I know Kilkenny is a hurling county but where is their football team? It's all football here in Tyrone but at least we have a hurling team that are 5th in Div 3A but there's no Kilkenny football team anywhere to be found. What's the story Kilkenny?

CoTyrone (Tyrone) - Posts: 261 - 29/03/2013 11:25:52    1358349

Kilkenny football.....Oxymoron of the year!

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 29/03/2013 11:34:52    1358352

Was it ever alive?

I read a piece recently from Joe Brolly. Like a lot of Brolly's tales you might need to digest it with a pinch of salt but it's a good one nonetheless.
Apparently once upon a time the Kilkenny footballers were traveling to an away league game short on numbers. Before they left the county boundaries they happened to come upon the legend DJ Carey along the road. They asked him if he fancied coming along and togging out. Supposedly the hurling wizard managed 5 points from play!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 29/03/2013 11:37:21    1358354

More untruths from Brolly, hardly a shocker

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 29/03/2013 11:43:44    1358355

When was it alive and kicking ?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 29/03/2013 11:44:45    1358356

Kilkenny football is not dead, it's just being ignored, where as Carlow football appears to be dead, but is not being ignored, - - - - I hope I'm wrong.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3178 - 29/03/2013 11:51:15    1358359

There senior inter-county football team withdrew from Division 4 of the NFL this year - they were getting hammered every game.

I think they now only compete in the AI Junior championship.

junk (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 29/03/2013 12:10:43    1358369

Kilkenny could have the same gripe with about 20 counties in ireland who only pay lip service to hurling.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 29/03/2013 12:22:25    1358378

CoTyrone
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I know Kilkenny is a hurling county but where is their football team? It's all football here in Tyrone but at least we have a hurling team that are 5th in Div 3A but there's no Kilkenny football team anywhere to be found. What's the story Kilkenny?

I'd bet that the Kilkenny hurlers would beat the Tyrone hurlers by a greater margin than the Tyrone footballers would beat the Kilkenny footballers!

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 29/03/2013 12:30:27    1358381

Thats probably true (That Kilkenny hurlers would beat Tyrone hurlers by a greater margain than Tyrones footballers beating Kilkennys footballers) , Reason for that is you need two teams to play a game. Kilkenny don't have a senior football team.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 29/03/2013 12:57:12    1358396

Maybe they're moonlighting as Crossmaglen!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8746 - 29/03/2013 13:00:00    1358401

bad.monkey
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More untruths from Brolly, hardly a shocker

How do you know it's an untruth?

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 29/03/2013 13:06:11    1358404

waynoI
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Thats probably true (That Kilkenny hurlers would beat Tyrone hurlers by a greater margain than Tyrones footballers beating Kilkennys footballers) , Reason for that is you need two teams to play a game. Kilkenny don't have a senior football team.

Kilkenny entered their senior footballers in the Leinster JFC last year.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 29/03/2013 13:24:37    1358412

Bain
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Kilkenny could have the same gripe with about 20 counties in ireland who only pay lip service to hurling.

They still make some effort though. A few weeks ago only one person turned up for training with the Kilkenny minor team and there was a quote from someone involved with the team who said clubs activity encourage players not to play football so that show the Kilkenny theory of ''theres no interest'' its easy for there to be no interest when players dont have a choice in the matter

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 29/03/2013 13:38:45    1358416

I'd bet that the Kilkenny hurlers would beat the Tyrone hurlers by a greater margin than the Tyrone footballers would beat the Kilkenny footballers

I figured it wouldn't be long before that nonsense argument came up again. It should be fairly obvious that you can't compare scores between the two codes. The very nature of hurling and the higher scoring in the game means that any difference in quality between teams will be hugely magnified on the scoreboard. Goals are more common and if you get space aroung the middle of the pitch you can knock over scores from 70-80 yards. In hurling you can have two evenly matched teams and one could still win by 7 or 8 points in the end. In football that would be a bad beating. Look at Waterford in the All-Ireland final a few years back beaten by 20+ points. Because scores are harder to come by in football, that that would never happen in a football final.

I know that the standards of hurling in Tyrone and many other counties are not very high, and that county boards pay lip service to the game at best. But at least there are some die-hard hurling people in those counties who make sure that the game is kept alive and their counties are represented in the leagues, even if it at a low level. The same sadly cannot be said for football in Kilkenny. The interest is just not there. We should probably just accept that and let them get on with the hurling rather than bring up this topic every so often when people feel like having a pop at some other county.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 29/03/2013 13:46:14    1358425

anfearbeag
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Good point about the die hard hurling people in the weaker counties. I have a few friends in meath who are fine hurlers adn would get on many teams down here in Limerick. They also support your football teams but unfortunately the football supporters rarely come out for them. But popularity is everything. marketting for any sport is vital.

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 29/03/2013 14:06:42    1358439

yes.... but your hurling is superb. lesson there for mayo etc

beal (Mayo) - Posts: 1388 - 29/03/2013 17:42:38    1358567

What KK football? where?

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 29/03/2013 18:08:37    1358578

Yes, Kilkenny football died a long time ago and the hurling contingent much bare some responsibility along with the schoolteachers across the county who have so much influence in moulding the minds of children from as early age.

TurnipHead. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 253 - 29/03/2013 18:20:26    1358589

It's safer not putting forward a team if there's going to be results similar to the past few years.

whitegoodman (Tyrone) - Posts: 439 - 29/03/2013 18:29:22    1358593