The Offaly county player and the Tyrone club player has to be punished so this spitting stuff gets nipped in the bud fast.

richiescats (USA) - Posts: 420 - 12/03/2013 14:07:56    1348041

It must be one of the lowest things one sportsperson can do to another - spitting. As for the comments well hopefully he'll stand and fall on them.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 12/03/2013 14:11:08    1348047

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 5256

So now you are saying this was a reaction to sectarian abuse, which implies that Galvin made sectarian comments. Can you actually back that up or are you just talking for the sake of it?

Just like you and everyone else on here, I am just talking for the sake of it (unless of course you are hired to make your comments?).

I am implying that Galvin MAY have made some comments (probably didn't though IMO), but someone on that team DID make some comments, which resulted in that reaction. Just as everyone here (myself included) is implying that the other guy DID spit on Galvin, even though without x-ray vision no-one can be sure, as the video is inconclusive (probably did though IMO).

So now you are saying ... What was my view before this post?

muffin (Antrim) - Posts: 128 - 12/03/2013 14:15:13    1348049

How could a Kerry person be sectarian towards someone from Tyrone!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 12/03/2013 14:20:02    1348055

how can a catholic nationlist from the republic abuse a catholic nationlist from the 6 six counties. it is laughable. This is not proper sectarian abuse. it is just a wind up.
however mentioning dead clubmates or peoples family etc etc deserves any reaction including spitting.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 12/03/2013 14:21:04    1348058

Mistake by Mulligan and posters here combining two incidents , suggest start a thread on sectarian abuse and you will find were people stand , same stance re racist comments , they are sick have no place in a decent society , abusive comments , slagging off players supporters re race creed etc have no place in the GAA .
Unfortunately people are defensive based on parochial geographical issues , nobody that I am aware of is slagging off Mulligan because of where hes from , I came on thread as Im completely opposed to spitting , and heaven help us if it was a Dub Id want him named shamed and dealt with swiftly

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/03/2013 14:24:04    1348060

Dont think many of the Finuge team could be called Nationalists ..most of them are Sons of large farmers from a very strong Fine Gael tradition..however outside of finuge there is a very very strong nationalist vote in North Kerry and many of these people are disgusted if its true about these comments alleged to have come from finuge players ...

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 871 - 12/03/2013 14:30:26    1348067

Hurler32,
Now youve really started it...Finuge are a shower of blueshirts!!lol

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 12/03/2013 14:33:47    1348069

muffin
County: Antrim
Posts: 90

Thats the point. The spit clearly DID happen. The verbal abuse is alleged. theres a difference, you are making both of them out to be the same. Not suprising tho.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 12/03/2013 14:35:01    1348070

Fists until the cry for mercy is heard, anyone?....has always sorted out lads that need summary justice for me no probs!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 12/03/2013 14:45:43    1348082

Jinxie

You are right but thats the problem with verbal abuse....there is no trace of it. The cameras dont pick it up. That doesnt make it less of a crime.

I dont understand why a separate thread should be made for sectarian abuse. Mulligan has mentioned it as part of the story, therefore it belongs in the thread. He has said that it justifies the Cookstown's players actions. I don't agree that it does, but it surely means that the discussion belongs in this thread.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1429 - 12/03/2013 14:46:15    1348083

Exactly Jinxie. We have proof that galvin was spit on. Everything else is speculation. Mulligan could have misheard someone for all we know. Now I dont believe that is the case, but people assuming the worst case scenario is simply unfair. We know the guy spat on galvin, and that is the topic of the thread. If someone else is guilty of sectarian abuse then they are wrong also. It doesnt mean this guy is any less wrong though, particularly when it is clear that galvin was not involved with him at all. At the end of the day, we all know that this guy seen who it was and tried to get a reaction out of him by doing the worst thing he could think of, nothing to do with sectarian abuse or any of that.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/03/2013 14:50:25    1348084

Pope_has_spoken
County: Dublin
Posts: 84

1347999 I'd imagine the Tyrone county board are livid right now with Mugsy after all the bad publicity from the incident with Karl Lacey. There should be zero tolerance shown towards spitting and the accused should never be allowed play in the Gaa again. And credit to Galvin, for all the abuse the man takes(and gives to be fair), showed great restraint by not reacting. ~PHS

lets just say it hasnt improved Mulligans chances of getting back into the team. Harte expects a high degree of character from his players off the field.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 12/03/2013 14:51:33    1348086

You may remember Dublin V Monaghan about 2 years ago had an incident between Dublin back room staff and a Monaghan player!.....outcome.....the Dubliner travelled in person to Monaghan to apologise to the Monaghan player who accepted it as men should!

