Ah, sure you could well be right Paddy, but unlike the fare that was dished up in Salthill on Sunday, you will be priveleged to witness a bona fide contest between two of Ulsters finest footballing counties. I have a feeing that Lockjaws waiter could well be right, Donegal to win by 4 points after a tough and uncompromising encounter, don't you just love the Ulster championship.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 21/05/2013 11:45:56    1388054

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1388054 Ah, sure you could well be right Paddy, but unlike the fare that was dished up in Salthill on Sunday, you will be priveleged to witness a bona fide contest between two of Ulsters finest footballing counties. I have a feeing that Lockjaws waiter could well be right, Donegal to win by 4 points after a tough and uncompromising encounter, don't you just love the Ulster championship.

Given the standard of Ulster football at the moment, it is not a great boast.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 21/05/2013 11:52:53    1388060

It's a bit of shadow boxing this game really.

Both teams will be in the quarter finals in anyways as there won't be anyone, with the exception of the loser between Cork/Kerry, in the qualifiers that will come close to touching either side, and the winner will stroll through the rest of the Ulster Championship.

It is a dress rehearsal for bigger battles to come.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13846 - 21/05/2013 12:21:41    1388096

Just got me ticket last night, its gonna be a long week with monday bank holiday off. Heres hoping sallys is rocking sunday night after the game! Really cannot call it, tyrone nowhere near the finished article after seeing all the league games and agree dont think they were as ghood in league final as everyone made out. On the flip side though Donegal are bound to turn up slightly shakey and bound to be a tad of doubt in the heads for first 10 mins after relegation and a few key players having no game time. Think the 2 donnellys will be key for tyrone, if they perform we have a chance. Atmosphere will be electric

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 21/05/2013 12:32:03    1388104

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don't you just love the Ulster championship.

Not at all actually. The treatment of jamie clarke at the weekend is a good indicator as to why... Also, I find the now obligatory engineered handbags at every opportunity so predictable that it has become tiresome. I take the point that the games can be closer than in other provinces, but at what cost?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/05/2013 12:36:38    1388109

paddyogall, if that remark came from any other provence other than Connacht I would of course respond in kind, but standards, seriously!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 21/05/2013 13:18:43    1388158

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don't you just love the Ulster championship.

Not at all actually. The treatment of jamie clarke at the weekend is a good indicator as to why... Also, I find the now obligatory engineered handbags at every opportunity so predictable that it has become tiresome. I take the point that the games can be closer than in other provinces, but at what cost?
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brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 21/05/2013 13:21:23    1388159

There were as many punches thrown in Salthill as Cavan.

Also Jamie Clarke was marked outta of it, much like Michael Meehan.

2003 wants it's incorrect ideas back methinks!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13846 - 21/05/2013 13:30:40    1388173

I dont see how that makes these spoiler tactics any easier to watch brend. My mammy finds them more tiresome than I do!

I never said anything about punches mesamis. If it was just punches then they would get the line. This stuff doesnt get punished because of the way it is disguised. Also, clarke wasnt marked out of the game, he was man-handled out of it. Fair enough they got away with it, but it is an insult to his ability to say he was marked out of it.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/05/2013 13:50:37    1388195

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Donegal V Tyrone

I really fear for Tyrone this weekend, I feel a Galway type beating for Tyrone and cant see how they have a possible chance of beating Donegal. Now dont get me wrong Donegal are no world beaters and are possibly one of the worst All Ireland winners in a generation. But I am afraid I cant see Tyrone doing it.

Haha Good man Paddy, still on a high from the weekend I see!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 21/05/2013 14:36:46    1388255

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I never said anything about punches mesamis. If it was just punches then they would get the line. This stuff doesnt get punished because of the way it is disguised. Also, clarke wasnt marked out of the game, he was man-handled out of it. Fair enough they got away with it, but it is an insult to his ability to say he was marked out of it.

Clarke was marked outta the game. Double marked at times and whenever he got the ball he was surrounded by Cavan players.

