Admin: without wanting to appear to be on the high moral ground, this thread should be shut down. A bit of banter and fun is one thing, but the parents,families and friends of the lads will read this....what if it was YOUR kids or friends ???. The lads are playing the game with pride and honesty, regardless of the result. Have we not learned of the impact of on-line media and the devastating consequences that it can have?

ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 295 - 11/04/2013 20:24:53    1366215

ExiledCuCu.

it would be one thing if the players had trained for months, and put in a huge effort to get better, but when the board dont bother, and when a half hearted attempt to field a team goes out, I doubt the players will worry too much about it. this happens every year, but Kilkenny are happy enough to leave it happen, and pick up their grant money cheque from Leinster council towards funding football.

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 615 - 11/04/2013 20:35:58    1366229

It's not an Under-8 sports day ExiledCuCu. What do you think is going to happen? They're going to tell Kilkenny it was a draw at the end? The score is going to be reported in the media and on GAA sites tomorrow. As was said earlier Kilkenny were the only county not to enter a team in the Leinster minor league. They didn't give a group of young players to prepare properly. If they can't do that at minor what do they think is going to happen in a few more years?

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 11/04/2013 20:44:24    1366236

Kilkenny need to get their act together. Being top dogs in hurling is all very well but this is cringeworthy.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 11/04/2013 20:48:52    1366245

And it finished 2-29 to 0-1. Not the players fault, the setup and lack of preparation that Kilkenny settle for in football would have ruined any teams chances.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 11/04/2013 20:50:49    1366247

james2011

I do not disagree at all with most of what you say: but the focus of ridicule should be at the KK County board. Encourage the young lads - someday KK may produce a Mattie Forde, Declan Browne, Kevin O'Brien, Declan McCabe, Spike Fagan, Leighton Glynn.

Put a motion forward a congress may be a better approach.

ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 295 - 11/04/2013 20:52:10    1366248

This thread is very wrong and should be closed! The young lads are out there playing for their county doing their best.. As a Kildare supporter I'm well used to been on the receiving end of those sort of hammerings.. Westmeath surely have gotten one or two in their day aswell!!! How wud your hurlers stand up to kilkenny's????

Shineonlily (Kildare) - Posts: 26 - 11/04/2013 21:03:01    1366256

ExiledCuCu
County: Cavan
Posts: 17

1366248 james2011

I do not disagree at all with most of what you say: but the focus of ridicule should be at the KK County board. Encourage the young lads - someday KK may produce a Mattie Forde, Declan Browne, Kevin O'Brien, Declan McCabe, Spike Fagan, Leighton Glynn.

Put a motion forward a congress may be a better approach.

Great post. These lads are 18 and under and have no powers as such to change the current situation in Kilkenny football.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 11/04/2013 21:17:44    1366269

People shouldn't be making fun of the players but Exiled is right, the Kilkenny county board can be ridiculed for this. The have absolutely no regard for football and its not fair on the players sending out a team to get slaughtered like this.

Football is not like hurling, hurling skills have to be honed when young but football can be picked up when older. If Kilkenny were serious about football, they could have a competitive minor team in 5 years time. Also football teams can be organised to limit beatings. There is obviously no structure in Kilkenny, does any other football county get beaten like this?

There are many teams at a lower level in hurling but as Kilkenny are the only county in Ireland so poor at football, its obvious the county board don't give two hoots about football.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1156 - 11/04/2013 21:31:46    1366289

Whoever scored the point tonight must be odds on to win "Kilkenny footballer of the year"

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 11/04/2013 21:40:07    1366297

These young lads of Kilkenny deserve to be applauded for togging out knowing what was ahead of them. The Kilkenny county board should hang their heads in shame knowing that this happens every year and continue to have youngsters humiliated on the national stage. They could take note of Tipperary's progress. Very strong now from a moderate base only a few years. There is talent in Kilkenny. It just needs structure and disipline and most important, backing from the county board to see it through. And before anyone says it, the same can be said about Donegal in hurling. I for one would love to all county boards promote both codes equally.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 11/04/2013 21:47:58    1366305

MuckrossHead
County: Donegal
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1366245 Kilkenny need to get their act together. Being top dogs in hurling is all very well but this is cringeworthy.


Any Kilkenny inter county hurling team would do the same and worse to most counties including your own and Kildare, so less of the high horse. They have limited resources and choose not to bother much with what is a second rate and deteriorating game.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 12/04/2013 08:02:47    1366320

Shineonlily
County: Kildare
Posts: 13

1366256
This thread is very wrong and should be closed! The young lads are out there playing for their county doing their best.. As a Kildare supporter I'm well used to been on the receiving end of those sort of hammerings.. Westmeath surely have gotten one or two in their day aswell!!! How wud your hurlers stand up to kilkenny's????

Can you give us an example of a 34 point hammering, or even half that amount (17) at any Kildare match you've been at, at any grade ??
Think you have your counties mixed up a bit.

I would safely say that most Leinster minor hurling teams would at least put up a few scores and couldn't see any of them being beaten by 20 points or more. At least the counties put in some kind of effort to develop hurling.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1745 - 12/04/2013 08:06:09    1366321

they will never improve until the county boards attitude changes.
Its been said hear and no doubt will be said by the kilkenny county board today "how would kildare hurlers do against kilkenny hurlers at this level"
Its like a childs atttitude to keep repeating this as what good is it doing for kilkenny football,all its doingis denying they have a problem.they have to have some sort of interest in football or why would they still be competing at any age.so instead of wheeling out the usual line why dont they enter all their underage panels in the carlow underage club leagues and championships.this way they would have games together week in week out and by playing matches will develop.instead of the current situation of not playing in the leinster minor league and barely having a training session before going out to play a championship match.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/04/2013 09:10:42    1366332

If the same two teams played each other in hurling the score would be a lot worse. I've recently spoke to people about this and the county board have set underage structures in place however it'll be at least 6 or 7 years before these kids are playing minor. The problem remains in Kilkenny that the best 15 footballers in the county were nowhere near that game yesterday, probably hurling training with their clubs. It's a shame but also a reality.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 12/04/2013 09:25:21    1366335

county board are to blame, like in other counties where some counties boards don't do much for hurling, it seems the same for football in kilkenny

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 12/04/2013 10:12:54    1366367

I see a lot of people comparing Kilkenny football to Kildare hurling. I really don't see any similarities. Kildare were in Division 2A this year after winning 2B last year, have competed in Christy Ring Cup finals and lost the U21 B All-Ireland final by a point last year. Conor Kenny has since transferred to Tipp to see if he can make it with a Liam McCarthy side.

There's plenty of teams worse than us at hurling and when our minors play hurling we allow them to come together and prepare properly. No-one makes them play club football over county hurling. Can Kilkenny say the same about football?

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 12/04/2013 10:42:32    1366397

Correct doublehop
Our minor hurlers would be well prepared before a game. While they wouldn't beat Kilkenny at minor level they certainly would not be at the wrong end of 34 point defeat. So comparing Kilkenny football to Kildare hurling is pointless for the reasons outlined above by doublehop.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3070 - 12/04/2013 11:49:25    1366451

2-29 to 0-1
Who exactly benefits from this? That type of scoreline was well predicted on this and elsewhere on the internet with far worse ridicule. Who ever put those lads out should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. If every county had that attitude there would be no GAA.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4968 - 12/04/2013 12:25:04    1366478

by saying sure kilkenny would put up a simliar score in hurling to some countys is not going to solve the problem kilkenny have with football is it now? its just making an excuse for the problem they have with football in the county

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/04/2013 12:53:10    1366512