they miss an awfull lot of goal chances,I think Mayo will fancy their chances against them,and stop this Tyrone bashing,great team and a great manager in Mickey Harte,a true gentleman.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 01/09/2013 22:00:50    1472684

This forum is really getting crap. There some amount of pure tripe been spouted here. So much hatefulness on the site. Strange when CLG folk pride themselves on supporters mixing etc...

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 02/09/2013 08:31:46    1472693

If all football matches were played like that everybody would want to play and go to the games, well done to both teams it was some exibition of football.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/09/2013 08:54:31    1472712

Yes it was a hugely entertaining game, as enjoyable a game as I have seen in years. The foot passing, pace & score taking were exemplary & the result was in doubt right to the end. However it also has to be said that some of the defending was very poor & no matter what anyone says good defence is as much part of the game as anything else. It is certainly nothing to be sneered at.
Very few teams have all the talents at their disposal & every manager will take a look at what he has at his disposal & try to make the best of it. To criticise that seems to me to be naive.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 02/09/2013 09:19:35    1472728

Yes a magnificent game hugely exciting with some wonderful scores.People love attacking football and accurate kicking.A wonderful advertisement for football but there is no need to slag off other terrific teams with different styles.Donegal were magnificent in winning the 2012 All Ireland and Mickey Harts Tyrone even if you dont like their style won three great All Irelands.If they werent there Kerry would have dominated football even more than Kilkenny in the noughties.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1733 - 02/09/2013 09:58:43    1472758

There were plenty of cynical incidents int he game...

Kerry players standing in front of Cluxton before he kicked a ball

Dublin players jumping on backs at the end of the game

Cluxton getting poll axed

Cynical grabs of jersey's from both teams

I think it a wee bit off to describe it as some sort of pure pure form of goodness

There was a lot of niggle and gripe in that match...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/09/2013 10:04:18    1472765

Game was really enjoyable but I'm very disappointed in the manner of the loss.

Now, there's no shame in losing to a really good Dublin team, but that we lost in the same as in other years is tough. Armagh caught us at the end in '02, Tyrone caught us in '05 and Dublin in '11 and '13. Add in several other instances where Kerry have been in commanding positions only to fall asleep at the wheel and nearly get caught. In the same period have Kerry ever come from behind to win a big game (QF, SF or Final)??

kingdom_come (Kerry) - Posts: 83 - 02/09/2013 10:14:03    1472784

It must be said it was a really great game of football - the best spectacle we have seen all year and that is including the hurling. We seen dublin outgun kerry in a straight shootout - I think it is a shame that people are so set on concentrating on searching out negatives here, it comes across a bit biased in fairness. Most examples are being used to qualify something else that happened in another game. I could do the same myself with cluxton going down holding his face after being shouldered late. But why concentrate on that when the game was so good? It wasnt littered with these incidents, and you will always get a few of them. There was no game played like this all year, case closed as far as Im concerned. Ok, the cooper thing is a talking point, as is the mcmahon and ROC issues, as they could be revisited, but besides that it was a great game of football, and if more played like that our game would be the greatest show around.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 02/09/2013 10:45:06    1472828

kingdom_come
County: Kerry
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Game was really enjoyable but I'm very disappointed in the manner of the loss.

Now, there's no shame in losing to a really good Dublin team, but that we lost in the same as in other years is tough. Armagh caught us at the end in '02, Tyrone caught us in '05 and Dublin in '11 and '13. Add in several other instances where Kerry have been in commanding positions only to fall asleep at the wheel and nearly get caught. In the same period have Kerry ever come from behind to win a big game (QF, SF or Final)??

Bit harsh I would have thought- Kerry came from behind to win in a number of games in that time period- against Armagh in 2006, Monaghan in 2007, Galway in 2008, against Cork in the All-Ireland final in 2009. They also did it to Limerick in several Munster finals during that time period. Maybe even against Dublin in 2007? Difficult to remember.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 02/09/2013 11:00:11    1472852

rareauldtimes
Think you might have missed Gilroy as a negative manager in your opening statement, Dublin have to take a % of the blaime for the semi final as well

Anyway great game of football yesterday, some awful defending, gooch with a pinpoint pass to pick a man in 20 yards space for kerrys second goal;-) several missed goal chances, few dodgy decisions either way

Game of the championship so far

tonto21 (Donegal) - Posts: 181 - 02/09/2013 11:19:42    1472889

Had Kerry won this game it would have been described as a "good" game but as Dublin won it it has been elevated to "great" status at minimum, the "game of the decade" as a near given and "the greatest game ever played" in some quarters. What hyper hyperbole!!!

In my mind fitness edged out finesse, clout beat class, brawn beat brilliance and a blue tide swallowed up and engulfed the kingdom's princes of pigskin.

dingle2 (Kerry) - Posts: 278 - 02/09/2013 11:34:02    1472910

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dingle2
County: Kerry
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Had Kerry won this game it would have been described as a "good" game but as Dublin won it it has been elevated to "great" status at minimum, the "game of the decade" as a near given and "the greatest game ever played" in some quarters. What hyper hyperbole!!!

In my mind fitness edged out finesse, clout beat class, brawn beat brilliance and a blue tide swallowed up and engulfed the kingdom's princes of pigskin.

