MesAmis,

If the DUBS hadn't got such massive backing, finanical and otherwise, from Croke Park your hurling wouldn't be in the healthy state it is so less of the patroning lectures. Furthermore your footballers are given home advantage in EVERY Championship game so again no soap box please; your county is in no position to preach to anyone. It can be an hour and a half from North Antrim to Belfast, another 2 and half to Dublin and another hour and a half on to Thurles so no one is exaggerating the time the players and fans have to travel.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9837 - 10/09/2013 16:53:21    1479381

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MesAmis,

If the DUBS hadn't got such massive backing, finanical and otherwise, from Croke Park your hurling wouldn't be in the healthy state it is so less of the patroning lectures. Furthermore your footballers are given home advantage in EVERY Championship game so again no soap box please; your county is in no position to preach to anyone. It can be an hour and a half from North Antrim to Belfast, another 2 and half to Dublin and another hour and a half on to Thurles so no one is exaggerating the time the players and fans have to travel.

Thats only 5 1/2 hours so an 11 hours round trip not 12, making things up to suit you once again i see

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 10/09/2013 17:07:19    1479405

moonmoo from Kerry,

You still don't get it for a national final it should be in a venue which is accessible to both,

to harp on both NHL fixtures are totally irrelavant as we all have to play home and away,

in relation to the CHRISTY ring cup, the final is in Croke Park - Dublin- Central to every where!!!!

Regardless of what has happened before, there is little logic or common sense here

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 10/09/2013 17:15:37    1479414

Moomoo,

That's by car on a good day and not including comfort stops so it could be up tp 14 hours there and back. We can therefore empathise with Kerry people, I suppose from Kingdom up to Dublin is a couple of days by horse, cart and donkey.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9837 - 10/09/2013 17:20:28    1479423

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moonmoo from Kerry,

You still don't get it for a national final it should be in a venue which is accessible to both,

to harp on both NHL fixtures are totally irrelavant as we all have to play home and away,

in relation to the CHRISTY ring cup, the final is in Croke Park - Dublin- Central to every where!!!!

Regardless of what has happened before, there is little logic or common sense here

Yes and like i said of the 3 finals Kerry have played in Dublin was a lot closer to the teams they played i.e. Weastmeath, Wicklow and Down.

As has been said but ignored by Ulster posters it was set out 3/4 years ago that they would be played in Thurles if Ulster teams had a problem why did they not say it then? Instead of of crying now and playing the everyone is anti Ulster card again. The B finals is also on in Thurles why should they give up playing on live TV and with a crowd there just to suit Antrim?

As i said before this has nothing to do with where the game is on its just another excuse for the like of Ulsterman to spread there anti Ulster conspiracy

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 10/09/2013 17:24:08    1479428

Ulsterman

Patronising? That's a bit rich in fairness. I asked some genuine questions about these issues facing the Antrim U21s but you just go straight on the attack about Dublin and all the usual cliches.

Well done man. At the start of this thread you didn't seem too annoyed as you accepted the fact that the decision had anyway been taken in 2010 but you couldn't resist the chance to have a moan about how the entire GAA is out to get you.

It's a pity that this is over shadowing Antrim being in an All-Ireland final but the venue is set since the beginning of the season.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13837 - 10/09/2013 17:29:15    1479435

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Moomoo,

That's by car on a good day and not including comfort stops so it could be up tp 14 hours there and back. We can therefore empathise with Kerry people, I suppose from Kingdom up to Dublin is a couple of days by horse, cart and donkey.

Your after changing your story again to suit you. At first you said nothing about ''comfort stops'' and now they will add an extra 2 hours? Also for all your talk Ulsterman are you actually going? Or will you be going to another Celtic match?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 10/09/2013 17:35:27    1479447

10/09/2013 17:15:37
cuchulainn35
moonmoo, You still don't get it for a national final it should be in a venue which is accessible to both,
to harp on both NHL fixtures are totally irrelavant as we all have to play home and away,
in relation to the CHRISTY ring cup, the final is in Croke Park - Dublin- Central to every where!!!!
Regardless of what has happened before, there is little logic or common sense here since when did moomoo move to the moon.....
Really? A national final shouldn't be in a venue which is accessible to both but it depends on the circumstances.
If it was the case that the venue be very accessible to both then every All Ireland senior final wouldn't be in Croke Park as some.

