Salmanneile
County: Longford
Posts: 33

Dublin won THREE All-Irelands. To call three of these teams GREAT is laughable. The Dublin team of the 70s deserve great credit but I won't consider them GREAT!

Are you for real? That Dublin team got to 6 all ireland finals in a row,winning 3 of them,
They most definately were a great team.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2850 - 26/06/2013 11:14:56    1415767

Salmanneile
County: Longford
Posts: 33



"Kerry had to deal with great teams from Cork, Dublin, Roscommon and Offaly, all of which would have easily won All-Irelands in any era."

This is the cute kerry hoor coming out in you I'm afraid. Between 1975 and 1986 Cork won ZERO All-Irelands, Roscommon won ZERO All-Irelands, Offaly won ONE and Dublin won THREE All-Irelands. To call three of these teams GREAT is laughable. The Dublin team of the 70s deserve great credit but I won't consider them GREAT!

I know you point to the years 1975-1986 and I will come back to them. Just for the record Cork won an All-Ireland in 1973, a Munster in 1974 and then unfortunately we came up against a great Dublin side. For the years that you mention (1975-1986), in that period to give you an indication of where Cork were at, we won 5 All Ireland under 21 championships, 2 All Minor championships and 5 All-Ireland club championships. Players like Jimmy Barry-Murphy, Sean Murphy, Billy Morgan, Ray Cummins, Dinny Allen were as good as any players in their era. Unfortunately, at that time Kerry had Mike Sheey, Egan, Ogie, Paidi, Spillane, Power, O'Keeffe et al and we did not win much at senior level. Also when we got to play Dublin we lost on both occasions (74 and 83-after a replay following a late late Barney Rock goal). Though we won nothing, we had a great side. It is a testimony to Kerry and Dublin greatness that we won nothing (still the haul that I did mention is impressive enough you'll agree).

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 26/06/2013 11:47:14    1415797

In fairness, it must be in decline if teams of the stature of Donegal are favourites to win All Ireland's.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1729 - 26/06/2013 11:59:34    1415816

Bennybunny

Indeed that is a magnificent haul of success from various Cork teams in that era, but I am referring solely to Senior Inter-County Football. Nobody would argue either with the quality of Billy Morgan, Dinny Allen, JBM etc., but Cute_Kerry_Hoor mentioned "GREAT TEAMS" so I was replying to his post.

As for Superbluedub, Dublin of the 70s were a really really good team, I would just fall short of calling them GREAT, sorry, that's just my opinion.

Salmanneile (Longford) - Posts: 113 - 26/06/2013 12:04:09    1415819

Salmanneile
County: Longford
Posts: 34

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Cute_Kerry_Hoor

"Kerry had to deal with great teams from Cork, Dublin, Roscommon and Offaly, all of which would have easily won All-Irelands in any era."

This is the cute kerry hoor coming out in you I'm afraid. Between 1975 and 1986 Cork won ZERO All-Irelands, Roscommon won ZERO All-Irelands, Offaly won ONE and Dublin won THREE All-Irelands. To call three of these teams GREAT is laughable. The Dublin team of the 70s deserve great credit but I won't consider them GREAT!


Well you're entitled to your opinion Salmaneile but all those sides would have almost certainly won more All-Irelands only for the Great Kerry Team of that time.

Cute_Kerry_Hoor (Kerry) - Posts: 2518 - 26/06/2013 12:19:26    1415832

Salmanneile
County: Longford
Posts: 34



As for Superbluedub, Dublin of the 70s were a really really good team, I would just fall short of calling them GREAT, sorry, that's just my opinion

And you are entitled to your opinion,But in my humble opinion you are oh so very very wrong,That Dublin team from the 70s was without question a great team,Only bettered by the best team ever kerry 1975-1986.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2850 - 26/06/2013 14:16:48    1415953

bennybunny
County: Cork
Posts: 1772

I know you point to the years 1975-1986 and I will come back to them. Just for the record Cork won an All-Ireland in 1973, a Munster in 1974 and then unfortunately we came up against a great Dublin side. For the years that you mention (1975-1986), in that period to give you an indication of where Cork were at, we won 5 All Ireland under 21 championships, 2 All Minor championships and 5 All-Ireland club championships. Players like Jimmy Barry-Murphy, Sean Murphy, Billy Morgan, Ray Cummins, Dinny Allen were as good as any players in their era. Unfortunately, at that time Kerry had Mike Sheey, Egan, Ogie, Paidi, Spillane, Power, O'Keeffe et al and we did not win much at senior level. Also when we got to play Dublin we lost on both occasions (74 and 83-after a replay following a late late Barney Rock goal). Though we won nothing, we had a great side. It is a testimony to Kerry and Dublin greatness that we won nothing (still the haul that I did mention is impressive enough you'll agree).

Cork had a very poor senior side by their standards between 1975 and 1982. It was also a period when the seeded draw knocked the ambition out of the other Munster counties where hurling-dominated county boards agreed to having their senior football teams out of the championship by the first Sunday in May in case they got in the way of the county senior hirling team and their own senior hurling championship. Even Cork weren't too concerned about their footballers either and, of the great players you listed above, Jimmy Barry-Murphy and Ray Cummins gave up football to concentrate on hurling, Dinny Allen turned to soccer and Sean Murphy never developed into the footballer he might have been.

