Clubgaa
County: Limerick
Posts: 603

1455721 Seany and Greengrass, I dont fully agree with the process myself of clubs, county conventions and then Congress for getting motions pr proposals passed, BUT that is the system right now and if it needs changing then that change must be pushed from the grassroots up. The review boards that have been put in place over the years always put their proposal as an all or nothing, but eventually a watered down version gets agreed. As of now the only way to make changes is through the club up or when the next review board is in place petetion them and get Eugene McGee or his successor to push your agenda.

You are absolutely correct in what you say. But for that process to be dismantled the people who wish to progress must utilise that process. I can't see the delegates at Congress voting to take rule changes outside of their remit. There is a massive flaw in our rules at the moment. It needs to be dealt with expeditiously. That cannot happen as a result of the process in place. We all know what needs to be done but for that to happen a tortuous process must be followed which may or may not result in what needs to be done being done. Congress is the single biggest impediment to progress in Gaelic games.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 07/08/2013 17:38:24    1455750

Had Owen Mulligan been dragged down before that wonder goal V Dublin or Kevin Mcmenamin been taken out before his goal in the 2011 final then the game would be the worse for not having these fantastic defining moments.

O'Sullivan would've dragged him down if he wasn't dead on his feet. I think he couldn't even remember much of the second half due to that Ger Brennan tackle.. Sheehan dragged McCauley down earlier in the match when he was running through on goal. G

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 17:38:44    1455752

Brolly had to apologise to Swatragh over his comments on their U16s. Another example of ranting with no basis of truth.

IsMise (Tyrone) - Posts: 119 - 07/08/2013 17:49:58    1455767

You seem to really enjoy that stuff up there, sack cloth and ashes and all that. We did this but only because they did that, we want an apology,justice etc
Where's my apology for being forced to endure anti football until the utter negativity is removed from the championship. I want an apology from Mickey Harte for the scandalous behaviour of Martin Penrose and Conor Gormley and Ryan McMenamin etc..

Bosco (Carlow) - Posts: 664 - 07/08/2013 18:02:53    1455778

IsMise
County: Tyrone
Posts: 36

1455767 Brolly had to apologise to Swatragh over his comments on their U16s. Another example of ranting with no basis of truth.

He has apologised for that. He didn't apologise for anything else he said because what he said was grounded in the truth.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 07/08/2013 18:15:05    1455794

You seem to really enjoy that stuff up there, sack cloth and ashes and all that. We did this but only because they did that, we want an apology,justice etc
Where's my apology for being forced to endure anti football until the utter negativity is removed from the championship. I want an apology from Mickey Harte for the scandalous behaviour of Martin Penrose and Conor Gormley and Ryan McMenamin etc..

You're literally obsessed with Tyrone. It's all you post about. It's actually sort of sad.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 18:20:30    1455798

Where's my apology for being forced to endure anti football until the utter negativity is removed from the championship. I want an apology from Mickey Harte for the scandalous behaviour of Martin Penrose and Conor Gormley and Ryan McMenamin etc..

Oh no, Penrose (who never gets sent off) got sent off for hitting Mone's shoulder (who then proceeded to act as if he was punched in the eye). It was stupid but you're hard to reason with. You never seem to post about your own county, it's like you're more anti-Tyrone than pro-Carlow which is pretty odd to say the least.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 18:26:37    1455808

MichaelO,
So what?
Just quoting your man there by the way.

Bosco (Carlow) - Posts: 664 - 07/08/2013 18:32:39    1455816

If I want to talk about my county I do just that, talk about it with real live people. Up close and personal. If you want to talk about Carlow then no problem, what would you like to know?

Bosco (Carlow) - Posts: 664 - 07/08/2013 18:36:00    1455823

MichaelO,
So what?
Just quoting your man there by the way.

He said a lot of things in that interview, don't be selective. Don't even know why I'm arguing with a guy who's pathologically obsessed with a county that he isn't even from.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 18:36:17    1455824

The man you mention shouldn't have been sent off you think? Victimised I suppose? Whole world out to get you?
It's amazing he wasn't given the line long before the half time incident in my opinion as he was fouling aggressively goodo before he was doing the hard man nordie routine after the whistle.

