Kerryhound you speak sense. It's a shame some of the other posters like kingdom boy there don't share your sentiments.

Kingdomboy out of curiosity when was the last time you watched a kerry game? 2000?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 06/08/2013 13:53:57    1454261

I answerd this question on a different thread yesterday goats milk, Kerry have to change the way we play sometimes when we are up against northern teams that play blanket defences , but we are stil a traditional team.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/08/2013 14:16:33    1454290

To use a quote from the movie that I take my user name from "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

Well, the greatest trick that Kerry ever pulled, and Lordy there have been many, is convincing so many lapdog journalists that thye are the 'purists' of the game whilst so many teams are vilified. The Kerry team since 2004 has been the most cynical team in Ireland, their use of the blanket defence (which the media never call it when Kerry use it) is only but one aspect of it.

KeyserSoze (Cork) - Posts: 363 - 06/08/2013 18:24:42    1454639

Keyser its a great movie but we rarely resorted to cynical tackling, now in the second half against Cork we did and the majority of the game against Cavan. But last year we didn't mainly because we were chasing games.

Conor tried that defensive system against us in the munster final and it failed when we played football.

Jackos_Wacko (Kerry) - Posts: 417 - 06/08/2013 18:57:07    1454679

Jackos Wacko, were you by any chance at the Munster finals of 03 or 04? I seem to remember a few cynical, off the ball tackles on John Galvin and Stephen Kelly, or do you recall Tadhg Kennelly taking out Nicholas Murphy at the start of the 09(?) all-Ireland final?

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 06/08/2013 19:09:13    1454696

I'm not going to dance on Counihan;s grave, but he took 6 years to try blanket defence and abandoned it again. At least in the games against Galway and Dublin this year , bas as we were in both, we played two other teams who also just wanted to play football.Kerry have been using blanket defence for years and had 15 men behind the ball in Killarney too before they did it against Cavan. What is even more cynical is the systematic diving, fouling out the field, intimidation of match officials and vilification of any pundit who dares to call them on anything. You'll say everyone is at it, but hand on heart I don't think anyone are as bad for it as Kerry.

KeyserSoze (Cork) - Posts: 363 - 06/08/2013 19:12:55    1454698

Keyser you need to go to counselling mate, you have deep deep problems. And you are talking fair rubbish.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/08/2013 19:45:06    1454732

Shur , buddy, tis a well known fact that anyone who says anything that is not kowtowingly fawning about Kerry football is mentally defective,

KeyserSoze (Cork) - Posts: 363 - 06/08/2013 20:03:56    1454755

What Tadhg Kennelly did in the opening minute of the 2009 All-Ireland final was the worst/ most cynical eposide ever in the GAA - he deliberately tried to 'break' his Cork opponent's jaw. He and Kerry wanted to remove a player from the showpiece event. What Cavanagh did didn't look good but he didn't set out to harm/injure/inflict pain on his opponent.
What was worse is that the Kerry player made reference to this , in his autobiography, - in other words he profitted financially from bringing the game into a very negative light.....

To foul a player is of course wrong and is in contradiction to the rules of the game, but foulling won't be eradicatted but to deliberately injure an opponent so that he/she cannot perform to the best of their ability is an outrage. Is this the 'purist form'

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 06/08/2013 20:25:06    1454789

cuchulainn35
County: Armagh
Posts: 814

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What Tadhg Kennelly did in the opening minute of the 2009 All-Ireland final was the worst/ most cynical eposide ever in the GAA - he deliberately tried to 'break' his Cork opponent's jaw. He and Kerry wanted to remove a player from the showpiece event. What Cavanagh did didn't look good but he didn't set out to harm/injure/inflict pain on his opponent.
What was worse is that the Kerry player made reference to this , in his autobiography, - in other words he profitted financially from bringing the game into a very negative light.....

To foul a player is of course wrong and is in contradiction to the rules of the game, but foulling won't be eradicatted but to deliberately injure an opponent so that he/she cannot perform to the best of their ability is an outrage. Is this the 'purist form'

Care to show us where he said he went out to brake his jaw would you? Its the first iv ever heard of such a comment from him. But as your so sure of it you'll have no problem finding it

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 06/08/2013 21:14:07    1454863

Outrage is it the football ye b-sta-dised was an outrage, all im reading from all these self indulgent posts is yere pathetic whining nothing about the belligerant behaviour from supporters from a certain succesful club in your county,nothing but scumbags.

mlcollins (Kerry) - Posts: 440 - 06/08/2013 21:24:24    1454882

The hypocrisy from the so-called kingdom never ceases,
did Mickey-head not see the Kerry fella deliberately
pull down a Tyrone lad clear in on goal! Double standards
are alive and well in the so-called kingdom!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 06/08/2013 21:28:52    1454890

Tagdh Kennelly foolishly attempted to up the sales of his autobiography by sensationalising his shoulder on Nicolas Murphy, but I doubt whether the man really intended to inflict such a sickening blow on an opponent whatever he said.

Kerry are no angels granted, and thanks to us having a seriously limited outfit at the minute (particularly at the back) seem to be resorting to a negative strategy that produces the kind of horrible rubbish that was seen in the second half against Cavan last Sunday.
If we attempt that rubbish in 3 weeks time the Dubs will destroy us. We have to press into Dublin, turn it into a shoot out, hope Anthony Maher has the game of his life to date and the 3 or 4 quality forwards we possess have a great day out.