In fact, Munster wasn't the only province with a one-horse race as Dublin won six Leinster championships in a row, most of them without ever getting out of second gear, and no Ulster or Connacht team beat a side from Munster or Leinster between 1973 and 1991. There might have been one or two Kerry v Dublin classics dring the so-called Golden Age but, in terms of competitiveness, nearly every other game during that period was a predictable yawn.

Prof Honeydew (Limerick) - Posts: 1110 - 26/06/2013 14:55:09    1415985

TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 7440

The point was on repetitive cynical fouls, something donegal engaged in throughout the final. The thing is I have accepted that foul was a daft tackle and deserved a yellow, yet you avoid the subject of donegal's cynical team-fouling throughout the game.
I have never denied that Donegal foul cynically Master. My point is that every team does it yours included. It's just that we wre a lot better at it than Mayo were, story of the game really.
Just like you refuse to comment on the eye-gouging we have seen donegal engage in this year.
Hard to comment on something that was of no consequence Master. Was the Mayo player injured? No. Did he play on? Yes. Was there any complaint from Mayo? No. Does any other poster here mention it? No. Once again Master you are ploughing a lone furrow in your very own altered reality.
In reality, why should anyone engage with you on the troubles of their own county or any other county, when you actively avoid commenting on those of your own?
No problem at all commenting on the problems in Donegal. Its just that as All Ireland Champions we don't have that many.
Your own county are now widely regarded as the most cynical team in the country.
Master a wee secret. They are all at it, yourselves included. Donegal may well be better at it than Mayo but clumsiness is no defence. Any team that isn't cynical will win nothing. Sad but true.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2013 15:12:02    1416014

Muckross Head

You are wasting your energy there. If ye were in a pub together, he'd be sat on his arse by now I'd say!..or at leat there'd be a queue to put him there..

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 26/06/2013 15:53:57    1416060

bennybunny
County: Cork
Posts: 1773

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Muckross Head

You are wasting your energy there. If ye were in a pub together, he'd be sat on his arse by now I'd say!..or at leat there'd be a queue to put him there..

Benny,
I think he actually enjoys it & if I can bring a little happiness into an otherwise sad existence then I feel it is nothing less than my Christian duty to do so!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2013 16:41:47    1416107

ahsure.
County: Galway
Posts: 849

1415816 In fairness, it must be in decline if teams of the stature of Donegal are favourites to win All Ireland's.

Do you feel Galway players are genetically better that Donegal players in terms of stature?

As the current All Ireland champions, I can basically see how they would be among the favourites. But it's the "stature" word that sticks out in your comment. Please elaborate?

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 26/06/2013 16:51:46    1416120

MuckrossHead
County: Donegal
Posts: 1511

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bennybunny
County: Cork
Posts: 1773

1416060
Muckross Head

You are wasting your energy there. If ye were in a pub together, he'd be sat on his arse by now I'd say!..or at leat there'd be a queue to put him there..

Benny,
I think he actually enjoys it & if I can bring a little happiness into an otherwise sad existence then I feel it is nothing less than my Christian duty to do so!!
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I refer you to your classy Limerick on the competition thread, outstanding piece of prose Muck!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 26/06/2013 17:00:18    1416132

GaryMc82
County: Derry
Posts: 545

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ahsure.
County: Galway
Posts: 849

1415816 In fairness, it must be in decline if teams of the stature of Donegal are favourites to win All Ireland's.

Do you feel Galway players are genetically better that Donegal players in terms of stature?

As the current All Ireland champions, I can basically see how they would be among the favourites. But it's the "stature" word that sticks out in your comment. Please elaborate?

Gary,
You are dealing with a man who has a bit of a blind spot about Donegal. Either Daniel O'Donnell told him to f**k off one night when he asked him to sing Galway Bay or a fine looking Donegal man took a woman off him. Either way there are enough chips on ashure's shoulders to tar roads with.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2013 17:04:49    1416137

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 7508

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I refer you to your classy Limerick on the competition thread, outstanding piece of prose Muck!

Cheers brend,
Can't take all the credit though. I am paying the kids 50c each if they come up with a good one. Daughter No 4 is showing great promise!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2013 17:10:23    1416143

I refer you to your classy Limerick on the competition thread, outstanding piece of prose Muck!
Brilliant bendantheredhead, praising muck's limerick as a work of PROSE, and he fell for it......

beal (Mayo) - Posts: 1388 - 26/06/2013 18:08:35    1416220

I am paying the kids 50c each if they come up with a good one.
Do I detect some Cavan ancestry, muck??

beal (Mayo) - Posts: 1388 - 26/06/2013 19:03:39    1416261

beal
County: Mayo
Posts: 479

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I refer you to your classy Limerick on the competition thread, outstanding piece of prose Muck!
Brilliant bendantheredhead, praising muck's limerick as a work of PROSE, and he fell for it......

Au contraire beal au contraire,
I did wonder at the use of the word prose but decided to wallow in "classy" & "outstanding" instead. Part & parcel of being a Donegal man, positivity oozing from every classy & outstanding pore.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2013 19:18:42    1416271

Positivity? ....more like self deception!

beal (Mayo) - Posts: 1388 - 26/06/2013 19:26:37    1416275

Maybe so beal maybe so, but it is better than the alternative!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2013 19:32:14    1416281

Football is in decline!
Kerry football is finished!
The Ulster teams are evil!

Three things we seem to hear every year and three things that are never true.

Treaty_Exile (Limerick) - Posts: 386 - 26/06/2013 19:38:20    1416289