OK, as a sort of diversionary tactic with all that is going on today...

What rules do we have that are the least well enforced (or even known about)? There is the handpass that is very hard to spot sometimes if it is a throw or not, hardly ever called unless blatant. There is the 13m rule from a free or sideline that is VERY rarely enforced. But the one that sticks out for me is one which many people don't even know about and I have seen players umpteen times get penalised for it and not even complain to the ref!

1.2 When the ball is on the ground, it may be
played by any part of the body except the
hand(s). It may be lifted off the ground with the
feet.
Exceptions
(ii) Any player who falls or is knocked to the
ground while in possession of the ball may
fist or palm the ball away on the ground,
and may score by so doing.

Watching the disputed point last night for Tyrone against Dublin in 1995, I thought would this have qualified? Was Canavan 'in possession of the ball' when he fell?

Has anyone ever seen this rule actually enforced?!

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1429 - 01/08/2013 13:24:00    1449752

The playing the ball on the ground with your hand rule change only came in a few years ago so it wouldn't have applied in the 90's

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 01/08/2013 13:28:23    1449765

i believe some referees dont know this rule exists.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 01/08/2013 13:28:46    1449766

3rd Man tackle is nolonger enforced either if it was football refs would be blowing up for it every minute

hurler in the ditch (Louth) - Posts: 439 - 01/08/2013 13:32:30    1449769

I'm fairly sure the rule about playing the ball on the ground wasn't in effect in 1995. If memory serves it only came into the rulebook circa 2002 or 2003. I've seen the referee blow up for "infringements" of this nature in the interim, however.

The whole area of encroachment from set plays is almost completely ignored by refs. For the throw in there's only supposed to be 4 people between the two 65's but there's often several more. It's even worse for throw ins during regulary play when all other players are supposed to be 13m away but are very often right beside the competing players. Similarly for penalties, several players encroach the 21 yard line before the ball is struck and its very often allowed. Even last Sunday, in the penalty that was retaken by Kilkenny, Cork's Kearney was in the square about 8-9 yards from the endline when the ball was struck with several others from both teams inside the 21 (and 14) yard lines.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 01/08/2013 14:05:25    1449811

A hurler pretending to throw the ball onto his sliothar whilst trying to break a tackle but actually throws it on the ground and runs onto it and lifts it with the hurley...Henry shefflin and Ben o connor perfected it and i never seen it blown by any ref..in fact Shefflin done it against Cork last weekend..

Bigdong (UK) - Posts: 66 - 01/08/2013 14:19:00    1449833

here is one I haven't seen enfore for years, remember been pulled on it years ago underage,

4.10 (a) To change the ball from one hand to the other,
without the original holding hand maintaining
contact until the change is completed.
(b) To change the ball from one hand to the other
more than once, unless the ball is bounced or
toe-tapped between the changes.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 01/08/2013 14:22:22    1449839

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 2173

1449766 i believe some referees dont know this rule exists

Would agree with this as i have had many a quiet word with a referee about this rule while playing. Only 2 weeks ago i had a "disagreement" with a referee who gave a free against me for that exact thing

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 01/08/2013 14:25:52    1449845

Not so much a rule which isn't enforced as the rule which seems to get missed the most is the double bounce. I have lost count of the amount of instances both at county/club games which I have been at or during televised games where the player double bounces and gets away with it. If you can see it as a spectator then there is really no excuse for the ref missing it when he is supposed to be keeping up with the play.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/08/2013 15:14:54    1449892

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 2173

1449766
i believe some referees dont know this rule exists.

I'm almost certain this is true

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1429 - 01/08/2013 15:17:56    1449898

(ii) Any player who falls or is knocked to the
ground while in possession of the ball may
fist or palm the ball away on the ground,
and may score by so doing.

The wording here is vague. "may fist or palm the ball away on the ground" Does this mean while the player is on the ground or the ball? If the ball is on the ground surely possesion is then lost and nullifys the above. it is the lads that write these rules that make the referees job that much harder. Every form of interpretation should be taken out and every detail spelled out step by step.

Stan.D.Hogan (Galway) - Posts: 152 - 01/08/2013 15:30:18    1449912

How about this one?

All players except the player taking the free
kick shall be at least 13m from where the
free kick is awarded, or, all players
except those two contesting the throw-in
shall be at least 13m from where the throwin
is awarded.

Heraf (Laois) - Posts: 316 - 01/08/2013 15:35:17    1449915

14 yard free's if the keeper or any player leaves or does not remain on the goal line... it's a penalty

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 01/08/2013 15:36:43    1449917

Rory Beggan's 13 steps

opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 526 - 01/08/2013 16:33:15    1449981

chriscart580
County: Meath
Posts: 86

1449765
The playing the ball on the ground with your hand rule change only came in a few years ago so it wouldn't have applied in the 90's

The playing the ball away on the ground with the hand was in a 1962 rulebook I used to have. Another one was that a player may hop the ball off the ground any number of times basketball style as long as he doesn't actually catch it. I've seen frees given for this in modern times. Has that rule changed, or don't the referees know of it?

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 644 - 01/08/2013 16:42:57    1449992

Another one was that a player may hop the ball off the ground any number of times basketball style as long as he doesn't actually catch it.

Really? I remember getting pulled for this in an under-16 game in the late 90's.... What an injustice!

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 513 - 01/08/2013 16:48:07    1450001

Midleton
County: Cork
Posts: 252

1449992
chriscart580
County: Meath
Posts: 86

1449765
The playing the ball on the ground with your hand rule change only came in a few years ago so it wouldn't have applied in the 90's

The playing the ball away on the ground with the hand was in a 1962 rulebook I used to have. Another one was that a player may hop the ball off the ground any number of times basketball style as long as he doesn't actually catch it. I've seen frees given for this in modern times. Has that rule changed, or don't the referees know of it?

Rule hasn't changed...

1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be
bounced more than once in succession.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1429 - 01/08/2013 17:11:31    1450029

In hurling:

4 steps
Push in the back (Minimum force)
Jersey pull
Stamping, when the ball is on the ground alot of lads will go in foot first in a stamping motion to gain better body position
Stob of the hurl
one handed swing (not malicious)
Chop


Unless they are crucial moment no need to blow for them, players don't care they're always at it, often trained to play like that. It slows down the game blowing for all that craic.

crossfieldball (Galway) - Posts: 650 - 01/08/2013 20:38:07    1450221

chriscart580
County: Meath
Posts: 86

1449765
The playing the ball on the ground with your hand rule change only came in a few years ago so it wouldn't have applied in the 90's

I actually scored a goal like this when playing minor (1995) was one on one with the keeper and he tackled me, i fell and ball dropped in front of me. from my prone postion i fisted the ball into the net to the complete consternation of the opposition players and management. The ref explained the rule but they were not having it. I have however on many occasion seen a free being given against this action

frankbhoy77 (Antrim) - Posts: 1300 - 01/08/2013 20:50:19    1450230

Is there any rule regarding diving? It has become ridiculous at this stage. The moment many players are touched they go to ground and more often than not the ref blows for a free in favour of the diving player. I would love to see these players getting carded, or if the ref has a doubt just play on. At the moment it seems to be a case of ref's blowing up for a free whenever in doubt, since most of the time its impossible to be certain if a fowl has been committed either way. All this whistle blowing is highly frustrating and deflating especially as there is no need for half of it.

kerryhound (Kerry) - Posts: 37 - 02/08/2013 10:12:34    1450388