Gleebo
No. Almost their entire panel are Irish born and raised, and even some who were born in Britain, such as Crossmolina's Sean Kelly, spent most of their lives in Ireland. I fear that this is a well- meaning gesture that is very misguided and may even offend

The Master

Then why are these lads taking the decision to represent an english city? You can spin that one both ways Gleebo

Because these guys obviously didn't want to forget their culture when they moved abroad. Would you prefer there to be no GAA setup outside of Ireland? I've represented cities in continental Europe playing gaa, doesn't make me French or German.

Equally, those of a partitionist mindset would probably query why there's no playing of GSTQ at games in the North, but yet we roll it out for a team of Irish-born players representing London. Best to avoid it altogether, IMO.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 03/07/2013 11:24:14    1422499

I'd like to see it but it probably wont happen. We really would be nothing without the UK, generation after generation has gone over for work and made a great living for themselves. I really think we should do our best to grt someone like Borris over, it could lead to great things such as an invite back into the commonwealth.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 03/07/2013 11:24:48    1422500

51longago
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it could lead to great things such as an invite back into the commonwealth.

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An excellent reason not to do it. Stop stirring up trouble. Or are you simply a west Brit?

OgraAnDun (Down) - Posts: 406 - 03/07/2013 11:34:40    1422509

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Which border exactly muck?

Take your pick brend, there are many to choose from. The toughest one is the one between our ears.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 03/07/2013 11:41:32    1422520

I think 51 justs likes to annoy people!

He also thinks that Kilkenny lost deliberately to Dublin so that they could play Tipp :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 03/07/2013 11:41:45    1422521

Because these guys obviously didn't want to forget their culture when they moved abroad. Would you prefer there to be no GAA setup outside of Ireland? I've represented cities in continental Europe playing gaa, doesn't make me French or German.

That is fine by me, but the upshot is they are playing for an english city and therefore should be represented by the english national anthem. Where they come from is beside the point. We dont play the austrailian national anthem when tom court plays for ireland, I dont see how london should be any different.

Personally, I dont see an issue with playing it. It is a sporting event where an english based team are playing, no more no less. This stuff has a time and a place, we shouldnt be slaves to it in every aspect of our lives. We also should realise that the english national anthem doesnt put us up or down, its just a piece of music. We will be no different after it being played, and playing it would show a maturity and a confidence in our own irishness. I dont get how anything english can have such an affect on people. It indicates that we dont see ourselves as their equal, that we are intimidated by them. The thing to do is play it and dont bat an eyelid.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 03/07/2013 11:50:24    1422533

Given you rationale, if that is the word, shouldn't every county have its own anthem played before their game, its the same principle is it not?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 03/07/2013 12:01:37    1422548

I'd say anyone involved in London GAA reading some of the comments here will be splitting themselves laughing. Even second and third generation London Irish would generally not regard GSTQ as their national anthem.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 03/07/2013 12:04:37    1422553

This is the anthem that they should play for London:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McjlNBtetwM

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 03/07/2013 12:48:35    1422614

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hill16no1man
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he has already declined.
and no way should that anthem be played,some people need a history lesson

Ah now hill16, forgive & forget, all in the spirit of rapprochment, Good Friday Agreement, Hands across the Border and all that.

how many british nationals are on the london panel?
is there actualy any british person?
they are irish guys living over there working there,why play british anthem when they aint british?
the gaa was set up with a goal to keep irish tradition and culture alive against the terrorism that was happening from britain in ireland.it would fly in the face of the people who founded the association.plus listen to the meaning of amhrann na bhfiann

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/07/2013 12:54:32    1422625

A lot of this political correctness is obviously tongue in cheek so don't rise to it.

It was one thing GTSQ being played at Croke Park for the rugby (and it was impeccably respected let's not forget) but it would be asking for trouble for it to be played at a GAA match regardless of which teams are involved. We have come a long way from the Troubles but advocating the British anthem being played at the Connacht Final is at best shit-stirring and worse downright foolish.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9897 - 03/07/2013 13:18:43    1422667

Boris Johnston wouldn't care if its God save Lizzy or The Star Spangled Banner but my money would be on the latter as Bumbling Boris was born NY

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 03/07/2013 13:31:25    1422688

What ginnet suggested this should happen.Just play the bloody match and get on with it.

