It's true we forgot all about the U/21 B Final is on in Thurles same day at 3pm Kerry v Kildare

BannerBoy2013 (Clare) - Posts: 325 - 30/08/2013 14:30:21    1471459

Knowing that the venue was Thurles for the under 21 final at the start, why did Antrim compete in this championship if they now so strongly disagree with the venue?

I cant see the GAA jumping for this! They didnt change the venue back in 2010 when Tipperary played Galway in the final and I cant see them changing is this time

The remarks coming from the Antrim camp about Kilkenny playing some lowly ranked cup final up in Antrim because they are a real hurling County are out of order. Its more or less saying that if Clare dont do it then they're not a real hurling county..

Its been a great achievement for Antrim to get to the final but its no time to be putting on the poor mouth - get out and play the thing and get your county delegates to try and change the venue arrangements in the future

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1479 - 30/08/2013 14:50:02    1471473

Superb post Ban, that's spot on.

BannerBoy2013 (Clare) - Posts: 325 - 30/08/2013 14:58:28    1471481

Ban
County: Westmeath
Posts: 97

1471473 Knowing that the venue was Thurles for the under 21 final at the start, why did Antrim compete in this championship if they now so strongly disagree with the venue?

I cant see the GAA jumping for this! They didnt change the venue back in 2010 when Tipperary played Galway in the final and I cant see them changing is this time

The remarks coming from the Antrim camp about Kilkenny playing some lowly ranked cup final up in Antrim because they are a real hurling County are out of order. Its more or less saying that if Clare dont do it then they're not a real hurling county..

Its been a great achievement for Antrim to get to the final but its no time to be putting on the poor mouth - get out and play the thing and get your county delegates to try and change the venue arrangements in the future

+1. I sais it earlier, why was no objection lodged before the competition started. They have no problem making every ulster county play in casement against them. Pot, kettle, black springs to mind.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 30/08/2013 16:20:48    1471553

yes I agree bannerboy, but are mayo v Dublin being reffed by a leinster ref?? this only is the tipp of the iceberg,lol.antrim is not wanted in the all Ireland series FACT. as Ulsterman asked what ger loughnane said, on live tv I may add, but antrim should not be in the all Ireland, because they are not part of Ireland!! this is what they really think of the ulster sides whether it be in football or hurling.sure they even brought in new rules to try and stop Donegal from winning again(even though it was probably a one off). we have seen it for years, never getting fair play once you go over the border. my cousin played for the county for years and was getting lumps taken out of him. when he complained, he was told to shut to f##k up ya black northern b*£$%**.I will probably get censored because they don't like to hear the truth.

exref (Antrim) - Posts: 72 - 30/08/2013 20:00:29    1471683

Thurles has a fine pitch alright hurling dub but I wouldn't say it's any better than Croker , Duggan Park in Ballinasloe or several other pitches around the country.The history of the place is overstated, I mean what field has more history than Croke Park? Munster people are a bit too precious about Thurles in my opinion.I much prefer the Gaelic Grounds or Fitzgerald Stadium myself.
Anyway getting back to the issue at hand it's a 4 hour drive for Antrim fans and an hour drive ( give or take) for Clare where's the fairness there?
I admire Antrim hurling folk for keeping the game going in their northern outpost but they are treated as poor relations by some in the GAA.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 30/08/2013 20:29:21    1471686

I hope that Central Council under all the pressure don't change the venue away from Thurles because there is no better way to highlight to the world an injustice than seeing it practised. I am a great believer in 'Natural Justice' and time takes care of that. Central Council are building a great case against themselves and all sympathy is with the wee boys with the 'Scotch tongues'.

Isolatedantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 31 - 30/08/2013 20:58:00    1471709

Bannerboy ,

As you well know Croke Park is the only stadium in the country that can accomadate the 82k plus crowd that will attend the All Ireland Senior final so it's not comparable to the U21 final that may get a crowd of 15 k at best .I agree that it is an advantage for Dublin playing at home. You will surely agree that there is a difference between the senior All Ireland and the U21 in terms of their importance in the GAA calendar and prestige?

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 30/08/2013 21:00:06    1471712

sorry to correct you isolatedantrim, but it is "Scottish tongues", not scotch. that is a type of egg,lol. have been told off many a time myself for calling them that.

exref (Antrim) - Posts: 72 - 31/08/2013 09:47:56    1471759

Thanks ex referee for correcting my spelling. I can see Scotland from my window and many a shinty game played with them but I suppose I could still use 'Scotch' like eggs as Central Council will end up with egg all over their faces regarding the venue issue.Wee Davy the Clare manager when training Dunloy last year came up on a helicopter that gives you an idea how far he felt Antrim was away.

Isolatedantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 31 - 31/08/2013 11:10:04    1471788

Thon boyos doon in tha big smoke dinnae care tae mooch aboot tha game up Oor way. They dinnae be needan onie sair heids way thon nor'maist peepul frain leukin it naurer hame.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 31/08/2013 11:26:59    1471796

This is showing Antrim in a very bad light for a number of reasons!

1. The location of the final was set before they played the semi final. As they said nothing about it until after the semi they obviously didn't think they would win!

2. The Antrim county board are now pretending to care about their under 21 hurlers which we know isn't in their make up. Didn't they have club football fixtures the day of the game!

3. All the noise from the Antrim county board is claiming that they want the match moved to a neutral venue! Last time I checked thurles is in tipp not Clare.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 31/08/2013 11:37:43    1471805

Honestly if I see the word fair once more I will literally combust ,what playground bullshit mentality is going on here , what age are the posters , tit tat fair blah blah , time to grow a pair and get on with life , nothing and I repeat nothing is fair not work , not school , social opportunities , justice system , the political system , and definetley NOT sport , the sooner you realise it get on with life the happier you will be , this is not nor will it be the last Unfair incident in a sports arena , fairness is like a tool to be manipulated to give spoilt children what they want like the Limerick county board .
As for the posters who start with the following lines
What would you do ?
You wouldn't be saying that if ?
What about the time when blah blah ?
Grow up move on , quite a lot of the limerick fans have FAIR play .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 31/08/2013 11:43:00    1471813

Yeah it probably does show us in a bad light and unfortunately the Gaels on the street in Antrim have no real control over their actions. But furthermore I would say it shows tha GAA in worse light that they would fix a competition final for such an uncentral position and Munster orientated. It shows the disdain with which they hold ulster hurling and loughnane has previously publicly made his feelings known on hurling up our way. Nothing like hurling snobbery lads.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 31/08/2013 11:51:07    1471817

Can someone explain to me why it would be such a big deal to play it somewhere more neutral like tullamore, portlaoise or croke?? What's the big deal with a team who haven't appeared in an all Ireland final in 20 odd years asking for the game to be played in a more neutral venue? Not sure why some Clare fans are getting annoyed over this - they've a big match to look forward to next week! Hope the banner do the business next week!

Saffrioneee (Antrim) - Posts: 2 - 31/08/2013 12:29:15    1471840

really don't get Antrim on this one. The manager has pretty much publicly blown his main motivation. he should have kept quiet and used it to motivate his players. Now he has built this big thing he can not back out of. its embarrassing

emmomac (UK) - Posts: 273 - 31/08/2013 12:36:59    1471843

I can't remember the last time I was so patronised.
'You are in an All-Ireland final so just get on with it and
stop complaining' seems to be what I am being told. Sod that
I say. The Antrim board is perfectly entitled to request a
change of venue. Draw a line from Galway to Dublin and for all
counties south of that line then Thurles is perfect. Add Antrim
to the equation and it most certainly is not.
Antrim fans have always travelled to Dublin without issue. That's
where the final should be. Failing that it should be somewhere of
equal distance like Clones.

sufferons (Antrim) - Posts: 12 - 31/08/2013 14:54:08    1471891

Like it or not, Antrim haven't got a leg to stand on.
It was agreed years ago that the u21 final would always be played in Thurles.
If Antrim are unwilling to play there then they shouldn't have bothered entering the competition in the first place.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 31/08/2013 16:25:15    1471919

Saffrioneee
County: Antrim
Posts: 2

1471840
Can someone explain to me why it would be such a big deal to play it somewhere more neutral like tullamore, portlaoise or croke?? What's the big deal with a team who haven't appeared in an all Ireland final in 20 odd years asking for the game to be played in a more neutral venue? Not sure why some Clare fans are getting annoyed over this - they've a big match to look forward to next week! Hope the banner do the business next week!

its already in a neutral venue.

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 31/08/2013 16:49:55    1471925

sufferons
County: Antrim
Posts: 10

1471891
I can't remember the last time I was so patronised.
'You are in an All-Ireland final so just get on with it and
stop complaining' seems to be what I am being told. Sod that
I say. The Antrim board is perfectly entitled to request a
change of venue. Draw a line from Galway to Dublin and for all
counties south of that line then Thurles is perfect. Add Antrim
to the equation and it most certainly is not.
Antrim fans have always travelled to Dublin without issue. That's
where the final should be. Failing that it should be somewhere of
equal distance like Clones.

How are they entitled to request a change of venue? Based on what? Antrim posters saying it should be somewhere neutral and you want it played in Clones? If your complaining that Thurles is somehow not neutral then how is Clones?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 31/08/2013 16:52:56    1471928