I'd imagine they'd be keen to avoid cities hosting more than one venue. I think Auckland was the only city to do so in the 2011 WC.

Also as 4 of the 12 stadiums in NZ were 20k or less capacity, I'd imagine the IRFU would prefer to use their own stadiums even if there is a larger GAA stadium in the same city. I'm thinking Thomand over Gaelic Grounds, Ravenhill over Casement. Although I'd say Pearse Stadium (Pearse Park as mentioned above is in Longford!) would have to be used over The Sportsground as it is way too small even given recent development. Also I'd say a redeveloped PúC would be picked over Musgrave.

It's surprising seeing the capacity of the stadiums used in NZ, there was relatively few large stadiums: 1 60k, 1 40k, 4 30-36k, 3 20-26k and 3 15-18k. Obviously capacity isn't everything and media facilities would play a huge part, but taking that out of it, the 12 I'd pick would be.

Dublin: Croker & Aviva
Belfast: Ravenhill (getting a big redevelopment starting this Summer)
Thurles: Semple Stadium
Cork: Parc úi Caoimh
Limerick: Thomand Park
Killarney: Fitzgerald Stadium
Galway: Pearse Stadium

Kilkenny: Nowlan Park
Portlaoise: O'Moore Park
Armagh: Athletic Grounds
Clones: St.Tiernach's

Then I'd have the final being in Croker over the AViva as 32,000 of a difference in capacity is just too big to ignore.

The last 4 on my list there were picked more to have a geographical spread more than anything but the north west is fairly under-represented but it is lacking in infrastructure. Possibly a new build in Derry? There's usually at least one newly built stadium in any of these bids.

iluvspuds (Longford) - Posts: 160 - 06/03/2013 17:41:02    1344231

Ormandbannerman,

Celtic Park in Derry is already larger than some of Ireland's Rugby grounds. It's official capacity is 22,000, with a lot of seating currently in place.
It's location gives it access to all ammenities needed, and it would need less construction than some other venues.

Armagh is another great location, great new stadium they have there with top class facilities.

We probably have enough grounds in Ireland with GAA stadiums alone to host such an event, with seating and facilities just needing to be upgraded. It would be a great chance to market the whole country to the Rugby world.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 06/03/2013 17:43:32    1344235

Ballybofey not getting a mention. Very disappointing!!!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 06/03/2013 18:01:00    1344245

You're absolutley correct Muckrosshead. Yet another example of Donegal getting overlooked as though it doesn't exist, and no-one knows where it is. Shameful carry on and a real pity because after Kerry, I think it's the most scenic county in Munster.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3143 - 06/03/2013 18:14:16    1344254

Of course the GAA should go for it. Its win win for all concerned. If the GAA were with the times, the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick would already have been used to host some of Munster rugby matches too large for Thomond Park.

We have too many white elephants of stadiums in the country so any chance to use them should be welcomed. Also the largest stadiums shouldn't neccessarily get all the games. The IRB will have minimum capacity requirements and if county grounds around 20,000 qualify, they games should be spread about as much as possible.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1136 - 06/03/2013 18:28:34    1344259

i would imagine the gaelic grounds would be used aswell as thomond park as its double the capacity of thomand and only 5 mins walk

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/03/2013 18:32:29    1344261

06/03/2013 17:31:20
cuchulainn35
Which are the best stadiums, infrastructure, facilities, etc then unfortunately we have few:
So
1. Croke Park 2. Aviva
3. Casement Park 4. Ravenhill
5. Thomand Park 6. RDS
7. Galway or Mayo 8. Killarney
9. Derry 10. Tullamore
11. Cork 12 Armagh
Sorry to be pedantic but its Thomond. Pet hate of mine when people put an A into Thomond Park.
Galwey ahead of Mayo venue as better accomodation etc available


06/03/2013 17:34:16
GaryMc82
McHale Park is a fine Stadium, and would be worthy of hosting such an event.
I suggested Celtic Park as a potential venue, as it's located near the City Centre of Ireland's 4th largest City. With limited further development it could be expanded easily over 30,000.
It would be great to spread these matches out across the country.
Better off using rugby grounds ahead of loads of GAA grounds where you can

06/03/2013 17:43:32
GaryMc82
Ormandbannerman, Celtic Park in Derry is already larger than some of Ireland's Rugby grounds. It's official capacity is 22,000, with a lot of seating currently in place.
It's location gives it access to all ammenities needed, and it would need less construction than some other venues.

Armagh is another great location, great new stadium they have there with top class facilities.

