He a masterdebater alright...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 24/07/2013 13:18:48    1441020

jimbodub
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1441020 He a masterdebater alright...

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Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 24/07/2013 13:25:40    1441028

And dont you forget it realdub.

Have you ever heard this one 'How many dubs does it take to win an argument with The Master?'

Obviously a few more...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 24/07/2013 13:53:52    1441087

Comedy gold....... big fan of Lenny Henry I'd say themaster right?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 24/07/2013 14:18:05    1441131

Ha ha master, your software hasn't been updated since '51 :)

You are definitely the 'wall' in 'talking to the wall'!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8812 - 24/07/2013 18:45:22    1441483

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1441087
And dont you forget it realdub.

Have you ever heard this one 'How many dubs does it take to win an argument with The Master?'

Obviously a few more...

1.3 million?

bluedubstar (Dublin) - Posts: 835 - 24/07/2013 19:08:38    1441499

I honestly think that Dublin will win the AI this year because of no other reason than there forwards options. They have possibly 8/9 forwards who on their day can rack up a score of anywhere between 2 - 6 points. If only three of the starters are on form then there is options on the bench to replace the lads having an off day. They have inside forwards that can take goals and half forwards that can score from distance. If they get Alan Brogan back then him and Connolloy are fantastic foot passers of the ball.
Even the Donegal team of 2012 with the defensive counter act football or Mayo with their cynical play of 2012 semi-final would struggle against the attack of the current Dublin team.
The only team I think could beat Dublin is Kerry. When Dublin played Meath, they played a very open, attacking game, gave away far too many frees and didn't really play any extra sweepers. If they come up against Kerry and play that way I think Kerry could give them a scare but maybe Gavin would change tact for that opposition.

Back on topic and who is in the better position? I'd rather be Ulster champions tbh. I don't think it is hunger thats lacking this Donegal team. I think Mc Guinness took a risk, he thought they needed another week of hard training and was hopeful that they would have enough to get a result against Monaghan, leaving them with two weeks light training for the quarters. If thats the case then the risk backfired and we deservedly lost against Monaghan. They will just be doing light training this week but because of that I'd expect them to be sharper on Sat and to win by a few points. The bigger problem is that I'd expect Laois to throw the kitchen sink at us on Sat and even if we win the physical battle could have an effect on them for the quarters against a team that has had at least two weeks and more likely three weeks recovery. It's a big ask for Donegal to win on Sat but it would be a really unbelievable achievement if we reach the semi's this year.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 24/07/2013 21:45:40    1441672

waynoI
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1440422 We've already won the league and Leinster in 2013... We are the only team in a position for the Treble

Monaghan can do a treble! :)

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Let me make a small alteration to Jimbo's statement so :)

We (Dublin) are the only team realistically in a position for the treble :)

No offence, But Monaghan have as much chance of winning Sam this year as Leitrim.. It just wont happen.

The way the football and hurling championship is panning out WaynoI id stir clear off making any predictions with absolute certainty,
Monaghan in all probability wont win Sam, but they are still there and have earned that right, have a fighting chance.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 24/07/2013 22:01:22    1441710

joncarter
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1439778 Dublin are favourites, especially after Donegals performance in the Ulster final, but they are a young team starting out under new management and will get there eventually, even if it isn't this year, and they know that.

I totally have an issue with all this talk about Dublin being at some kind of disadvantage because they have a new manager this year and a young side.....have we all fogot something monemental concerning my county here.....2003?? The first year Micky Harte took over was in 2003 with a very young side, most of which had only moved up from U21. What happened in 2003, anyone remember, we won the All IRELAND. So Dublin are the team to beat for me regardless of this new manager and young team nonsense.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 25/07/2013 08:53:48    1441725

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joncarter
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1439778 Dublin are favourites, especially after Donegals performance in the Ulster final, but they are a young team starting out under new management and will get there eventually, even if it isn't this year, and they know that.

I totally have an issue with all this talk about Dublin being at some kind of disadvantage because they have a new manager this year and a young side.....have we all fogot something monemental concerning my county here.....2003?? The first year Micky Harte took over was in 2003 with a very young side, most of which had only moved up from U21. What happened in 2003, anyone remember, we won the All IRELAND. So Dublin are the team to beat for me regardless of this new manager and young team nonsense.

Hard to know. I never thought of this as a 2 horse race, and always considered it to be between 4-6 teams. Kerry have come in under the radar this year, and are well capable of beating a open attacking style Dublin team. Mayo are ultra hungry, and like Kerry could easily clip Dublin or anybody else.

If Donegal beat Laois, they then will play either Dublin, Kerry or Mayo. And if they play to their potential and are up for it, they could beat any of those 3 sides. So in that case if Donegal beat Laois and win their All Ireland QF, they would be in an exceptionally dangerous.

However this is a massive challenge, and Donegal could well be out of the championship by 7pm this Saturday.

I totally have an issue with all this talk about Dublin being at some kind of disadvantage because they have a new manager this year and a young side

Exactly right. If this is the best the dubs can come up with in terms of poor mouthing their own chances, then there isnt a hope people are going to be fooled into thinking they are anything else than strong favourites for sam.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 25/07/2013 09:50:53    1441771

cacsmckilly
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1441725 joncarter
County: Galway
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1439778 Dublin are favourites, especially after Donegals performance in the Ulster final, but they are a young team starting out under new management and will get there eventually, even if it isn't this year, and they know that.