Here in Dublin, the '''FAIR''' City indeed, we have the manly honesty about us to stand face to face with a man and apologise to him square on!.....will a Tyrone man do the same?!

'Manly Honesty'.....Im not so sure it exists eleswhere!!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 12/03/2013 14:55:49    1348093

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 5257


Thats the point. The spit clearly DID happen. The verbal abuse is alleged. theres a difference, you are making both of them out to be the same. Not suprising tho.

No, without xray vision or another camera angle, the spit PROBABLY happened (I believe it DID happen).

Correct, the verbal abuse is alleged.

No, I am not making them out to be the same. I implied that the guy who spat made them out to be the same, hence he did what he did.

Not surprising tho Given that I rarely post on this forum, and that I've never before posted to you, this does not make any sense; please elaborate.

muffin (Antrim) - Posts: 128 - 12/03/2013 15:03:13    1348100

muffin
County: Antrim
Posts: 91

This is about the disgusting act of spitting at a player. you are the one bringing an entirely different issue into it.

And do you really need an explanation as to why its not surprising on your stance?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 12/03/2013 15:44:10    1348131

I had the pleasure of being on the recieiving end of sectarian abuse while attending the NACB championships here in the US a few years back. Now, when I meet my fellow countrymen or women the world over I see them as Irish regardless of what part of our Island they come from. I would not ever try to say I understand what abuses and bigotry our fellow Irish people received in the 6 counties and I don't know how I would have reacted in those situations. However, I will say that it does not elevate them to a more Patriotic or Irish status than their counterparts from the other 26 counties. My family is and always have been very patriotic and served the cause of Irish freedom as far back as we can acurately document. My Grandfather was buried with full military honors for his service while a member of the "Old IRA" and his battalion and company is carved on his grave stone.
The abuse I received from a group of paraletic drunk, what I considered prior to that as fellow countrymen from Tyrone, while watching the Aidan McAnespie club playing a match just because I was wearing a Republic of Ireland soccer jersey was vile at the least and probably downright racist. I was call a Freestate ****, asked repeatedly why I was wearing that ******* rag on my back and why I was attending a GAA match. This continued to howls of laughter from this group of "True Irishmen" and Women that accompanied them to the point where I just up and left the feild and the event for the rest of the day.
I will never forget that incident and it put a negative opinion in my head and heart rightly or wrongly that, thankfully due to the fact that I have very good friends from the 6 counties that put paid to that view, that people from the north of our fine Island have a dour view of their countrymen to the south.
My point here is, that there are idiots from both area's and hopefully in the minority that do more to keep the divisions of our Island than the most rabid loyalist could ever hope to do. Lets not let them divide us.

Dubfan Abroad (Dublin) - Posts: 282 - 12/03/2013 15:53:28    1348144

No, I am not making them out to be the same. I implied that the guy who spat made them out to be the same, hence he did what he did.

There is no proof of this. It is your assumption. Why did the guy run away like he was making an escape if it was in retaliation? Why was galvin so bemused looking about the whole situation if he knew something might be coming his way? The evidence does not only not support your assumption, it actually suggests the total opposite...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/03/2013 15:55:13    1348147

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 5258

This is about the disgusting act of spitting at a player. you are the one bringing an entirely different issue into it. The alleged spitting and the alleged sectarian abuse involved the same people on the same pitch on the same day; they are as unrelated as you would have us believe.

And do you really need an explanation as to why its not surprising on your stance? Yes; tell me/us.

muffin (Antrim) - Posts: 128 - 12/03/2013 16:05:14    1348159

In fairness brend it has nothing to do with amount of cameras etc. Its just been a bit of trend over the last couple of years that incidents have been happening involving tyrone teams in high profile club and county games. Im not out to get tyrone but what's happening is happening.

Mulligans response is ridiculous - why does someone use the word alleged when we've all seen the footage. Guilty.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 12/03/2013 16:25:47    1348184