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Stop shouting. Learn some netiquette.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/08/2013 14:44:58    1470912

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BannerBoy

Stop shouting. Learn some netiquette.


Haha what's wrong with you? Because I don't agree with you I'm not showing netiquette? What makes me laugh is how you sit on the top of the hill passing judgements. I'm only putting my opinion as a Clare supporter across and I am prepared to and a discussion with Antrim supporters. I'm slagging no one off

BannerBoy2013 (Clare) - Posts: 325 - 29/08/2013 15:04:58    1470931

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You're not answering my question Benny Bunny, why should Antrim complain about it being in Thurles MUNSTER for the reasons it's to far for supporters and players. YET then ask Clare to go to ULSTER????????? Is that not by their "own reasoning" too far for Clare players and supporters?

You say it's sporting and compared it to Westmeath and Kilkenny?? A little but different there buddy Westmeath isn't that far from Kilkenny to be fair. I think Clare to Ulster might just be a little further :-) and this is an ALL IRELAND FINAL!!!!!

Do you think it's fair for Clare supporters to have to travel up to Dublin on Sunday and then the North the following Saturday? It's all opinions after all but I don't thinks that's fair if Antrim want to talk about fairness.

Thurles is called the home of hurling by many, it should be an honour to line out there in an All Ireland Final IMO. Maybe common sense would say Croke Park but that's up to the powers that be.

We are a sporting county a Benny Bunny, sure we gave Offaly a replay in 1998 All Ireland Semi Final when it wasn't our fault at all and subsequently lost an All Ireland. Unsporting we never can be called.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/08/2013 15:08:56    1470935

Fact is by their "own reasoning" the same way Munster is to far for Antrim. Ulster is to far for Clare.

If there is to be a compromise Dublin or Offaly or Longford would be a shout

BannerBoy2013 (Clare) - Posts: 325 - 29/08/2013 15:16:37    1470947

As an Antrim supporter I am very disappointing that the GAA expect us travel that far to thurles for the final. This year our senior hurlers had just 2 home games, against Offaly and the dubs. I have a huge amount of mileage clocked up supporting my team. I travelled to limerick, Carlow,navan all in the league and then mullingar, portlaoise and to Wexford for our championship games. I don't mind traveling to these places to support my county but the fact that the GAA haven't made the U21 final a more neutral venue than thurles is a joke! The home of the GAA is not thurles, it's croke.
And for anyone to say that Kerry v the dubs in croke every year is the same situation as this is simply not true. What's the big deal with taking the u21 final from thurles and putting it somewhere like portlaoise, Parnell Park and Croke?

Saffrioneee (Antrim) - Posts: 2 - 29/08/2013 15:56:26    1470981

I actually agree with you Antrim supporter. I think the game should be played in Offaly, Longford or Croke Park or Parnell Park

BannerBoy2013 (Clare) - Posts: 325 - 29/08/2013 16:07:52    1470989

I had my little rant yesterday where i thought the management were a disgrace for risking these players of a possible All-Ireland Final win. Now i still think its a disgrace but im a bit calmer now. I think bannerboy's comments are fair and justified. And maybe it is fair that a midway venue could be made available. I have a few questions i would like the answers to as i dont have the info....

1. where was the semi final played

2. how many antrim supporters attended

3. Was the U21 venue decided at congress in 2010 and was there any objection raised by the ulster counties.

4. How many supporters from antrim are we talking about does anyone have stastics on there attendences ytd.

5. Does this not set a precedent in the future that a county can object to venue i read in the paper today that dublin footballers havent played a senior football match outside croke pard since longford in 2006

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 29/08/2013 16:37:50    1471004

Wasn't sure of the answers but thanks to Wikipedia:

1. where was the semi final played
Wembley

2. how many antrim supporters attended
23,473

3. Was the U21 venue decided at congress in 2010 and was there any objection raised by the ulster counties.
Yes, No but they didn't tell the Ulster Counties the congress was on

4. How many supporters from antrim are we talking about does anyone have stastics on there attendences ytd.
23,474 - always one bandwagon supporter

5. Does this not set a precedent in the future that a county can object to venue i read in the paper today that dublin footballers havent played a senior football match outside croke pard since longford in 2006

I am sure the precedent has already been set and that we are not the first county to object to a venue already decided.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 29/08/2013 17:09:42    1471020

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Wasn't sure of the answers but thanks to Wikipedia:

1. where was the semi final played
Wembley

2. how many antrim supporters attended
23,473

3. Was the U21 venue decided at congress in 2010 and was there any objection raised by the ulster counties.
Yes, No but they didn't tell the Ulster Counties the congress was on

4. How many supporters from antrim are we talking about does anyone have stastics on there attendences ytd.
23,474 - always one bandwagon supporter

5. Does this not set a precedent in the future that a county can object to venue i read in the paper today that dublin footballers havent played a senior football match outside croke pard since longford in 2006

I am sure the precedent has already been set and that we are not the first county to object to a venue already decided.

Brilliant

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/08/2013 17:38:17    1471039

Antrim are only allowed to compete in the Leinster hurling Championship on condition that all their matches are played away from home.The top eight hurling counties also want a division one containing eight teams so that they don't have to travel up to the top of Ireland to play isolated Antrim.
Yes 50 years on from Martin Luthur King's famous speech, 'I have a dream' the march for hurling equality in Ireland is not over. It is significant that Thurles was picked as the venue on the exact anniversary of this famous speech on August 28th 1963.
I have changed my mind play it in Thurles but hold a 'hurling civil rights match' before the game.

Isolatedantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 31 - 29/08/2013 18:08:05    1471059

I actually thought that it was unfair on Antrim that both semifinals where in Thurles. Them v Wexford should have been in Parnell Park!

wise_guy (Tyrone) - Posts: 1584 - 29/08/2013 18:31:19    1471071

I myself being an avid hurling supporter am split about this venue. the problem is if my local club win their championship match on sept 1st they then had a semi final match on the 15th sept. the day after the final, we will have 4 or more players involved, they will be wiped out with the nervous tension and the travelling. the championship matches have to be played in September mainly because the pitches are nearly unplayable in October, which used to be the case.yes I am being very selfish, but with a bit more common sense from croke park, a neutral venue would make more sense, but we have always believed that antrim is not wanted in the all- Ireland series. just ask ger loughnane of all people.

exref (Antrim) - Posts: 72 - 29/08/2013 18:54:11    1471082

I am not up to speed on that exref, what did Ger Loughnane say? Sambo McNaughton's book was a good read. He said there was definate elitism in hurling that looked down on the likes of Antrim and he says in the interprovincials many Munster players just wouldn't go out of their way to mix with the Ulster teams afterwards and treated them very arrogantly. Some Dublin fans and hurling people have also said bitchy comments have been directed at them by the established hurling counties and their fans and who still see Dublin as very much outside 'the club'. It definately is something that exists but the top teams, the hurling 'establishment' and GAA don't really care about hurling outside the top 8 and never did.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9837 - 29/08/2013 19:21:29    1471096

Personally the hurling championship has been brilliant this year, with great underdog stories, this could really be a chance for the GAA to grasp the nettle and playing the game in Parnell park or Tullamore for me would be a nice gesture, I don't agree with boycotting ,but I also don't think it should be as simple answer as "you either like or lump it ,we all had to do it", type of talk. Agreed Clare have to be considered in all this but I don't think they'd mind a venue like one of these.
Clare are raging hot favourities for this one and I would hate to see a great underdog story ruined where all it takes is a bit of goodwill from the Gaa , it could cap a great year for hurling with another province feeling very much involved as opposed to outside the loop and it might make the Antrim board recipicate by giving their own county hurlers the respect they deserve.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 29/08/2013 19:23:09    1471098

For a start ye all seem to be forgetting that the u21B final is also on in Thurles at 3pm between Kerry and Kildare. So if the final should be moved to Ulster is it fair on Kerry. The venue was set in 2010 and thats it.

spacetrap (Clare) - Posts: 8 - 29/08/2013 20:23:59    1471120

Down to mighty Thurles
Said they we'd have to go that day.
No matter what the distance was,
That was just the way,
Singing songs of Ballymoney,
The Glens and Shaftsbury Square,
Till Barney got excited,
Then shouted "Hay boy, c'mere":
It's a long way to Tipperary,
It's a long way to go.
It's a long way to Tipperary
To take the Cross of Cashel home!
Goodbye, Ballymoney,
Farewell, Shaftsbury Square!
It's a long long way to Tipperary,
But our goal lies there.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 30/08/2013 09:17:00    1471219

Very good offside-rule!

I can see the logic behind Antrim's complaint over the venue, but talking of not turning up is not going to achieve anything and is hardly ideal preparation for the players. Nor is it going to persuade Croke Park to relent. It is an All Ireland final and there were good reasons for picking Thurles as the annual venue, unless Tipp are in it. Perhaps no-one envisaged that Antrim might be in a 21 final?

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 30/08/2013 11:13:57    1471284

What are the good reasons hurling dub? Knowing the powers that be I' ld say they didn't envisage Antrim ever getting to the final.
Thurles is a great venue but it definetly suits some counties more than others.Its a hell of a drive from west Galway I can tell you.
Two years ago the Galway / Dublin final was played there with a crazy throw in time of 6pm in front of about 6k. The crowd was lost in a stadium that size and the atmosphere was poor.
The logical place for a Galway Dublin final is Tullamore and I guarantee you there would have been a much bigger attendance if that final was played there, and a better game and atmosphere.
Would it not be more sensible to decide on a venue once the finalists are known?

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 30/08/2013 11:52:12    1471312

Condorman

I hope you'll be first to accommodate the Mayo footballers if you beat Kerry in the Semi Final on Sunday. I dont think the All Ireland Football Final should be played at Croke Park. That's unfair on Mayo to have to play an All Ireland Final in Dublin against Dublin at a Leinster venue. Wouldn't you say?? I mean by your own words and all that.

BannerBoy2013 (Clare) - Posts: 325 - 30/08/2013 14:21:07    1471447

Barnowl, I meant in the sense that Thurles is generally considered to be the best hurling pitch in the country and has the whole historic thing. I do appreciate the journey from Galway.

I had forgotten all about the Galway/Dublin final there! Terrible night all around as I recall and yes it was poor atmosphere. I had confused it with the semi final in Tullamore the year before. So perhaps you have a point!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 30/08/2013 14:25:59    1471453