Thank you very much because my point has just been emphasized. Talking about last year and other counties instead of concentrating on 2013 and your own team.

My advice is to save your energy and effort and concentrate on helping your own county to try and regain some semblance of respectibility after your fall from grace. Meath football would be in a lot better place if that happened.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 14/05/2013 09:57:18    1383514

Too many Meath and Galway fans (and one is too many) worried about the set-ups in other counties rather than working to improve their own.

Too many Galway and Meath fans believing that they have the footballers but only need to bulk up.

Too many Galway and Meath fans living in the past and not being able to see the wood from the trees. That is despite other people advising them otherwise. It'll always be the managers fault because they definitely have the players.

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This would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Good man Sedico, keep them coming. Alright now, coming back to reality for a minute. What other counties set ups are us Galway folk worried about? Not once have we mentioned that we have the footballers currently, but at underage we do have the potential to come good again.

I promised myself I wouldn't bring Kildare into this discussion but to be honest, you've left me little choice. Not being able to see the wood from the trees? Coming from a Kildare man? HA. Now this is funny. Your kind haven't won an All Ireland since 1928 for a reason you know, you have never been good enough despite what ye up there may think. We proved it to ye in 1998, yet again in 2000 and to a certain extent, we did it again this year. I'm sure ye would live in the past in Kildare too if you could, but that 'glorious' past is so long ago hardly anyone is alive now to recall it.

Anyway, rant over about that "leathcheann".

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1779 - 14/05/2013 14:33:04    1383771

@ashoure. Well said man well said. No past to look back on, no present to speak of, and no future either, unless cavan produces them for them

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/05/2013 16:41:42    1383931

Our present is better than yours. Our future will also be... because of the flaws I outlined in my previous post.

Galway have talent and still fail cause their attitude to hard work stinks (Which is criminal). Meath fail because they have no talent and wont involve with the times, however their attitude is always top notch(Only gets you so far). You need a mix of both and Kildare have a better mix than these counties. Still ALONG way off the top counties though... which doesn't say much for yous.

cilldara13 (Kildare) - Posts: 261 - 14/05/2013 17:17:18    1383991

cilldara13
County: Kildare
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1383991 Our present is better than yours. Our future will also be... because of the flaws I outlined in my previous post.

Galway have talent and still fail cause their attitude to hard work stinks (Which is criminal). Meath fail because they have no talent and wont involve with the times, however their attitude is always top notch(Only gets you so far). You need a mix of both and Kildare have a better mix than these counties. Still ALONG way off the top counties though... which doesn't say much for yous.

Thats some sweeping statement, very ignorant statement to be honest.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 14/05/2013 17:31:55    1384009

This thread has nothing to do with Kildare. Its a thread about Meath and Galway which I have commented on. Please don't turn it into another Meath v Kildare (or Galway) thread.

Again both of you have re-enforced my original post Instead of debating the issues I brought up, you have taken the immature way out and slagged off Kildare. Why not slag off the county of the OP?

I've given an honest comment on the state of the game in both your county's and you can't hack it. Seems like you both have no bother giving your tuppence worth when it comes to my county and no dount you will continue to do so, but you both get stroppy when its the other way around.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 14/05/2013 17:41:47    1384023

cilldara13
County: Kildare
Posts: 217

1383991
Our present is better than yours. Our future will also be... because of the flaws I outlined in my previous post.

Galway have talent and still fail cause their attitude to hard work stinks (Which is criminal). Meath fail because they have no talent and wont involve with the times, however their attitude is always top notch(Only gets you so far). You need a mix of both and Kildare have a better mix than these counties. Still ALONG way off the top counties though... which doesn't say much for yous.

What exactly at present makes Kildare better than Galway and Meath? Since Kildare last won something Meath have won 2 Leinsters and Galway have won an All Ireland.Its funny because the Dubs can come on here and actually discuss the topic, without boasting about themselves and Dublin actually have something to boast about. Unless these Kildare people are tipping 90 years of age they have not seen their county win an All Ireland. They also seem to forget that Galway U21s have just won the All Ireland beating them along the way and Meath beat them in the championship last year. And this poster is not even correct in relation to Meath, the attitude is not always top notch, that's something that has been discussed a lot over on the Meath page.

ClassApart (Meath) - Posts: 1200 - 14/05/2013 17:50:18    1384033

FFS I'm outta here. Another BS Kildare v Meath thread. Enjoy it. Good luck.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 14/05/2013 18:00:19    1384045

The points that sedico and cildara make are laughable.
I don't think any galway or meath fan would swap what yous have at the moment.
We are both aware of where we are but both of us are still better off in relative terms, meath are going for 3 leinster final appearance in 4 years, in the time that kildare feel have been their golden generation they have made one final appearance, reached one AI semi while meath have two and also won leinster, kildare have not beat any of Dublin, Tyrone, mayo etc meath have beat them all during their "golden "age.
The only difference hear is that what both galway and meath view as mediocrity is seen as glorious success within kildare. We aim higher and expect more.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/05/2013 18:05:51    1384048

Karma says mes amis,its good to know that Dublin have such an ethnic diverse following.
Can you please enligthen us further on your Hindu culture.

atta (Meath) - Posts: 714 - 14/05/2013 18:06:46    1384051

Taking lectures on football from a kildare man sedico, ??,,,?,??,
I don't think so.!!!!!!

