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Black Card For or Against?

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If you get a black card your off. if you get a yellow card your off and if ya get a red card your off... What a stupid concept and whats more worrying ahead of congress is that a lot of counties haven't been mandated to vote for or against by their clubs. Where is the democracy in that? the lay man of the GAA doesn't get a vote which is very worrying. Most county board delegates are men or women that never played football so their granted a free license to decide for themselves how they vote. As a player a supporter and a lover of the GAA. I am very worried about what may happen in Derry on Saturday. As a forward I have been body checked and blocked by opposition players but I don't believe the perpetrator deserves to have his game ended for such an offence. Also i too have been known to drag opponents down at the end of a game to stop a counter attack yes its cynical but not deserving of a place on the bench.

If we took in the proposal to accumulate yellow cards that would be a lot fair than this farcical and extreme change of rules. 3 yellow cards and your suspended for a match is a lot fairer. We have a sport very similar to ours in terms of disciplinary procedures its called soccer maybe we should follow their lead instead of this extremism that exists from men who are dinosaurs of the game. I see Liam O'Neill has given job for the boys again with Paul Earley and Tony Scullion involved with the international rules, people that sing from the hierarchy of the game. Its a disgrace that the great Mick O'Dwyer was over looked for the job once again a man that would dearly love the job but he's out spoken and against the nicey nicey approach of the GAA. Also fair play to Pauric Duffy who came out against the card rule change.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 22/03/2013 16:21:13    1354264

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I'd agree with jinxie.
There is no need to introduce a black card just enforce the yellow.

If you don't make an attempt to obtain the ball then it should be a yellow card, i.e Pulling a jersey, dragging a player to the ground, hand or foot trip, holding onto a player. None of these are a genuine attempts to obtain the ball which is what the tackle should be and by committing one of these fouls should be a yellow card but some are often just a tick by some refs and nothing at all by others. Shoulder to shoulder tackles and trying to knock the ball away from the opposition are genuine attempts to gain the ball and should be encouraged.

Michael Murphy was dragged to the ground in the dying minutes against Cork last week just outside the box and possibly denied Donegal a point if he had scored a goal. Had the black card been in place the defender would have done the same thing and gladly been substituted, the result would have been the same.

The refs need to get the definitions right as to what is a tick, a yellow and a red and that in itself would lead to a consistency that is clearly lacking at the minute. There is no need to introduce further confusion by adding a black card.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 22/03/2013 16:28:49    1354272

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FOB - I'm looking at this with a players/managers hat on, not a spectator one. I don't see it as a real deterrent to these fouls. I would like to see the black card get thrown out this time and mean the FRC or whoever will have to look at this again. I agree that something needs to be done, but I don't think the Black Card (at least in its current form) is the answer

EnolaGay (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 22/03/2013 16:40:22    1354278

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Against. Silly idea.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 22/03/2013 16:42:34    1354280

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hound
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Is there any penalty for consistently being blackcarded or is it only for the duration of game.


You'll have lost your place to some young fella, thatll be punishment enough

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 22/03/2013 17:25:59    1354307

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How anyone can disagree with this,il never know.

Cynical fouling is destroying Gaelic Football and this will eradicate it

DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 955 - 22/03/2013 18:44:03    1354349

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The black card is for cynical fouls but what will the yellow card be issued for now.

Hardasnails (Monaghan) - Posts: 288 - 22/03/2013 18:53:49    1354354

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The answer to every rule related query on this website, in the pub, or in the GAA is this.

Apply the rules as they are right now, apply them as per the rulebook every time, and then see if there are any problems.

So sick of these stupid amendments to the rules. If referees gave a free when there is meant to be a free, gave yellow cards and red cards when merited, then there would be great free-flowing games of football and hurling.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2581 - 22/03/2013 18:54:46    1354355

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So if theres no penalty for being consistently black carded in games, its easy to see some managers using this in there tactics.

hound (Meath) - Posts: 234 - 22/03/2013 20:40:00    1354394

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Down with this sort of thing; its another attempt to ruin our great game!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 23/03/2013 10:53:15    1354487

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Against!! Get rid of the hybrid rules, and leave our game alone!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 23/03/2013 11:02:55    1354490

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should have given the rules a trial in the national league next year like they used to do. Instead of lumping the rule with no experimenting. If it passes the gaa tier system of gaelic football will begin.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 23/03/2013 11:32:56    1354504

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There we are the small clubs and small counties will be ruined from now on. The panel game is now full in effect. Some clubs struggle to get 15 players now they will truly suffer. I call on the 90% of players who were against it to strike. No players no games disgrace

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 23/03/2013 12:40:44    1354531

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Well it's been passed now anyway. Disaster!

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1433 - 23/03/2013 12:44:15    1354533

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National strike of players on way to reverse this farcical decision

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 23/03/2013 12:50:04    1354542

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So the black card has been voted in. Not sure if that is a good thing or not. Incompetence from our referees in enforcing this rule could ruin our game.

MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 23/03/2013 12:52:06    1354544

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Its been passed 71% for 29% against, should be good for the game and will cut out cynical fouling I'm quite happy.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 23/03/2013 12:57:57    1354548

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As ive said before, Rugby tackling has no place in our games and for once its great to see the majority of the county boards have taken a stand.

Personally i don't think it goes far enough as i'd favour the addition of a 21 yard free for such infractions. The dismay among many may be considered an indication of just how common place and prevalent such tactic become in Gaelic Football!

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1663 - 23/03/2013 13:03:49    1354552

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the gaa should have a looked to what is causing the problem? but they are cowards? the problem is the in consisting refereeing from different refs/linesmen/umpire and even the in consisting from the same ref in the same game. all this black card proves is the gaa are too cowardly to tackle the root of the problem

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 23/03/2013 13:12:03    1354556

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The Black card seems to have been passed at congress happy enough with that if it cuts out the cynical fouling in the game our county voted for the motion i was surprised at what counties voted against the motion.

93vintageyear (Derry) - Posts: 301 - 23/03/2013 13:20:10    1354560

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