The same way Meehan was marked out of it by excellent Mayo defensive tactics.

Very little difference between the 2 games in regards tactics, and some of the less desirable aspects of our game on show in both it should be noted.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13846 - 21/05/2013 14:49:07    1388264

Or the way any Galway forward was swarmed excellently by some very diligent Mayo players on Sunday I might add.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13846 - 21/05/2013 14:51:36    1388266

Manhandled?

Where's the evidence he was man handled?

He was held scoreless he scored AFTER the ref blew up and the Cavan players stopped.

Given the way he was playing, had the ref allowed play to go on he would have missed. The ref did Armagh a favour!

potnorwindow (Cavan) - Posts: 363 - 21/05/2013 14:55:28    1388269

Incorrect again mesamis. Re-stating the same point doesnt make that point true. The instance where clark got a yellow card (I still havent figured that one out) he was struck, mauled, roughed up and even got a stab of a boot to the back of his head for his trouble. By about 4 or 5 different players no less. Can you point out where michael meehan got the same? Now Im not saying there was some good defending on the day also, but there is no defending that piece of play where in my opinion he was totally let down by the ref. I mean it was clearly special treatment, and 75% of it was outside the rules of the game, much of it blatently so. There should have been at least 3 yellow cards to cavan players and the ball should have been moved in for the free. There is nothing wrong with intensity and tough tackling, but what he got was closer to assault. I mean he got tackled and the ref blew then all of a sudden they all piled in and it was war, that was clearly pre-meditated, there was no provocation at all.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/05/2013 15:16:30    1388290

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1388158 paddyogall, if that remark came from any other provence other than Connacht I would of course respond in kind, but standards, seriously!

Connacht is a far superior province to Ulster, sure didnt even London beat fermanagh not long ago in the championship.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 21/05/2013 15:40:58    1388319

ULSTER = ALL IRELAND CHAMPIONS = DONEGAL
ULSTER = NATIONAL LEAGUE FINALISTS = TYRONE
ULSTER = DIVISON 2 CHAMPIONS = DERRY
ULSTER = DIVISON 3 CHAMPIONS = MONAGHAN

yet galling tells us that Ulster is the weakest province. Tis a terrible thing to be so consumed with such bitterness and jealousy galling. I wouldn't be so unkind as to say anything negative about poor football west of the Shannon other than pity is the only word I think appropriate. Galling's attack on Ulster is like that Peter Sellers film The Mouse That Roared when the mad leader of a small, unimportant state declares war on the big power. Criticism from galling is like throwing a baked bean at a hippo and about as relevant.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 21/05/2013 15:43:01    1388324

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1388158 paddyogall, if that remark came from any other provence other than Connacht I would of course respond in kind, but standards, seriously!

Connacht is a far superior province to Ulster, sure didnt even London beat fermanagh not long ago in the championship.
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brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 21/05/2013 15:46:53    1388329

Brend, don't mock the deluded and bewildered; they require our sympathy and understanding.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 21/05/2013 15:50:50    1388337

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Championship is all that matters Ulsterwhine, and when it comes to championship football Connacht teams conitnously blow Ulster teams out of the water. I remember the beatings Armagh and Down got in the championship last year. It was hard not to feel sorry for them.

As I mentioned above Donegal are one of the poorest All Ireland winners in a generation. Certain interventions in the Media from certain Northern Irish commentators went a long way to Dongeal winning the All Ireland last year against Mayo. That trick is gone this year though.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 21/05/2013 15:51:36    1388340

If u took Mayo out of Connaught, most U21 county teams would compete for the Connaught Championship.. It really is that poor. You can say all you like about Ulster football, but look back over the last 12 years or so, at the number of ulster counties playing and winning in Aug/Sept in the championship. Down, Donegal, Tyrone and Armagh have all been in finals, as well as Derry and Fermanagh being in semis. Other than Mayo and Galway, Cork and Kerry, Ulster and Leinster are by far the 2 most competitive provinces

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3858 - 21/05/2013 15:54:23    1388343