Bosco (Carlow) - Posts: 664 - 07/08/2013 18:38:44    1455826

The man you mention shouldn't have been sent off you think? Victimised I suppose? Whole world out to get you?
It's amazing he wasn't given the line long before the half time incident in my opinion as he was fouling aggressively goodo before he was doing the hard man nordie routine after the whistle.


Bloody hell.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 18:50:08    1455839

You're not really arguing with me though are you?
I'm not obsessed with Tyrone. I am particularly perturbed by the increased prevalence of systematic, cynical, hateful and ultimately undignified fouling becoming all pervasive in Gaelic football.
The reason Tyrone and to a lesser extent Donegal and prior to both Armagh are the subject of my ire is because I think they have done more to promote and expedite said negative tactical fouling than all other counties combined. Simple.
The best game of the year so far across a number of criteria was Derry vs Down in Ulster. Cracking game, great scores, massive intensity, to and fro all the way. No cynicism that I can remember. Every other game in Ulster was dung.

Give me someone to warm to and I'll gush boy, gush!

Bosco (Carlow) - Posts: 664 - 07/08/2013 18:51:56    1455841

You're not really arguing with me though are you?
I'm not obsessed with Tyrone. I am particularly perturbed by the increased prevalence of systematic, cynical, hateful and ultimately undignified fouling becoming all pervasive in Gaelic football.
The reason Tyrone and to a lesser extent Donegal and prior to both Armagh are the subject of my ire is because I think they have done more to promote and expedite said negative tactical fouling than all other counties combined. Simple.
The best game of the year so far across a number of criteria was Derry vs Down in Ulster. Cracking game, great scores, massive intensity, to and fro all the way. No cynicism that I can remember. Every other game in Ulster was dung.

Give me someone to warm to and I'll gush boy, gush!


I'm not really arguing with you because it's boring and have heard it all before. As for saying every other game in Ulster was dung, at least it was even competitive unlike the other provinces. Don't see how that is great for the game either. As for gushing, maybe some day Carlow football will give me something to gush over.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 19:00:00    1455848

Oh and also Tyrone v Monaghan was the most exciting Quarter-Final as well. Funny that.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 19:01:33    1455849

Think admin didn't post one of my messages hence that last one looking a bit out of place.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2013 19:06:16    1455854

I wonder if joe brolly said for everyone to jump of a cliff or in front of a car would everyone act like a pack of sheep and agree and go do it. Be good if yous could think for yourself and not listen to all this anti-tyrone nonsense. The cynical foul problem is about falling high up the field and funnelling men back behind the ball, what sean cavanagh did was what anyone should do. Do yous think pat spillane or joe brolly wouldve lost the plot if kevin mcmanaman was fouled at the sideline in 2011 and kerry won the all-ireland? I wouldnt think so, its just because tyrone did it mr brolly and his flock of sheep lost the plot.

Goals_Will_Come (UK) - Posts: 375 - 07/08/2013 19:37:45    1455886

Bosco
County: Carlow
Posts: 636

1455841
You're not really arguing with me though are you?
I'm not obsessed with Tyrone. I am particularly perturbed by the increased prevalence of systematic, cynical, hateful and ultimately undignified fouling becoming all pervasive in Gaelic football.
The reason Tyrone and to a lesser extent Donegal and prior to both Armagh are the subject of my ire is because I think they have done more to promote and expedite said negative tactical fouling than all other counties combined. Simple.
The best game of the year so far across a number of criteria was Derry vs Down in Ulster. Cracking game, great scores, massive intensity, to and fro all the way. No cynicism that I can remember. Every other game in Ulster was dung.

Give me someone to warm to and I'll gush boy, gush!
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You are obsessed with Tyrone.You are following Tyrone fellas all over these threads to goad and rile and you know it.We are defending our players and managers from personal attacks.We can take fair criticism no problem but when its being done unfairly,when other teams do the same things and nothing is said,how do you think we are going to react?

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 07/08/2013 19:51:31    1455897

Poor Joe, wannabe Mother Teresa and full time media junkie, being called out by a pro. Pity the sheeple of HS couldn't apply the same thought process before spewing their bile.

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brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 07/08/2013 20:01:18    1455909

Joe Brolly's criticism of what Cavanagh did was justified and needed to be said. His criticism of Cavanagh "the man" was personal and unjustified.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 07/08/2013 20:02:29    1455911