There's a million of them.

Liameen (USA) - Posts: 38 - 13/03/2013 16:46:06    1348915

As I said above, I can't say for sure if the Finuge official spat at a player.

Seems pretty obvious that they both spit at each other. I think one thing we can all agree on was that it was a seriously toxic game.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 13/03/2013 16:47:09    1348917

Wheres the spitting in the second video?

Looks like targing and lads niggling at each other, but I dont see any spit. At what time or point in the video does any rocks player wipe his face or pull his head back as if he's been spat on?

This is just a distration to take the light of the disgusting act that originally took place.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 13/03/2013 16:48:53    1348921

From 7-11 seconds it sure looks like they're spitting at each other (the finuge official and the cookstown player). You can see the number 11 Cookstown player get annoyed by it, pointing him out to the referee. I could be wrong, but it's what it looks like, obviously doesn't help that the video quality is poor.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 13/03/2013 16:57:54    1348928

must agree with meath poster trying too take the heat off the paul galvin incident ...i notice no reply from cookstown all gone very quiet ...and i must say

its not in the last few weeks this has sprung up it has been simmering for a while ..it goes back too the win at all cost attitude which tryrone brought too the game

traleegerry (Kerry) - Posts: 738 - 13/03/2013 18:01:58    1348969

I do think there's been a bit of an over-reaction to this incident. Ok spitting at someone is not exactly a compliment, but its not that big a deal either. Galvin had his face wiped within a couple of seconds and was ready to get on with his game. I dont believe it affected his performance for the rest of the match

whiterbannnas (Mayo) - Posts: 2441 - 13/03/2013 18:33:09    1348986

Spitting not a big deal?...Good man whiterbananas...up Mayo boy

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 13/03/2013 18:41:08    1348992

its not part of the game its a horrible act and disgusting and shows total disrespect for your opponent is that really what you think or is there an under lying

current here

traleegerry (Kerry) - Posts: 738 - 13/03/2013 18:44:32    1348993

whiterbannnas
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I do think there's been a bit of an over-reaction to this incident. Ok spitting at someone is not exactly a compliment, but its not that big a deal either. Galvin had his face wiped within a couple of seconds and was ready to get on with his game. I dont believe it affected his performance for the rest of the match

Can't agree. The fact that Galvin didn't make a big deal of it says more about Galvin than it does about the spitting. He has gone away up in my estimation wheras Mulligan has gone the other way.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 13/03/2013 19:05:16    1348999

fair enough superglue, I think that most people agree that spitting is wrong. What happened to Paul Galvin was wrong, Mulligans attempt to justify it was wrong but people also need to realise that this isn't a Tyrone/Kerry thing, this happens up and down the country, it is not the exclusive act of 1 county. I'm a member of the GAA and ashamedly I admit that on occasion while spectating during the heat of a match I have said things that I shouldn't have but I was always able to shake hands with the other teams fans around me (and apologise if needs be) after a match. We are all members or supporters of the 1 organisation, we should have respect for every player on the field (even if we don't like them) because without them and their dedication we would have no games, we should all also have respect for each other no matter what club or county we are from because we are all the same at the end of the day, the clubman from Finuge is no different than the clubman from Cookstown. Sin é

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 13/03/2013 20:36:37    1349069

whiterbannnas
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No big deal! maybe not in your neck of the woods, where I am from you'd be found in a ditch.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 13/03/2013 21:06:20    1349097

Tom1916
County: Armagh
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Well said.

dubes (Kerry) - Posts: 69 - 13/03/2013 21:33:26    1349126

Tom1916
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Excellant post, and a player and supporter I can totally relat to that.. well said

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 14/03/2013 08:45:50    1349176

Mulligans response is pathetic in my opinion. Spitting is the most disgusting act any one could carry out and there is no way to defend it. I know if that player was part of my team there would be not one in the dressing room standing up for him on the issue. But winning at all costs has crept into our game and is slowly destroying it. Honestly I think the GAA is taken to seriously in Ulster. At the end of the day its only a sport and there is a right way to win a match and a wrong way.