We probably have enough grounds in Ireland with GAA stadiums alone to host such an event, with seating and facilities just needing to be upgraded. It would be a great chance to market the whole country to the Rugby world
Its Ormond.
Is certainly not enough grounds with GAA stadiums alone. Facilities of quite a few grounds just not good enough
Better off and cheaper to use rugby grounds ahead of GAA stadiums.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/03/2013 18:43:54    1344266

Everyone seems to be in favour of this? Do you really think its a good idea for the GAA to showcase a rival sport in its best stadia around the country lads? Young kids in areas that never heard of rugby could start taking it up, could be detrimental to the GAA. Lets look after our own games, if rugby want to host a world cup, let them build their own stadia

whiterbannnas (Mayo) - Posts: 2441 - 06/03/2013 18:44:53    1344267

It sunderstandable that people are speculating about stadia that might be used. The key word is 'might' as there is no certainty that a bid by the IRFU would be succesful for 2023.

There is a lot of persuading to do at International Rugby before there is white smoke on a World Cup here.

As there is a motion on the Clar for Congress, then it seems that our top brass are behind the motion. The question for me now is - how much exactly- give a million or 2- would the GAA make if the world cup bid is successful?

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1872 - 06/03/2013 18:53:57    1344271

I'm surprised so many GAA people are willing to roll over to professional rugby. It is the greatest competition the GAA has ever known on this island. it is growing at an incredible rate since it turned professional. Having professional Irish based teams competing on a European level is a tremendous lure for young lads. Look at the rise of Connacht rugby in the last few years alone. Dangerous game the GAA are playing here in an effort to appease the media led clamour

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 06/03/2013 18:55:01    1344272

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 3930

Sorry to be pedantic but its Thomond. Pet hate of mine when people put an A into Thomond Park.
Galwey ahead of Mayo venue as better accomodation etc available

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Equally sorry to be pedantic but its Galway with an A. Pet hate of mine.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1037 - 06/03/2013 18:56:43    1344274

Just beat me to it Jack Sparrow. Well played, well played.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 06/03/2013 19:54:29    1344315

06/03/2013 18:44:53
whiterbannnas
Everyone seems to be in favour of this? Do you really think its a good idea for the GAA to showcase a rival sport in its best stadia around the country lads? Young kids in areas that never heard of rugby could start taking it up, could be detrimental to the GAA. Lets look after our own games, if rugby want to host a world cup, let them build their own stadia
Why not work together for benefit of country?
No issues in most other countries of several sports using same countries. why we have to be different?
Why not help IRFU out? ye'll make some money, country gains in terms of tourism etc.
rugby is picking up in most area's anyway with success of provinces in recent years

06/03/2013 18:53:57
carlowman
Its understandable that people are speculating about stadia that might be used. The key word is 'might' as there is no certainty that a bid by the IRFU would be succesful for 2023.
There is a lot of persuading to do at International Rugby before there is white smoke on a World Cup here.
As there is a motion on the Clar for Congress, then it seems that our top brass are behind the motion. The question for me now is - how much exactly- give a million or 2- would the GAA make if the world cup bid is successful?
no certainty at all ireland would be successfull but since we've never hosted a world cup and the previous world cups will have been NZ, Eng and Japan we could def get it

06/03/2013 18:55:01
bad.monkey
I'm surprised so many GAA people are willing to roll over to professional rugby. It is the greatest competition the GAA has ever known on this island. it is growing at an incredible rate since it turned professional. Having professional Irish based teams competing on a European level is a tremendous lure for young lads. Look at the rise of Connacht rugby in the last few years alone. Dangerous game the GAA are playing here in an effort to appease the media led clamour
far from people "rolling over" to rugby. hosting this benefits everyone. GAA grounds prob will get developed. more tourists, more money for a lot of people. good for the country

06/03/2013 18:56:43
Jack_Sparrow
Equally sorry to be pedantic but its Galway with an A. Pet hate of mine.
1 slip of the finger. constantly people spell my name wrong. no a in ormond. fairly simple thing to remember

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/03/2013 19:59:50    1344318

06/03/2013 18:32:29
hill16no1man
i would imagine the gaelic grounds would be used aswell as thomond park as its double the capacity of thomond and only 5 mins walk
dont see both being used and see other GAA stadiums being used ahead of gaelic grounds. difficult to see 2 stadiums from 1 smallish city being used. Dublin likely to be only city with more than 1 stadium.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/03/2013 20:06:35    1344325

It certainly won't be of benefit to the GAA Ormand , fancy grounds are no good if there is nobody in them. Bad move by the GAA

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 06/03/2013 20:08:59    1344330

ormondbannerman
County: Clare

Why not work together for benefit of country? Why not help IRFU out?

