square_ball_69
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Hyped up Westmeath half back line? Out half back line is easily our weakest line. Everyone in Westmeath knows that. If anything Sharry was being hyped up and I thought he played well yesterday. I don't even think the other lads should be starting so I'm bit sure where you're getting this hype.

According to Marty Morrisey the Westmeath half back line was amongst the best in the country.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 02/06/2013 12:38:25    1396899

Meath are miles off Dublin that's obvious however they are never intimidated by playing them.
Unlike many other counties. That comes from tradition, Kerry have it, Dublin it too.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 02/06/2013 12:45:13    1396903

That's where I heard it on the playback this morning.

Bluewave (Dublin) - Posts: 552 - 02/06/2013 12:46:04    1396905

Tradition can go out the window. Meath are absolutely nowhere near standard of Dublin. It would be great to see a Kildare louth final. Louth could put it up to them but not the dubs in croker, but in saying that also, Kildare are a lot further on since 2010. Dubs should be made move out if croker for their away games. Look how close Longford came a few years back.
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They should, But that wont happen anytime soon.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13659 - 02/06/2013 13:01:44    1396922

Meath are miles off Dublin that's obvious however they are never intimidated by playing them.
Unlike many other counties. That comes from tradition, Kerry have it, Dublin it too.
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IF Dublin get over Kildare and IF Meath get over Wicklaaaa and Louth.. Dublin will beat Meath.. Nowhere near as good as Dublin, The winner of Dublin v Kildare wins Leinster.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13659 - 02/06/2013 13:03:37    1396924

Its very hard to judge Dublin on that display yesterday. They were never under any real pressure and never even got out of first gear. Division 2 must be awful if Westmeath got promoted because they were truly so inferior yesterday. They were very naive in possession and their distribution into their forward line was very poor.

Their work rate was nowhere near that of Dublin. You could see the difference immediately when you saw how Dublin's half forward line kept pressing Westmeath whenever they were coming out of defense. You never saw Dublin under that kind of pressure when they strolled out of defense. If you're going to have any chance of beating Dublin you need to disrupt quality ball going into their forward line. I'd question Dublin's quality up front when they meet a strong defense and midfield.

I expect Kildare to test Dublin.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 790 - 02/06/2013 13:14:01    1396940

I don't know why everyone's making out Louth are in the semi-final already, if anyone knows anything about louth then you should know they can be very inconsistent and I can almost guarantee they wont be as good as they were against laois. I think it will be wexford v meath in the semi-final with us just shading it and for anyone who wants to see a half decent game of football for the leinster final then we should be hoping that meath are in the leinster final because if either wexford, louth or Wicklow play Dublin in the final the game will be over in about 10 minutes.

meathalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 02/06/2013 13:17:02    1396942

Jaysus lads I'm fairly sure Marty just got confused. Jarlaith Burns said out half forward line was one of the best in the country on Seo Sport. He was talking about Ger Egan, Kieran Martin and Callum McCormack. Only one of which was playing half forward yesterday and he was our best player. Think Marty might of been thinking of that..

square_ball_69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 826 - 02/06/2013 13:19:44    1396944

Wayno I agree that's what will happen.

My point is Meath have never been beaten by Dublin before the walk onto
field unlike most other Leinster counties.

Meath are a shadow of there great teams and the most obvious thing the lack
Is there old physicality.

My point overall is tradition counts for a lot in GAA.


Teams/supporters of teams that have traditionally been knocked out of
the championship get used to that and don't expect anything else.

Counties who have a tradition of winning it's different, Meath people who grew
up with Geraghty,Giles,Fay have that believe in there county.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 02/06/2013 13:28:15    1396954

There need not be any talk of how Meath would do against Dublin, I'm far more concerned about our path to a Leinster final than playing Dublin in one. Ps never let it be said that we can't beat Dublin or vica versa for that matter, I've never once gone into a game v Dublin not believing we can win.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 02/06/2013 13:45:26    1396967

I expect Kildare to test Dublin.

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Of corse Kildare will "test" Dublin, But I will be shocked if they beat them. Dublin are just the best team in a very poor provence. Realistically Dublin are the only team in leinster with any hope of playing football in September. Games are won on the pitch and not on paper I agree but even so I completely expect Dublin to kick on and beat Kildare in the semi final , Wouldn't surprise me if it was by the minimum , But wouldn't surprise me if they won by 8 9 or even 10 points either.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13659 - 02/06/2013 13:56:47    1396974

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There need not be any talk of how Meath would do against Dublin, I'm far more concerned about our path to a Leinster final than playing Dublin in one. Ps never let it be said that we can't beat Dublin or vica versa for that matter, I've never once gone into a game v Dublin not believing we can win)

I think thats exactly what westkerry was making. . If a meath player was saying it be damage limitations exercise and manganese going on about structure. There would be public hangings in square in navan, while unlikely we would win, no one on team or management would believe that they cant.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/06/2013 14:36:19    1397012

