seanie_boy
County: Tyrone
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artisan
County: Down
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Mayo by at least 8 pts. Could be another slaughter if Mayo really kick into gear.
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Artisan, that just will not happen in a million years.


Ye are cock sure it won't be a hammering.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 22/08/2013 10:25:07    1465556

seanie_boy
Artisan, that just will not happen in a million years.

Why? Why are tyrone different simply because they are tyrone? I hope you are not relying on that alone to win this game because if that is what you are thinking coming into this game then you have underestimated this mayo team, and that isnt a good place to be...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 22/08/2013 10:31:37    1465560

Total Football and Total Faith boys and thats all we need.Read what Brian Mc Guigan says on the main page.You lot are expected to win and your players are well aware of that at this point.We are expected to do ourselves proud and give yez a good game.Yez will know all about the tenacity of the underdog come Sunday.Our year,with this evolving team,has already been a success.We won Mc Kenna Cup and got to league final,anything more is a bonus.Your year on the other hand is a failure if you don't win.Thats a heavy burden on Mayo players shoulders goin in to an all Ireland semi final.Especially since no team has really made yez fight for a win like our boys will make yez fight on Sunday.Come on Tyrone.I'm remembering that line from the 2003 all Ireland semi v Kerry "they're like a pack of wolves"!!!

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 22/08/2013 10:44:13    1465567

TheMaster
County: Mayo
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seanie_boy
Artisan, that just will not happen in a million years.

Why? Why are tyrone different simply because they are tyrone?
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Yes...........thats correct.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 22/08/2013 10:47:17    1465572

I just read McGuigans piece there, this bit made me chuckle.


"I take that as a sign more of what Tyrone supporters have grown used to over the past decade. They've slipped into that Kerry way of thinking, where All-Ireland semi-finals aren't necessarily a massive deal to them any more. - See more at: http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=199232#sthash.gcYxb46u.dpuf

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 22/08/2013 10:51:47    1465578

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County: Mayo
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I just read McGuigans piece there, this bit made me chuckle.


"I take that as a sign more of what Tyrone supporters have grown used to over the past decade. They've slipped into that Kerry way of thinking, where All-Ireland semi-finals aren't necessarily a massive deal to them any more. - See more at: http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=199232#sthash.gcYxb46u.dpuf
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Keep chuckling,we would prefer it no other way.You are totally failing to grasp the enormity of the task your boys have to face on Sunday and most likely they are failing to grasp it too having been coasting easy games all year and getting big heads from it, and not forgetting we beat yez this year already and since then we have undeniably improved as a team.Your win over Donegal was as facile as ours over Offaly and I'm on record as saying that about that win on this forum.You have not had to fight for a thing so far.................that will change big time for yez on Sunday.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 22/08/2013 11:12:06    1465594

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-mirror-mirror-on-the-wall-who-is-the-most-cynical-team-of-them-all-29519129.html

Warning - Objectivity required to absorb this information

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 22/08/2013 11:29:25    1465611

That's your opinion Seanie boy and of course you're entitled to it especially as you have backed up your prediction by reminding us of your victory in Castlebar with a last second penalty with Mayo having up to seventy percent possession but we were wasteful that day surely .

You also point out the aul "ye have not been tested" stuff, what does that mean exactly? I have heard it all year, we went to Salthill , destroyed Galway, next up the Rossie , we done the same and again v London, all the above held their own and exceeded expectations in the qualifiers, indeed the Rosie's should of beaten ye in the Hyde if the truth be known .Then we hammered Donegal playing exhibition football again.

Now my point is where does it end, let's play out the scenario, we hammer Tyrone and then beat Kerry by a fair margin in the final, does that then make us never tested, do we hand back the all Ireland ? Honestly what does it mean to be untested or is there something maybe you're all missing and that is that Mayo are just machine like this year and on a mission.

Tyrone are also on a mission according to Peter Canavan and the mission is this game, never he said has he seen anything like it in Tyrone camp, so determined to win this game.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 22/08/2013 11:36:42    1465616

untested means that you have not gone into the last 10mins with a point between the teams, and come out on top. That could be dangerous teritory for this untested mayo team. Have they got the bottle? They showed some in last years final again Donegal, I hope they do. Here's lookin for a great match in the makin!

Tara_Kings (Meath) - Posts: 128 - 22/08/2013 12:58:27    1465699

untested? Mayo played the current all ireland champions in our last game if my memory serves me correct. If Mayo somehow went on to win their next two games comfortably would the same keyboard experts say that we won the all ireland without being tested? What a load of waffle!

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 22/08/2013 13:20:39    1465717

Tara_Kings
County: Meath
That could be dangerous teritory for this untested mayo team. Have they got the bottle?

Well looking at this Mayo team's development over the past three years they have shown plenty of bottle. Lets go back to Horan's first championship game against London in 2011....kicked two late points in injury time to avoid defeat and a setback that would have set us back years. That same year against Roscommon in Tornado like conditions, Mayo edged out the win with O'Connor free pivotal.

In 2012, the Connacht Final was a battle against Sligo and Mayo ended up winning by 2 points. Trashed Down in Croke Park and fell asleep against Dublin with 20mins to go in the semi but held strong. I though we gave a good account of ourselves in the final last year when going down by 7 points so early on.

This year in the League we edged past Dongeal and beat Cork in a thriller down in Cork with two sublime sideline kicks from O'Connor yet again. Mayo could easily have got relegated this year but showed bottle to stay up and even ended up in a League semi as a bonus run out.

