Looking from the outside I would have though Meath should have appointed Colm O'Rourke by now considering all the work and players he would have dealt with at St Pats Navan.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1800 - 12/05/2013 16:22:06    1382541

marooned I was referring to the last 10 years in particular, as I said, regarding Galway, I think there is always hope there, it's Meath that are in trouble!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 12/05/2013 16:37:00    1382549

Think galway still recovering from joe kernan fiasco

beal (Mayo) - Posts: 1388 - 12/05/2013 16:40:15    1382551

Byanthon, there is a reason why O'Rourke hasn't involved himself, he knows theres nothing there!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 12/05/2013 16:40:39    1382553

O'Rourke has been interviewed twice and on both occasion, used it as a platform for promoting a total structure change, when pointed out that it would be more useful to bring such issues to CB, he said fine and endorsed mod this time,
To be honest he doesn't want the job. This was his last chance, next manager of meath will be between, andy mcentee, Graham geraghty Darren Fay, with maybe one or two others on short list. So the O'Rourke conversation is probably over.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/05/2013 16:46:13    1382557

royaldunne
County: Meath
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1382513 Ah jasus lads, Dublin win one all ire in 18 years with a population of nearly a million plus, add to that every game is a home game, rather than look at other counties, surely the question is why has Dublin sooooo underperformed

I wasnt having a pop at meath or galway, more wondering what meath and galway lads thought were the reasons why they fell back , im not talking about how many allirelands teams have won, or anything , im talking about being in the mix every year , they would be two counties that years gone by you would always be weary of, now they dont carry the same threat and are below the group of 6 or 7 teams that are mentioned every year.
thats not to say either cant get to a quarter final , but before that wasnt a big deal for ye, now it is.

Your intentions may have been honourable but unfortunately when you start a topic like this it gives others the opportunity to gleefully rub it in, we got to All Ireland Semi Finals in 2007 and 2009 and like it or not won Leinster in 2010 beating Dublin along the way thus becoming, sadly for Leinster football, the only county to beat them in Leinster since 2005. We also last year beat the supposed only threat to Dublin being Kildare so to suggest as was said that we had all but dissapeared is just either a silly attempt of rising emotions or just a stupid ill informed comment. We are not where we once were of that there is no doubt but we have a young squad and a young fresh management that we hope will bring us trophies in the near future, Galway appear to have good young players coming to the fore and I expect them to be back in the hunt reguarly quite soon

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3772 - 12/05/2013 17:29:27    1382593

Hey Richieq, I am VERY well informed when it comes to Meath football, of course I like to get a rise from the Meath lads, that's our obligation to eachother. I still stand by what I said, once you were right in our face, now I can't see you!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 12/05/2013 18:05:09    1382616

i honestly believe galway have struggled since the swarm defence became popular
we allways produce good players
but wrwe getting beaten by teams who on paper have less talented players
whojust work harder put men behind balltackle hard turn overs etc
the amount of games in qualifiers weve lost by one point is unreal
dont think thers that much wrong we havent adaptedto the new style
there every good group young players coming through from under 21
and a very promising minor team

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1481 - 12/05/2013 19:23:24    1382662

we allways produce good players

Just like Meath huh? Never the players fault who are obviously all that rare breed, the 'natural footballer'. Always someone else's fault. What's funny for all the talk of structures, county boards and management you'll never hear a supporter from Meath or Galway say the players they have aren't good enough. In fact I bet that if most posters from both counties are honest here they'll admit right now they think they have the players to beat anyone.

I would love to be a player in either county. You can finish every year in whatever shape knowing that someone else will take all the blame as you get told you're brilliant and watch yet another manager getting the chop.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 12/05/2013 19:51:36    1382674

doublehop

Just like Meath huh? Never the players fault who are obviously all that rare breed, the 'natural footballer'. Always someone else's fault. What's funny for all the talk of structures, county boards and management you'll never hear a supporter from Meath or Galway say the players they have aren't good enough. In fact I bet that if most posters from both counties are honest here they'll admit right now they think they have the players to beat anyone.

I would love to be a player in either county. You can finish every year in whatever shape knowing that someone else will take all the blame as you get told you're brilliant and watch yet another manager getting the chop.


That's a rather hate filled rant, anyway I don't think we have the players to beat anyone at the minute because I watch Meath play on a regular basis and I'm not delusional.

Your branding of fans from certain counties is both ignorant and distasteful doublehop, take a long look at yourself lad.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/05/2013 20:26:44    1382694

Doublehop I'll be the first Meath fan to admit that there's a number of Meath players on our current team who are not good enough. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is in denial or delusional.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 790 - 12/05/2013 20:28:32    1382697

Atthacliata wasn't havin a pop at you, yes you are right, of course we are below what is expected from meath, but too answer yours and dh point, the CB within meath were a shambles for a very long time we rested on our laurels of that there is no doubt, failed despite the success of st pats etc to bring through the talent, way too much points scoring within meath gaa, way too many old scores trying to be settled. We just expected it to be all right on the night Jack, it wasnt.
Id argue with anyone that we have as good a players as most counties, if keoghan, the two Reillys, Newman, Bray, and even joe on his day would have made any team of boylan.
We didn't move with the modern game, we were intent on the traditional catch and kick game, Spillane said we were last team using it. Why that maybe honorable it won't win many titles.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/05/2013 20:37:23    1382706

Double you sound like your annoyed Meath and Galway are getting all the attention in here. Like it or not both Meath and Galway have been more successful in their respective provinces the past few years. The only reason Kildare were not considered by the man who set up the thread is because you were never a dominant team over a long period of time like Meath and Galway were.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 12/05/2013 20:42:31    1382709

AthCliath it was a reasonable thread to commence. Part of the problem is that Meath and us have not moved with the times and depend on traditional values to win matches which is alien to modern day football. Of course there is more to it than this. Meath and Galway typically would have more natural players than most counties but unfortunately that is not as important these days. Still can work for underage football mind you.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1996 - 12/05/2013 20:45:46    1382716

Sorry lads, but it's more than just not moving with the times, Dublin won the league playing the gung-ho way, Kerry won all their all-Ireland's doing likewise, blanket or attacking, Meath just don't have the players.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 12/05/2013 21:04:12    1382728

By the time you get to seniors you need all attributes , only thing missing should be-experience , that leads you back to how they arrive at minors and u21s level , in other words , development squads , quality coaching , and consistency through the ranks , it doesn't bring guarantees but it gives you a best chance of success

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/05/2013 21:14:07    1382738

The problem with Meath football is that it no longer comes down to footballing ability. It now comes down to where your from and your surname.....

RossiesRock (Meath) - Posts: 369 - 12/05/2013 21:18:58    1382741

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County: Meath
Posts: 299

1382741
The problem with Meath football is that it no longer comes down to footballing ability. It now comes down to where your from and your surname.....

Well if that is true, then Meath are history!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 12/05/2013 21:21:24    1382743

RossiesRock
County: Meath
Posts: 299

1382741
The problem with Meath football is that it no longer comes down to footballing ability. It now comes down to where your from and your surname.....


God I hope above comment is incorrect , as it would be a tragedy , no matter what county you are , as a Dub I want to play your best as Im sure other fans would feel the same , dont want to play and beat a county's privileged 15 , no want to beat or lose to your best 15

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/05/2013 21:26:24    1382745

realdub
I think Mick O'Dowd is trying to re-fix the problem. But God you'd wonder how people can get persuaded so easily sure some lads are no good but still holding a position.

RossiesRock (Meath) - Posts: 369 - 12/05/2013 21:26:55    1382746