Should Kildare beat Dublin then it's not by any means a foregone conclusion that Kildare will win Leinster. However should Dublin beat Kildare then that will be that, Dublin will win Leinster.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 02/06/2013 15:02:32    1397030

Headtheball1
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Giving Dublin home advantage in an AWAY game for them is a complete joke. Counties need to start standing up to the central council or whoever makes the decisions about playing games in Croke Park. It's like MAn UTd playing 80 percent of matches at OLd TRafford. Huge imbalance in fairness driven by the money men. I can guarantee Westmeath would have challenged DUblin a lot more if the game was allowed to be played as a Home match for them.

you simply dont look at fixture list had westmeath beat dublin every match they would have played after that would have been in croke park if they went on to win the all ireland.
the leinster semi final,leinster final,all ireland quarter finals,semi finals and final and thats regardless of who they were playing.
would have been interesting to hear if westmeath did win and won the all ireland that way would we hear the same excuses thrown at them that they got to play all their matches in croke park and the first game at home in mullingar.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/06/2013 11:44:35    1397474

MuckrossHead
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County: Dublin
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Our forwards laid down clear marker to any team if your going to beat us your going to have to come out and outscore us.

An example of stating the bleeding obvious there Hill. Football has always been like that, hurling too. You have to outscore the opposition if you are going to win, or am I missing something.........

no your wrong over the last 3 years is been about out defending the opposition and conceeding less then the other team.
donegal have been a prime example of that.
if dublin go 4 or 5 points up on donegal in a match then donegal will have to change their game thats the point.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/06/2013 11:46:17    1397475

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westkerry
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Yes I I've a few contacts in the Royal county!
Meath have traditionally put it up to Dublin and beat Kildare last year they won Leinster
a few years back.

Tradition can go out the window. Meath are absolutely nowhere near standard of Dublin. It would be great to see a Kildare louth final. Louth could put it up to them but not the dubs in croker, but in saying that also, Kildare are a lot further on since 2010. Dubs should be made move out if croker for their away games. Look how close Longford came a few years back.

honestly your really think that westmeath would have won that game on saturdayhad it of been in mullingar?
is a pitch worth 16 points come off it.
dublin played most leinster champo games between the 70-2006 outside croke park and how many times were they beaten?
dublin would have beaten westmeath by the same margin regardless of where the game was played.
longford put it up to dublin that day yeah but simply to say because of where the game was played is wrong.
sure wexford arent classed a top team and they have put it up to us in croker 3 times over the last few years.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/06/2013 11:52:55    1397480

if dublin go 4 or 5 points up on donegal in a match then donegal will have to change their game thats the point.

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I think you're right yeah!!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13659 - 03/06/2013 12:07:03    1397492

If that game was in Mullingar it would of been 5 points tops. Look at our record there(granted against weaker opposition) in the last 2 years. 100% record in the league this year, our only 3 wins in the league were there the year before. Beat Louth and really and truly left Kerry's scalp behind us the next day out.
We wouldn't of won but it would of been far closer. Saying the venue doesn't matter is ludicrous. Look at statistics across all sports and it will tell you the home team wins more often than not.

square_ball_69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 826 - 03/06/2013 12:48:51    1397542

square_ball_69
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If that game was in Mullingar it would of been 5 points tops. Look at our record there(granted against weaker opposition) in the last 2 years. 100% record in the league this year, our only 3 wins in the league were there the year before. Beat Louth and really and truly left Kerry's scalp behind us the next day out.
We wouldn't of won but it would of been far closer. Saying the venue doesn't matter is ludicrous. Look at statistics across all sports and it will tell you the home team wins more often than not.

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Wishful thinking, Dublin were always going win big, no matter the ground.

Actually playing in Cusack Park etc. would be better for Dublin in the early rounds of Leinster! These matches in Croker are a dis-advantage to us!

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 03/06/2013 13:26:05    1397575

hill16no1man
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MuckrossHead
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hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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Our forwards laid down clear marker to any team if your going to beat us your going to have to come out and outscore us.

An example of stating the bleeding obvious there Hill. Football has always been like that, hurling too. You have to outscore the opposition if you are going to win, or am I missing something.........

no your wrong over the last 3 years is been about out defending the opposition and conceeding less then the other team.
donegal have been a prime example of that.
if dublin go 4 or 5 points up on donegal in a match then donegal will have to change their game thats the point.

Fair enough but I don't think JMcG will be so stupid as to engage in a slugging match trying to outscore Dublin, that would be suicide as it would mean playing the game on Dublin's terms. No I would expect to see a rerun of the Donegal defensive display of 2011 to try & frustrate Dublin, with Donegal packing the defence, trying to force turnovers & going on fast breaks up the field to the best full forward line in the country.

Assuming they ever get to meet of course.......

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 03/06/2013 13:42:44    1397592