Our run so far this year has seen us breeze past teams but that will change on Sunday with Tyrone....is this Mayo team up for the fight? Of course they are. It is the same old lazy analysis of Mayo teams that people try to muster up, hammer a team and that team was no good. What happens if Mayo end up winning by a point in a dogfight Sunday.....people will still say "arragh they aren't as good as we thought" - no win sometimes.

Mayo will not be respected until we win an All Ireland....ive kinda accepted that but their is some fierce lazy analysis going on out there. Also the view that Tyrone are the most cynical team is codwash. Every team has that noose in their belts nowdays and Mayo are no different.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11656 - 22/08/2013 13:25:15    1465724

Tyronetim

Read that article also and just shows the whole Cynical debate is a load of nonsense, every team does it to varying degrees. It seems if Media / so called experts don't like your team's style of play they fashion "buzz" words like Cynical to condemn it. This is more to do with the style of play rather than anything cynical, they can't continue to harp on about that because it's within the rules so they simply call it something different. I would have no problem in teams setting up any way they wish, it is up to the other teams to defeat that system. i believe the Dubs have created a new system that will be benchmark for the next decade based on speed and intensity at which the game will be played at, i hope other teams try to follow as it is great to watch. it's all part of the game evolving. Good luck on Sunday hope we come out on top but think it's going to be tight one

2winjustonce (Mayo) - Posts: 65 - 22/08/2013 13:53:16    1465749

Mayo team named - same as the last day.
Rob Hennelly (Breaffy);
Tom Cunniffe (Castlebar Mitchels), Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Chris Barrett (Belmullet);
Lee Keegan (Westport), Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe), Colm Boyle (Davitts);
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy), Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy);
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis), Alan Dillon (Ballintubber);
Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber), Alan Freeman (Aghamore), Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen).

MaigheoAbu (Mayo) - Posts: 343 - 22/08/2013 14:54:13    1465811

2winjustonce and Yew Tree again showing the way for Mayo posters.

Not sure the style of play thing holds up either though remember playing Dublin a couple of years ago geting roasted and they had a field day complaning of Tyrone's naivety as the went man to man with Dublin and got overrun. Dublin that day dropped sweepers back and Tyrone didn't.
I think Mayo look really strong hard to see how we can match that (O'Connor tackle on Magee stood out last day for me). It rarely pans out that way a huge win against Donegal who beat Tyrone with ease would mean more of the same.
After 2008 I said i'd never right Tyrone off but we have alot of improving to do.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 22/08/2013 15:03:48    1465822

We will learn a lot about the character of this new Tyrone team Tyronetim, we have come a long way in the last 12 months, maybe a little bit too much too soon but there are 28 other counties out there who would love to be where we are right now. I'm thinking that if we can hold Mayo to within 3/4 points by the 4th quarter then we have a chance, if they have a substantial lead by half time then we could be in trouble. Either way, the future for Tyrone football is looking good and regardless of the result on Sunday we can look back on this year with great satisfaction.

Tir Eoghain Abu.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/08/2013 15:10:39    1465827

Mayo to win handy and then fill the nappy in the final.

Dessie_Cross (Armagh) - Posts: 145 - 22/08/2013 15:10:59    1465828

MaigheoAbu

No real surprise in the team selection "if it ain't broken"

what is people thoughts on Andy Moran, i'm glad he is in there as think with game time he will get better (similar to Dillon finding his feet against Donegal after an average connaught campaign by his standards) he needs to put in a performance on sunday as bench is full of talent

2winjustonce (Mayo) - Posts: 65 - 22/08/2013 15:33:52    1465847

Even if Mayo do win on Sunday I won't congratulate them. The moaning from their camp the past 2 years has been up there with Kerry and their fans have some serious, hysterical self deluded airs of grandeur. I mean come on it's only Mayo who have nothing to boast about.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 22/08/2013 15:35:49    1465854

Of course you wont ulsterman, you have an anti-southern bias.

Also, we have 3 all irelands, so if that is nothing to boast about.... I think you know where Im going with that...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 22/08/2013 15:39:57    1465857

seanie_boy
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2770

Disagree with that analysis Sergeant.Don't think O'Shea will rule the skies at all,I hope Mickey puts Cassidy in beside him for at least a while and the Cavanaghs won't be letting him off with much either! I know some Tyrone posters will probably disagree but I'm not at all disappointed that Penrose won't play.I know he is a good work horse of a player that chases out field and tackles and harries defenders trying to move the ball outfield but he is supposed to be a forward and he isn't getting the scores enough times. Mc Alliskey,Mc Curry and O'Neil to shine on Sunday!

I hope you're right Seanie, I want to see a Tyrone victory here for the good of Ulster football, but I just can't see it happening. Cavanagh senior is arguably the best midfielder of the 4 who will line out on Sunday. However AOS is every bit as good and his brother is not far behind. I don't think Cavanagh younger is up to that standard however. Advantage Mayo in a crucial area. Unfortunately SON up front hasn't really produced anything like his form of old. He was anonymous against Monaghan and sent off against Meath. McCurry is young and may prove to be a good footballer down the line, but I can't see him troubling the Mayo fb line which is full of experience. Ronan O'Neill may be worth bringing in early into the game.

Heart says Tyrone, head says Mayo unfortunately.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 22/08/2013 16:04:15    1465889