ballaghmen (Mayo) - Posts: 318 - 14/03/2013 11:25:04    1349277

You are right and wrong ballaghman. I would agree with you that the game is taken a bit too seriously at times in Ulster but there are a number of reasons for that which I don't believe many Gaels outside the province understand at all. Ulster counties are very parochial and close to each other, maybe more so than other provinces. A lot of club sides in differing counties are in near proximity and that contributes to intense rivalry. Take a look at Down and Armagh around Newry where the border between the two runs; on one side of the bridge it's Down and the other around the Forkhill Road Armagh; likewise Armagh, Tyrone and Derry have clubs just across the way from each other while the border counties of Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal are close by. Then of course the conflict of the past 40 years also made a lot of Ulster Gaels defensive, intense, suspicious and yes at times aggressive, angry and confrontational. There's no doubt that this in your face stance can rile our Southern brethren at times who would be a bit more laid back than us but I have no doubt that this is a by-product of the Troubles and the rebellious history of Ulster. Ulster GAA people despair and get annoyed at the total lack of understanding and awareness in the South about the human cost the Association paid in Ulster just to play to play Gaelic Games. I once had a rifle stuck in my mouth by a UDR patrol for mouthing back at them after they stopped our car going to a game and threw our hurls in a ditch. I was told I would be shot there and then and that they "would get away with it". When I look at the murder of Aiden McAnespie; Ardoyne, St. Enda's, Bellaghy, Portglenone, Swatragh who had to put up with with members murdered, clubhouses burnt down, pitches studded with glass, pipebombs hung on railings etc it did contribute to a vary wary mindset amongst Ulster Gaels which carried on to the present day. That is not an attempt to play the sympathy card; it's cold hard facts. Sometimes when Southern Gaels and the media there decide to have another easy go at the Ulster GAA they should maybe reflect and remember what many of them have gone through.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 14/03/2013 12:54:17    1349366

In my opinion, both these have let themselves down badly!!.....the last dying kicks of a pair of lads trying to keep in the public eye as they drop off the radar!!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 14/03/2013 13:05:42    1349376

. I would agree with you that the game is taken a bit too seriously at times in Ulster but there are a number of reasons for that which I don't believe many Gaels outside the province understand at all. Ulster counties are very parochial and close to each other, maybe more so than other provinces. A lot of club sides in differing counties are in near proximity and that contributes to intense rivalry. Take a look at Down and Armagh around Newry where the border between the two runs; on one side of the bridge it's Down and the other around the Forkhill Road Armagh; likewise Armagh, Tyrone and Derry have clubs just across the way from each other while the border counties of Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal are close by. Then of course the conflict of the past 40 years also made a lot of Ulster Gaels defensive, intense, suspicious and yes at times aggressive, angry and confrontational. There's no doubt that this in your face stance can rile our Southern brethren at times who would be a bit more laid back than us but I have no doubt that this is a by-product of the Troubles and the rebellious history of Ulster. Ulster GAA people despair and get annoyed at the total lack of understanding and awareness in the South about the human cost the Association paid in Ulster just to play to play Gaelic Games. I once had a rifle stuck in my mouth by a UDR patrol for mouthing back at them after they stopped our car going to a game and threw our hurls in a ditch. I was told I would be shot there and then and that they "would get away with it". When I look at the murder of Aiden McAnespie; Ardoyne, St. Enda's, Bellaghy, Portglenone, Swatragh who had to put up with with members murdered, clubhouses burnt down, pitches studded with glass, pipebombs hung on railings etc it did contribute to a vary wary mindset amongst Ulster Gaels which carried on to the present day. That is not an attempt to play the sympathy card; it's cold hard facts. Sometimes when Southern Gaels and the media there decide to have another easy go at the Ulster GAA they should maybe reflect and remember what many of them have gone through.

What has all that got to do with an Ulster team playing a team from Cork, or Galway, or Kerry, or Meath, or anywhere else? Clubs in the other 3 provinces are side by side too. They are just as close to each other as in Ulster. I have heard many stories from Ulster friends and I my mother's family is from Pettigo, Co. Donegal, (which is divided by the border) and I understand the frustrations and provocations endured by six county clubs and teams during the troubles - attacks, murders (Eg. Aidan McAnespie), property damage etc. However these were not coming from southern GAA teams, or Southern Gaels if you like. Southern teams had nothing to do with any of the incidents you mention so how does that transfer to the football field? To me it sounds like trying to find a way to justify bad behaviour and it sounds exactly like trying to play the sympathy card. Sorry.

Liameen (USA) - Posts: 38 - 14/03/2013 14:31:05    1349458

Wish people here from certain counties would park their paranoia and their politics every now and again.That Cookstown player should be ashamed of himself.No excuse for that,and shame on Owen Mulligan for trying to justify it.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 14/03/2013 17:02:52    1349570

While I agree with some (in fact most)of your sentiments what on earth has the UDR or the murder of any gaels got to do with thid incident?The Cookstown player spat and should be ashamed of himself and so should anyone defending him..If anything he has let down ulster gaels!!

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 14/03/2013 17:15:53    1349580

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While I agree with some (in fact most)of your sentiments what on earth has the UDR or the murder of any gaels got to do with thid incident?The Cookstown player spat and should be ashamed of himself and so should anyone defending him..If anything he has let down ulster gaels!!

you should know by now thats what Ulsterman brings up when hes trying to shift the focus away from anything negative about Ulster and Ulster teams

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 14/03/2013 17:30:38    1349596