I totally have an issue with all this talk about Dublin being at some kind of disadvantage because they have a new manager this year and a young side.....have we all fogot something monemental concerning my county here.....2003?? The first year Micky Harte took over was in 2003 with a very young side, most of which had only moved up from U21. What happened in 2003, anyone remember, we won the All IRELAND. So Dublin are the team to beat for me regardless of this new manager and young team nonsense.

Exlain why Gaillimh are not doing well so. Like the Dubs, they have won two U21s in the last four years! Mulholland was their manager in 2011 and its important to take in mind he also won a minor All Ireland withh Gaillimh in 2007. For flip sake Mickey Harte is one of the greatest managers ever. Its not fair to compare Jim Gavin to his likes after only about 8 months in his roll as a senior manager.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 25/07/2013 10:07:19    1441792

I wrote monumental there with a Tyrone accent "monemental so it is"

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 25/07/2013 10:09:11    1441794

Culann
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1441792 cacsmckilly
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1441725 joncarter
County: Galway
Posts: 648

1439778 Dublin are favourites, especially after Donegals performance in the Ulster final, but they are a young team starting out under new management and will get there eventually, even if it isn't this year, and they know that.

I totally have an issue with all this talk about Dublin being at some kind of disadvantage because they have a new manager this year and a young side.....have we all fogot something monemental concerning my county here.....2003?? The first year Micky Harte took over was in 2003 with a very young side, most of which had only moved up from U21. What happened in 2003, anyone remember, we won the All IRELAND. So Dublin are the team to beat for me regardless of this new manager and young team nonsense.

Exlain why Gaillimh are not doing well so. Like the Dubs, they have won two U21s in the last four years! Mulholland was their manager in 2011 and its important to take in mind he also won a minor All Ireland withh Gaillimh in 2007. For flip sake Mickey Harte is one of the greatest managers ever. Its not fair to compare Jim Gavin to his likes after only about 8 months in his roll as a senior manager.


These excuses from Dublin are just piling up now, Dublin must win an All Ireland very very soon with the players they have at their disposal. They are hot favourites to win this year and the next and if they dont do it they have wasted a great opportunity. Micky Harte had a great team and he did the best with them thats all, he is no Messiah. Any manager would love to have Dublin's panel of players at their disposal and most half decent managers would win the Sam easily with such a bench. The pressure is most certainly on for Jim Gavin and co to seal the deal and bring home the bacon, otherwise Dublin will be seen as huge underacheivers AKA Bottlers

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 25/07/2013 10:37:38    1441820

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These excuses from Dublin are just piling up now, Dublin must win an All Ireland very very soon with the players they have at their disposal. They are hot favourites to win this year and the next and if they dont do it they have wasted a great opportunity. Micky Harte had a great team and he did the best with them thats all, he is no Messiah. Any manager would love to have Dublin's panel of players at their disposal and most half decent managers would win the Sam easily with such a bench. The pressure is most certainly on for Jim Gavin and co to seal the deal and bring home the bacon, otherwise Dublin will be seen as huge underacheivers AKA Bottlers

Thats basically a continuation of your last point. You failed 100% to address my point so why did you you quote what I said before re-posting?!! I spoke about Gaillimh and you answered by not referencing anything I said!! Holy smoke.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 25/07/2013 11:00:18    1441842

I spoke about Gaillimh and you answered by not referencing anything I said!! Holy smoke.

I just didnt understand why you bothered bringing Galways case into it, we are talking about Dublin here. Did you mention Galway because like yourselves they are great underachievers?

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 25/07/2013 11:11:12    1441856

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I just didnt understand why you bothered bringing Galways case into it, we are talking about Dublin here. Did you mention Galway because like yourselves they are great underachievers?

If we are talking about the Dubs why did you bring Tír Eoghain into it? I think you'll find the answer to your question in your answer!

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 25/07/2013 11:24:03    1441875

cacsmckilly
County: Tyrone
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1441856 I spoke about Gaillimh and you answered by not referencing anything I said!! Holy smoke.

I just didnt understand why you bothered bringing Galways case into it, we are talking about Dublin here. Did you mention Galway because like yourselves they are great underachievers?

And dont forget very few of the Galway U-21's have been recruited into the senior team and it will prob take a year or two before Galway see any benefit of those U-21 successes. Furthermore the Galway young guns are joining a senior team that is seriously limited and they are the only light in a very dark tunnel. Dublin on the other than have young star footballers entering a side that has won the all ireland only a couple of years ago so to compare Dublin to Galway is silly. Futhermore Galway do not have the resources at their disposal which Dublin have and they have to play away from home from time to time.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 25/07/2013 11:32:47    1441883

cacsmckilly
These excuses from Dublin are just piling up now, Dublin must win an All Ireland very very soon with the players they have at their disposal. They are hot favourites to win this year and the next and if they dont do it they have wasted a great opportunity. Micky Harte had a great team and he did the best with them thats all, he is no Messiah. Any manager would love to have Dublin's panel of players at their disposal and most half decent managers would win the Sam easily with such a bench. The pressure is most certainly on for Jim Gavin and co to seal the deal and bring home the bacon, otherwise Dublin will be seen as huge underacheivers AKA Bottlers

Exactly right casc. I would fear that this loser mentality that is evident amoung there fans on here might seep through to their squad.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 25/07/2013 12:47:24    1441994

cacsmckilly
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And dont forget very few of the Galway U-21's have been recruited into the senior team and it will prob take a year or two before Galway see any benefit of those U-21 successes.

Is that right?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 25/07/2013 12:52:23    1441999