A national final shouldn't be just in somewhere accessible to both. Thurles is the place where the GAA is founded. Semple stadium should host an all Ireland final and as it is also central to most countys who play hurling it is a fine location. Yes Antrim will have to travel if they make the final but they would have to travel no matter what.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/09/2013 18:24:42    1479489

Are we still harping on about this? *shakes head

srb (Antrim) - Posts: 344 - 10/09/2013 20:15:33    1479547

This isn't an Ulster against us blog/post :- it just a bizzard venue for a fixture for 2 teams at opposite ends of the country,

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 10/09/2013 21:34:05    1479606

10/09/2013 21:34:05
cuchulainn35
This isn't an Ulster against us blog/post :- it just a bizzard venue for a fixture for 2 teams at opposite ends of the country,
where would you recommend as a venue ahead of Thurles?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/09/2013 21:56:19    1479634

Lads this is getting silly now - match in Thurles on Saturday and thats the end of it.

Now the point has been made if it was an issue for Ulster teams then why wasnt it mentioned before - valid comment and to be honest, if Down 21s were there this weekend Id be fairly sure we would play the match and be delighted to be there. No Ulster County had an issue with it before now so some of the nonsense re boycott etc.. (notice alls gone quite recently from Mr Ryan) is laughable - dont forget Kevin Ryan booked his holidays in America for the week after the Wexford match, enough said.

As for supporters and distance its an all Ireland final for criss sakes and anyway we dont get that many followers so it would hardly matter. Antrim dont either, I was in the stand for their semi final against Down and you could have had 10 seats for each supporter present - usual hardcore who are at every match.

Now finally, to be honest, if Armagh, Derry, Tyrone, Donegal etc.. hurlers were arguing this point re venue I would have some sympathy but with Antrim, sorry lads, but you have no arguement at all. You play in Ulster and Leinster Hurling Championships (cake and eat it comes to mind), some of your teams go straight to the championship finals and all matches have been played at home in Casement Park. Even this year with Casement closed, it was reopened to play the both the U21 semi and final against Down and Derry - how is this possible - we all know you pull the Ulster Council strings re hurling so all this nonsense by some is embarassing.
I can assure my southern friends if the shoe was on the other foot here theres no way the Antrim board would accomodate Clare 21s or supporters.
One Irish News commentator last week in a piece about the percieved unfairness referred to Thurles as a "provincial backwater" - now that says it all as far as Im concerned.

Anyway rant over and best of luck to those young Antrim lads who will play in an All Ireland Final on Saturday; you seem to have been forgotton about in the maelstrom of nonsense. Enjoy the occasion and you should be proud of your achievements this season.

Tim_Burr (Down) - Posts: 460 - 11/09/2013 09:16:12    1479667

Are we still harping on about this? *shakes head

Seems so. As said on this post previously, I have no personal issue with this years final being played in Thurles as that what was decided in 2010 and will be loading up the car on Saturday morning to make the 9 hour return car journey (from close to the extremities, without any comfort breaks, keeping the windows up to avoid drag, listening to Bat out of Hell on loop and hoping to average 67.3 mph - just for clarification for the HS journey time Auditors on here). However, from next year they need to look at changing this set up to factor in Antrim/an Ulster team should they make the final. If the other 3 provinces are happy that it remains in Thurles as a permanent basis as opposed to maybe moving round 3 provinces on a yearly basis then stick with this decision with the caveat that, should Antrim or a county from the very North of the country make the Final that it is moved to somewhere more central.

One thing that I think a lot of the keep it in Thurles campaigners on here aren't really considering though is the fact that the distance will definitely stop a lot of people and families from Antrim attending who would have if it was closer. I know plenty of people from my own locality who cannot go as they have young kids and its just not feasible to put them in a car for a 4 1/2 hr non stop journey to go to a match then turn round and do the same journey again, arriving home in the small hours of Sunday morning. These are hurling mad people who are now going to be denied the chance to see a piece of history at this level in what could have been a great family day out all because of its uncentral location.

Anyway, its time to start talking about the game instead of something that has been decided and isn't changing. 11/1 Antrim, 1/66 Clare. Smart money must be on Antrim....... ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 11/09/2013 09:16:23    1479668

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It is far to travel for Antrim fans but if that is a decision that was made in 2010 then we will go along with it and you won't hear any moaning from us. It is good that our teams are involved in finals and playing at these venues.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13837 - 11/09/2013 09:51:10    1479690