Otherwise we'll bow out with a whimper, a turgid whimper where the industry of Donnacadh Walsh is the best card in our hand, not the talent of Declan, Darren, Jamie and Gooch.

DucksandDrakes (Kerry) - Posts: 3 - 06/08/2013 21:30:21    1454895

moomoo
County: Kerry
Posts: 3036

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cuchulainn35
County: Armagh
Posts: 814

1454789
What Tadhg Kennelly did in the opening minute of the 2009 All-Ireland final was the worst/ most cynical eposide ever in the GAA - he deliberately tried to 'break' his Cork opponent's jaw. He and Kerry wanted to remove a player from the showpiece event. What Cavanagh did didn't look good but he didn't set out to harm/injure/inflict pain on his opponent.
What was worse is that the Kerry player made reference to this , in his autobiography, - in other words he profitted financially from bringing the game into a very negative light.....

To foul a player is of course wrong and is in contradiction to the rules of the game, but foulling won't be eradicatted but to deliberately injure an opponent so that he/she cannot perform to the best of their ability is an outrage. Is this the 'purist form'

Care to show us where he said he went out to brake his jaw would you? Its the first iv ever heard of such a comment from him. But as your so sure of it you'll have no problem finding it
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He's not quoting him moomoo but you could draw that conclusion if you want given the way he bragged about it in his book ffs!

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 06/08/2013 21:32:27    1454898

cuchulainn35
County: Armagh
What Tadhg Kennelly did in the opening minute of the 2009 All-Ireland final was the worst/ most cynical eposide ever in the GAA - he deliberately tried to 'break' his Cork opponent's jaw. He and Kerry wanted to remove a player from the showpiece event. What Cavanagh did didn't look good but he didn't set out to harm/injure/inflict pain on his opponent.
What was worse is that the Kerry player made reference to this , in his autobiography, - in other words he profitted financially from bringing the game into a very negative light.....

To foul a player is of course wrong and is in contradiction to the rules of the game, but foulling won't be eradicatted but to deliberately injure an opponent so that he/she cannot perform to the best of their ability is an outrage. Is this the 'purist form'



Spot on cuchulainn35, spot on sir.

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 06/08/2013 21:34:24    1454902

TheGateKeeper
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2243

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The hypocrisy from the so-called kingdom never ceases,
did Mickey-head not see the Kerry fella deliberately
pull down a Tyrone lad clear in on goal! Double standards
are alive and well in the so-called kingdom!

The double standards are even more alive in well in Tyrone. Remind us who had 2 players sent off Sunday? I recall not so long ago Tyrone/Ulster posters using the same stat to justify the actions of a certain Tyrone club, but of course that was different wasnt it...

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 06/08/2013 21:34:42    1454904

Talking about hypocrisy how many players did tyrone end up at the end of normal time,denial and tunnel vision is a great antedote

mlcollins (Kerry) - Posts: 440 - 06/08/2013 21:38:49    1454909

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County: Kerry
Posts: 285

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Talking about hypocrisy how many players did tyrone end up at the end of normal time,denial and tunnel vision is a great antedote
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The 2 incidents are not even near comparable.Penrose got involved in some jostling and hand bags type stuff with a fella who was facing him and getting involved also.Kennelly attacked Murphy who wasn't prepared like a complete cowardly cute Kerry hoor.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 06/08/2013 21:52:07    1454941

Tyrone have played on the edge of the rules since early 00's and will continue to do so while micky harte is in charge. the underage teams in tyrone also play in the same manner so when and if they make it onto the senior squad, they can fit into the system of playing on the edge of the rules.

Kerry along with the likes of Mayo,Cork,Dublin and Kildare also play this way as do my beloved Down.
But when Kerry,Mayo and Dublin play each other they play open football, when they meet tyrone they have to fight fire with fire

DownStar29 (Down) - Posts: 172 - 06/08/2013 21:56:01    1454952

seanie_boy
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2632

1454898
moomoo
County: Kerry
Posts: 3036

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cuchulainn35
County: Armagh
Posts: 814

1454789
What Tadhg Kennelly did in the opening minute of the 2009 All-Ireland final was the worst/ most cynical eposide ever in the GAA - he deliberately tried to 'break' his Cork opponent's jaw. He and Kerry wanted to remove a player from the showpiece event. What Cavanagh did didn't look good but he didn't set out to harm/injure/inflict pain on his opponent.
What was worse is that the Kerry player made reference to this , in his autobiography, - in other words he profitted financially from bringing the game into a very negative light.....

To foul a player is of course wrong and is in contradiction to the rules of the game, but foulling won't be eradicatted but to deliberately injure an opponent so that he/she cannot perform to the best of their ability is an outrage. Is this the 'purist form'

Care to show us where he said he went out to brake his jaw would you? Its the first iv ever heard of such a comment from him. But as your so sure of it you'll have no problem finding it
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He's not quoting him moomoo but you could draw that conclusion if you want given the way he bragged about it in his book ffs!

By draw your own conclusion you mean make it up? Because thats just what he done with the above comments. Also where was he bragging about it?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 07/08/2013 09:42:42    1455005