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Dublin Golden Era - about to begin

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Last nights U21 result between Dublin and Carlow makes for grim reading. The Dubs seem to be getting stronger and stronger and they continue to monopolise Leinster at all levels. With the ongoing trouble in Kerry, Tyrone's demise and Cork's lack of development are we looking at the start of a golden era of Dublin football?

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 20/02/2013 09:23:17    1336434

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It's going to be a long few months for all non-Dubs, listening to this oul guff until they get the inevitable spanking from a team of men who won't stand for nonsense from a bunch of hyperactive teenagers.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 20/02/2013 09:38:49    1336444

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He is not a Dub Muckross so what are u on about?

as an aisde, 2-10 for young Kilkenny last night
what a prospect!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 20/02/2013 09:48:49    1336452

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Muckcross that group of men your referring to, would that be Donegal by any chance? I have a farm at home with a few chickens, basically i need egg collectors. Any of the Donegal team who are needing some employment send them my way or you'll have a team of teenagers yourself this summer as the rest will have flown the chicken coup to greener pastures.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 20/02/2013 09:51:30    1336455

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Check the post Liam. I never said he was a Dub!! Great win by the way, mind you you'd have to wonder about Carlow.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 20/02/2013 09:52:44    1336456

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We'll see.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13658 - 20/02/2013 09:55:26    1336459

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The Dubs would have had a tougher game against the Kilkenny footballers, what kind of match ups do they have in Leinster these days?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 20/02/2013 09:57:47    1336462

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Culchie hype machine in full flow.

Why do we have to put up with this nonsense any time we win a game? We played Carlow in an U21 match and we have to listen to same auld bull.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13845 - 20/02/2013 10:07:47    1336471

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cacsmckilly
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Muckcross that group of men your referring to, would that be Donegal by any chance? I have a farm at home with a few chickens, basically i need egg collectors. Any of the Donegal team who are needing some employment send them my way or you'll have a team of teenagers yourself this summer as the rest will have flown the chicken coup to greener pastures.


Cacs
Tyrone were not above putting young fellas in their place in their day & would still be more than up for it.

I was just making the general point that there are a number of people getting very giddy here about Dublin's prospects based on the performances of cubs. These may well turn out to be great players as senior level but then again they may not & it is putting a heavy load on a new manager with young players to be loading expectation on them this early.

Before people get up in arms, not every Dublin poster is at this, but a quick scan through the threads & posts recently shows a heady optimism that may need tempering a little. Even from Jim Gavins point of view who was the last manager to win an All Ireland in his first year? It doesn't happen very often.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 20/02/2013 10:09:15    1336474

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MuckrossHead
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1336444 It's going to be a long few months for all non-Dubs, listening to this oul guff until they get the inevitable spanking from a team of men who won't stand for nonsense from a bunch of hyperactive teenagers.


Muckross there is a glaring implication in your post that this man is a Dub talking up his own team!!!
He's not!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 20/02/2013 10:10:31    1336476

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Looks like it,the recession to a degree has helped Dublin,many county boards are struggling for money,Dublin have massive sponsorship deals etc,and are taking advantage of the population.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/02/2013 10:21:47    1336489

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Liam
Any "glaring implications" are in your own head. I can read as well as most and am not likely to confuse "USA" with "Dublin".
Hardly a point worth getting heated up about though.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 20/02/2013 10:27:56    1336495

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To be fair Dublin have been leaps and bounds ahead of any other county in Leinster for years. They but the work in when we resting on our larels and they will desevredly reap the benifits

An_Oifigeach (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 20/02/2013 10:29:46    1336497

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Seriously thought it does look ominous. Ok it doesn't always transfer over to senior AI's (refer to Galway hurling) but over the past three years they've seen serious consistenty at both minor and u21 level. The fact that there are also so many potential superstars on these teams doesn't bore well for those outside the pale.

At the moment I think Donegal and to the lesser extent Mayo can match Dublin. However that will be shortlived as both are only capable of producing teams every now and then to challenge, with relatively little underage success compared to Dublin.

It looks like a golden era is coming ok. Its a matter of managing it properly and we all know Dublin have the expertise and resources to deal with such events.

In short I think the rest of us could be in a spot of bother.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 20/02/2013 10:43:46    1336503

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Lads, it's February! Golden Era's are judged on all Irelands won e.g Kerry 1978-1981, then from 1984-1986 or Galway from 1964-1966. When were those All Irelands won? SEPTEMBER? By who? COUNTY SENIOR TEAMS. Not February by one result by an under 21 team.

MissDownFanatic (Down) - Posts: 411 - 20/02/2013 11:09:50    1336518

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if only it were so simple lads
I will make a prediction, in the next 10 years, Dublin will win one, maybe 2 All Irelands at most in football and none in hurling
We will in that time win maybe 5 u21 all irelands between the 2 codes
you can have all the youth and all the talent in the world, but dedication and drive, or as Trap would call it "mmeenntaalliittteeee" cannot be coached.
Dublin have always had a conveyor belt of talent but we dont have the Sams to show for it.
If we were to win 2 Sams in the next 10 years, I would take that right now. I would bite your hand off for it to be honest. Look at Cork, Cork have been the masters of underage GAA talent for generations, where are all the All Irelands? It just doesnt happen

But to end on a positive for us Dubs, there is one difference between now and the last few generations of underage Dublin footballers. Forwards.
Dublin have always produced classy half backs and industrious half forwards. Great keepers and hard working athletes. But we always, always struggled for "natural" footballers, especially in the forwards. This generation is different. This generation is producing copious amounts of natural scoring forwards, that could be THE difference. But I wouldnt bank on it.

So relax Sedico....as a great man once said....you win nothing with kids!! :)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 20/02/2013 11:18:56    1336528

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All bow before us! We are unstoppable!

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 20/02/2013 11:24:42    1336531

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We have the players for it. We have the quality to do it but more important do we have the Drive an hunger for it. Here,s hoping...

DUB1 (Dublin) - Posts: 5583 - 20/02/2013 11:48:12    1336548

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Dublin Golden Era - about to begin

Really it began a few years ago when structures were finally put in place to help maximise the size of the potential player pool and the talent available.

Years of focusing on getting things right at underage level; by underage level I don't necessarily mean minor and under 21, I'm talking developments squads at under 14 and under 16 level and nursery programmes in clubs is bearing fruit.

They didn't pluck the talent they have at the minor and under 21 grades out of nothing. It was always there, it just took a bit of time for it to be nurtured and developed effectively.

Football became more popular and probably more importantly so did hurling. GAA is the cool sport in Dublin now, it used to be football; Italia '90 and the wave of support that followed, and for a while it looked like rugby was the sport to be associated with, but now, and over the next decade or so at least, it's going to be Gaelic games.

Nothings ever certain in sport. And underage success will never guarantee senior All Irelands.

It definitely puts them in a stronger position than the rest of us though.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 20/02/2013 13:09:58    1336620

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would non dubs here see it as a good thing or a bad thing if GAA becomes the dominant sport in Dublin?
would be great for the sport nationally surely, but then if it was to start to spill over into the AI Series....surely that would be a bad thing??

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 20/02/2013 13:32:32    1336643

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