Because we are direct rivals of theirs. We are both competing for the same players. Why help them out? This is an association that, when they finally decided to modernise that relic at lansdowne road, had to come cap in hand to an amateur organisation to beg to use their stadium. How embarrassing! The GAA has enough to be worrying about, staying ahead of soccer & rugby, which they are doing very successfully. Let rugby look after themselves. If they havent enough stadia to host a world cup then they may forget about it. Only in this country would you get this. Lest we forget the time the fai brought uefa delegates out to abbotstown to show them where our new national stadium was gonna be, to croke park which they didnt have permission to use at the time and to lansdowne road which was falling apart. Again, how embarrassing! Its up to the fai or the irfu to get their own houses in order if they wanna host these tournaments. Not the GAA's problem

whiterbannnas (Mayo) - Posts: 2441 - 06/03/2013 20:09:58    1344331

I don't think playing the Canada v Tonga, Italy v Japan or similar matches in Tullamore would be a good idea I don't think that the whole of Offaly roaring and screaming with excitement over the prospect of seeing these matches would allow us to get much work done.I doubt I'd be able to concentrate properly on anything in the years running up to such big matches.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 06/03/2013 20:17:27    1344337

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
far from people "rolling over" to rugby. hosting this benefits everyone. GAA grounds prob will get developed.
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Who pays for this redevelopment of GAA grounds, where does the money come from?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 06/03/2013 20:35:44    1344346

06/03/2013 20:08:59
bad.monkey
It certainly won't be of benefit to the GAA Ormond , fancy grounds are no good if there is nobody in them. Bad move by the GAA
whats wrong with grounds getting developed?
You say fancy grounds of no benefit. You dont have to do much to make stadiums better. proper food/drink facilities which some grounds dont have at all.
not a bad move by the GAA if they do it.

06/03/2013 20:09:58
whiterbannnas
Because we are direct rivals of theirs. We are both competing for the same players. Why help them out? This is an association that, when they finally decided to modernise that relic at lansdowne road, had to come cap in hand to an amateur organisation to beg to use their stadium. How embarrassing! The GAA has enough to be worrying about, staying ahead of soccer & rugby, which they are doing very successfully. Let rugby look after themselves. If they havent enough stadia to host a world cup then they may forget about it. Only in this country would you get this. Lest we forget the time the fai brought uefa delegates out to abbotstown to show them where our new national stadium was gonna be, to croke park which they didnt have permission to use at the time and to lansdowne road which was falling apart. Again, how embarrassing! Its up to the fai or the irfu to get their own houses in order if they wanna host these tournaments. Not the GAA's problem
GAA could help and everyone would benefit. how is it embarrassing that the IRFU and FAI asked another organisation in this country to use their world class state of the art stadium. much more embarrassing for the GAA if they allowed FAI/IRFU play home internationals in england/scotland etc and didnt allow games in croker.
This wouldnt be an issue in most countries as sporting grounds are municipal in most cases and all sports are played in the one venue. Look at rugby and soccer being played in same grounds in UK/France. Look at australia and most field sports playing in the same grounds.

06/03/2013 20:17:27
uibhfhaili1986
I don't think playing the Canada v Tonga, Italy v Japan or similar matches in Tullamore would be a good idea I don't think that the whole of Offaly roaring and screaming with excitement over the prospect of seeing these matches would allow us to get much work done.I doubt I'd be able to concentrate properly on anything in the years running up to such big matches.
You would pull in some interested people from local areas if priced right and Italy, Japan, Canada would travel well for a world cup.
America for example rugby has really taken off and dozens and dozens of american clubs/schools have came to play in ireland recently and you could look at them to come over again. very def pull in crowds
sarcasm is dripping off that post.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/03/2013 20:44:51    1344360

if the gaa do this for the rugby then they should seize the chance to make sure they get a signed agreement from the media and particularly rte that they will treat gaa as it should be in the sports news and highlighted its games and give us gaa news on the six one properly not only when the championship is on.
that would be my main thing here that the gaa make sure that first off the irfu know they need the gaa to do this and secondly the media need the gaa to do this as they are going to benifit massively so the gaa should now hold all the aces and make sure they get off both exactly what they should.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/03/2013 20:46:03    1344365