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/05/2013 18:35:58    1384073

What sort of traumatic event happened you in Kildare, RD? Thats all that could explain your hatred (your own words from a previous post) and fixation. We put ow Meath beat us last year, who has come out on top in most recent meetings? What does that say about you, taking 4-5 attempts for your boys to beat a bunch of "gym monkeys".
Yeah Galway beat us in the U-21 but not before we put your boys away, where does that leave you?

Thankfully I am married into a Meath family and have attended many Meath matches with my in-laws to know you are the exception but jeez boy get a life, this bitterness will hold you back when you leave school.
Oh yeah, if this post reads a bit childish its because it is to suit the target segment

commander (Kildare) - Posts: 225 - 14/05/2013 19:26:24    1384103

This topic is about the downfall of Meath and Galway football. Please refrain from turning it into another Meath v Kildare discussion. Anything off topic will not be posted.

Thanks, Admin.

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2275 - 14/05/2013 19:46:59    1384115

Okay from the top no one in Kildare thinks this is our golden generation...

Can we just draw a line under this stuff? If yourself and ahsure want to talk about Meath and Galway then talk about it instead of constantly posting this sort of stuff about Kildare. Like this...

The only difference hear is that what both galway and meath view as mediocrity is seen as glorious success within kildare. We aim higher and expect more.

You say your comments are not intended for majority of Kildare fans just some but then you say stuff like this. I retracted my point when making sweeping statements. Can you please pull yer head in and think about if you need to do the same? Isn't there supposed to be some sort of unofficial truce here for this sort of stuff anyway?

Is there actually any respect between our counties on your behalf? It doesn't feel like it.

Here are the facts... Kildare have shown much better than consistency than Meath but have failed on the big days. Meath are inconsistent but show a remarkable ability to pull it together on one-off big days. Kildare supporters generally feel Meath trade a bit too much of their past when referencing yer superiority. Meath supporters generally feel we are cocky upstarts without sufficient heritage to be mixing with the big boys and we need to know our place. If we're honest almost conversation whether it's talking about natural footballers, McGeeney, Banty, league performances, championship prospects, qualifier draws, Under-21's all just re-visits these themes over and over again. If every time one posters sticks in a barb about the other are we going to keep revisiting this? I know it's hard to resist sticking your oar in, I mean look at that other rubbish reactionary post I lashed out with.

But if we're honest Kildare admire Meath's ability to raise it for a big games when ye're backs against the wall and I'm sure many Meath supporters would like to be getting the most out of their players and consistently reaching quarter finals and doing well in Division 1 like we did this year.

We're like the Judean People's Front and and the People's Front of Judea squabbling when we should be focussing on trying to take down our common enemy... The Dubs.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 14/05/2013 20:00:57    1384125

Well said admin. I wouldn't go as far as downfall of either county, yes neither is where they use to be but if galway beat mayo and meath reach leinster final will that be seen as improvement? Steady as she goes? Or continued downfall?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/05/2013 20:03:34    1384128

Mea culpa, Me paenitet.

commander (Kildare) - Posts: 225 - 14/05/2013 20:04:13    1384129

Wow DH, that came from the heart.

commander (Kildare) - Posts: 225 - 14/05/2013 20:08:02    1384132

Dh indeed you are right, and in hindsight that particular comment was way over the top and uncalled for, and I retract it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/05/2013 21:03:20    1384160

I agree with the admin the debate is the downfall of meath and galway let it continue that way and leave kildare out of it I mean there are posters from counties giving their two cents for e.g even a mayo poster wrote Galway are still trying to get over the joe kernan fiasco
no pop at him or when was the last time Mayo won a final yet when a kildare poster gives his comments the hatred for Kildare comes out from the usual few culprits.If you have a look it wasn't a Kildare poster who set up the thread!
So for god sake less of the Kildare V Meath as im sure there will be plenty in the summer especially if they happen to meet and let the thread debate continue on topic.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 14/05/2013 21:29:14    1384178

AthCliath
County: Dublin
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Galway have talent and still fail cause their attitude to hard work stinks (Which is criminal).

Thats some sweeping statement, very ignorant statement to be honest.

Well I'm just being brutally honest. I hate when people say these players devote night after night to training and preparation, give them respect. Its easy to show to training, the hard part is putting the commitment in. Lets call a spade a spade here, they have talent, ok? they had an All Ireland winning manager in charge(Joe Kernin), ok? and many good managers before and after that... are you telling me its the all those managers fault? I don't believe it is. So the managers have been good, the players have the talent... so whats the problem? ATTITUDE. But attitude can fixed easier than talent created.

In relation to Meath and Kildare. Division one semi final, beat Cork in cork, Mayo in mayo, Donegal at HQ, and Kerry in Newbridge (I concede that at least 2 of those teams are still A LOT better than us). Yous lost to Monaghan in a Division 3 final? That alone tells us Kildare are in a better position right now? Its ignorance that makes Meath so good yet so hated also. They bow to nobody, or gve credit where credits due, especially to rivals, even when its clear as day in front of them. I suppose that in itself is a good way for PLAYERS to approach every game and that's maybe why yous HAVE been so successful.

cilldara13 (Kildare) - Posts: 261 - 15/05/2013 13:04:30    1384390