They don't play GSTQ before Londons matches in Ruislip so why should this be any different.Amhran Na hfiann is only played before GAA matches because the GAA is an Irish Sporting organisation.I could live without Amhran na Bhfiann being played aswell.

The way some people act you'd think Irish people working in Britain was an act of charity from the brits. Irish people in Britain work for their money and that all that should be expected of them.I don't expect any sucking up to Ireland from the thousands of immigrants who work in this country.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 03/07/2013 13:36:14    1422697

Irish people playing an Irish sport in Ireland. None of the players identify with GSTQ, but the thread is a good attempt at winding people up, and for those of us around long enough we know this is nothing more than a wind up.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 03/07/2013 13:43:16    1422711

plenty of young English lads playing GAA in London with no Irish connections at all, am sure they don't mind GSTQ..... I'd say young Tiny Tempah when he played for Dulwich didn't mind it at all.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 03/07/2013 14:18:08    1422746

Because these guys obviously didn't want to forget their culture when they moved abroad. Would you prefer there to be no GAA setup outside of Ireland? I've represented cities in continental Europe playing gaa, doesn't make me French or German.

That is fine by me, but the upshot is they are playing for an english city and therefore should be represented by the english national anthem. Where they come from is beside the point. We dont play the austrailian national anthem when tom court plays for ireland, I dont see how london should be any different.

Personally, I dont see an issue with playing it. It is a sporting event where an english based team are playing, no more no less. This stuff has a time and a place, we shouldnt be slaves to it in every aspect of our lives. We also should realise that the english national anthem doesnt put us up or down, its just a piece of music. We will be no different after it being played, and playing it would show a maturity and a confidence in our own irishness. I dont get how anything english can have such an affect on people. It indicates that we dont see ourselves as their equal, that we are intimidated by them. The thing to do is play it and dont bat an eyelid.

Ok, last post confirms for me that you're trolling, but I'll play along for the craic (or would you prefer that I spell it 'crack'?).

We have six teams in the All-Ireland championship which are legally considered by the international community to be a constituent part of the United Kingdom (not that the GAA should recognise this). There is no trappings of UK constitutional pagentry at games played in that province- no UK anthem, no union flag, no NI flags. These players and fans proudly sing the Irish national anthem, and face the Irish tricolour before the throw-in.

Now, it seems to me to be inconsistent to have a situation whereby "UK subjects" should not have to observe the UK national anthem, but a team of Irishmen representing London should. Or are you suggesting that we insist on a similar arrangement for our Ulster bretheren?

PS: Tom Court rarely represents Ireland on the field, and even then, he's entitled to Irish citizenship, so I don't think 'Advance Australia Fair' will be heard until the Aussies visit next autumn.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 03/07/2013 14:51:04    1422806

Tom Court is entitled to irish citizenship, just as these lads in london are entitled to live and work in london, train in london, represent london. London is their team, just like ireland is court's team. I say again, we dont play the austrailian national anthem for him. I wouldnt have any issue with london being represented with the english national anthem. Im not saying it is happening, but if they wanted it I would have no issue with it, particluarly if boris johnson or whoever else was present after being invited. That is jsut being respectful. Our game is inclusive, not elitist.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 03/07/2013 15:04:30    1422831

in that case why is the british national anthem played before derry,antrim,down,fermanagh,tyrone and Armagh games? its played before northern Irelands games, these counties are in northern Ireland yet it is not played?

Dickie10, can you not see the contradiction in your statement. You ask why the British national anthem isn't played before games involving any of the Northern teams. Britain = England, Scotland and Wales ergo the defacto British national anthem has no reason to be played. With London being in England I can see the arguement for GSTQ being played if the American one is played before games involving New York, however, this does not mean I support that view.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/07/2013 15:26:02    1422879

Gleebo

Ok, last post confirms for me that you're trolling, but I'll play along for the craic (or would you prefer that I spell it 'crack'?).

This is why there should be a like button on this forum. Seriously though dont get annoyed lads, its clearly a joke.

white.n.blue (Monaghan) - Posts: 249 - 03/07/2013 15:32:56    1422893

Who wants to stand to sing GSTQ at the Connacht final? Who does it represent on the London team? NOONE. End of discussion.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 03/07/2013 15:41:27    1422906