You keep telling yourself that pal. That Dublin team with the exception of Colm Copper is every bit of brilliant and skilful. Cooper is in a class of his own.

bluedubstar (Dublin) - Posts: 835 - 02/09/2013 13:44:34    1473085

dingle2
County: Kerry
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1472910 Had Kerry won this game it would have been described as a "good" game but as Dublin won it it has been elevated to "great" status at minimum, the "game of the decade" as a near given and "the greatest game ever played" in some quarters. What hyper hyperbole!!!

In my mind fitness edged out finesse, clout beat class, brawn beat brilliance and a blue tide swallowed up and engulfed the kingdom's princes of pigskin.

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In fairness I think 2011 was a better game! Dublin's 5 points in a row were absolute top drawer, best scores of the game in fact taken with great finesse. At most stages throughout that game Dublin had a higher number of scores on the board. The better team won. It's hard on Kerry fans I know and we have been there so many times before ourselves but sometimes you just have to admit that the better team won.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4746 - 02/09/2013 13:56:07    1473108

So dingle2, you don't think yesterdays game as a great game? 6 goals, lots of scores, dramatic finish, terrific atmosphere and it wasn't a great game?
I'd love to know what games actually do deserve the term great in that case?

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 02/09/2013 15:35:16    1473233

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Redfoot
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1472534 First 20 minutes were good until Dublin started playing blanket defense, pity they didnt have confidence in their 15 vs 15.

They also played a sweeper against Cork with Brian Cullen, but SHHHHHH! dont tell anyone, they are the saviors of football
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Ye're argument does not stand up. Dublin created plenty of scoring opportunities against Cork and again yesterday. It's understandable that any team will look to have their defence in order while also being able to attack when they have the ball. Dublin had the right balance between attack and defence. It was our place to unlock their defence. We did respond in the last 10 minutes to take the lead but hats off to Dublin for getting the scores to win the game.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8965 - 02/09/2013 18:25:32    1473443

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
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1472680 Redfoot
County: Cork
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1472534 First 20 minutes were good until Dublin started playing blanket defense, pity they didnt have confidence in their 15 vs 15.

They also played a sweeper against Cork with Brian Cullen, but SHHHHHH! dont tell anyone, they are the saviors of football
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Not that I care if we do decide to play a sweeper, but we havnt yet and id suggest ye rewatch the Cork game, Cullen droped around midfield to collect breaking balls. like Paddy Andrews at times yesterday and Connolly.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 02/09/2013 21:13:08    1473588

rareauldtimes
County: Dublin
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What a delight as a football supporter to see a game like today. Extra delight as a Dub that we have advanced to our second AI final in three years. Even more delight as today's game unlike our semifinal of two years ago could be classed as nothing more than an embarrassment to the game of Gaelic FOOTBALL. I hope the defensive team managers sit up (pretty much all the northern managers - step forward Messrs McGuinness and Harte)and watch and see that football played well can be really enjoyable.
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Typically short memory for a Dublin fan.I guess you don't remember the epic games of recent years were you were not the winners.In 2005 we played a magnificent game against Dublin in all Ireland quarter final,the game in which Eoin Mulligan scored that wonderful goal.Game ended 1-14 to 1-14.In the replay we came out winners on a 2-18 to 1-14 scoreline.Decent high scoring game by anybody's measure.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 02/09/2013 21:13:49    1473590

the only reason people thinking defending was bad was simply because neither side had 12 or 13 players behind the ball like we have seen tyrone,donegal and others do over last couple of years.
yesterday both teams played the game properly 15 on 15 and it was what football should be played like.
if you have 6 v 6 you will alwas give away more chances instead of having 12 or 13 back in your own half but it also means you will always create more chances too,thats what made the game so exciting.
no matter what some of ye on here say i know full well every gaa person would rather watch two teams try and outscore the other instead of trying to concede less then the other

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/09/2013 21:14:08    1473591

Should've just added that we went on to win the all Ireland that year beating Kerry on a scoreline of 1-16 to 2-10.Again a great game of football and a good high scoring game.In 2008 quarter final Tyrone met Dublin again and the result was a rout.Tyrone beat ye of the pitch with a master class in "Total Football",coming out winners on a scoreline of 1-08 to 3-14.We got 3-13 from play that day and our team was just a wonder to watch all over the pitch.Again we lifted the Sam that year after winning out over Kerry in another great final on a scoreline of 1-15 to 0-14.
Point being, you would need to take yer head out of the sand with all this nonsense about a select few teams being the saviours of gaelic football,you had no answer in 2005 and 2008.
The game yesterday was a decent game of football but the most obvious thing to me from a neutral perspective was that this purist type game you claim to play is simply an attack oriented game at the expense of any kind of robust defending.Defending lads,is also part of the game.There were moments yesterday when you could see that Kerry were still suffering from "Ulsteritis" with 13 men in their own half,nothing wrong with that either in my opinion,if they had done it a bit more they might have won.It was clear that both teams were prepared to let the other attack in a basketball like game and the winner would be the team who picked their scores of better,simple as that really.I would think watching that game that the happiest man in croke park yesterday was James Horan,with the way Kerry opened up that defense the Mayo forwards will be relishing the final.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 02/09/2013 21:31:50    1473614