arock , you have not being reading the posts , I believe that AAI is a well run organization but they do lack resources , you keep spouting on about how well the GAA is administered and yet about 80% of all clubs and county boards are in serious debt . There is no problem with transferring in the AAI just get your club secretary to sign the form same as in the GAA .
Most of the stuff you are saying is just proving Kiernan right you do live in a cloistered world where you believe everything about the GAA wonderful and pure and it has no faults , I wonder then why did 8 counties not make themselves available for drug testing last year , why is there problems with racist abuse and complete lack of discipline with a large majority of club matches .
You then try to say that athletics is not a sport just to make more of a fool of yourself and by the way if you want to keep your opinions to yourself posting on an internet forum is not a great way of doing it .

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 21/02/2013 13:23:11    1337191

link

Maybe Jerry would have been better speaking with his fellow athletics compatriots before mouthing off and making himslef look like an ignoramus.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 21/02/2013 13:39:23    1337199

hill16no1man 2.8 seconds for 20 metres , there are U14s at the leinster indoors doing better times that that , thought you would know being a fitness instructor

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 21/02/2013 15:12:05    1337279

Tinrylandman
Most of the stuff you are saying is just proving Kiernan right you do live in a cloistered world where you believe everything about the GAA wonderful and pure and it has no faults , I wonder then why did 8 counties not make themselves available for drug testing last year , why is there problems with racist abuse and complete lack of discipline with a large majority of club matches .
You then try to say that athletics is not a sport just to make more of a fool of yourself and by the way if you want to keep your opinions to yourself posting on an internet forum is not a great way of doing it .

Brendan Hacketts response to Jerry Kiernans interview nails Kiernans assertions with regard to the commitment to fitness of intercounty hurlers and footballers. The argument is settled. Any assertion that our hurlers and footballers don't deserve their grants of 400 euro a year from The Sports Council has been blown well and truly out of the water. Contrary to your repeated assertions receipt of that grant does not compromise their amateur status. I asked you once and I'll ask you again given that amateur boxer Katy Taylor is in receipt of 40,000 euro pa from The Sports Council shoud she be stripped of her amateur status and consequently shoud she return her medal ?
Very few people in The GAA believe everything is pure within the organisation and within the games. What is beyond dispute is that no other sporting contributes as much to both the sporting and community well being of this country.
Could you please provide whatever evidence you have that would substantiate your claims that 80% of clubs and Co. Boards are in serious debt and that there are problems with racism and a complete lack of discipline at a large majority of club matches. I would like to see verified facts and figures.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 21/02/2013 16:34:34    1337368

Just another thread inspired by a wumming troll IE Jerry Kiernan! But we are forgetting what brought about these crazy comments: It was three Irish athletes on twitter: Barry Murphy(swimming) Thomas Chamney(running), Colin Griffin(walking(yes, you read correctly)).
They were the ones b*t*hing about the grant on twitter and obviously didn't have the gonads to follow it up with a radio interview...que the master of mullets our dear friend Jerry.


eg: Colin Griffin ‏@colingriffin

"@Barry_J_Murphy: @JonCoates Dec 2012... "all funding geared towards Olympic events", Feb 2013... "€900,000 for a domestic sport"" #joke

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 21/02/2013 16:52:50    1337388

900,000 euro for domestic sports whose inter county championships alone are projected to generate 600m euro for the economy over the next three years. I wonder what Griffin would make of that.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 21/02/2013 17:26:29    1337439

Greengrass it depends what the 40,000 was spent on if it was to cover her expenses for the year then she is amateur , if not then she is not what I would deem an amateur , also GAA players get good expenses as well

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 21/02/2013 17:33:59    1337444

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
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1337444 Greengrass it depends what the 40,000 was spent on if it was to cover her expenses for the year then she is amateur , if not then she is not what I would deem an amateur , also GAA players get good expenses as well

katie taylors father gave up job as an electrican, for a grant(wage) as a trainer.
katie tayler is getting money ,so that she doesnt turn pro, its in the form of a grant.(wage) fair play to both of them, she is probably the only irish sportsperson who is the best in the world in their field,by a good bit.

the word amatuer is lost in your arguements.
ye look after the best.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 21/02/2013 17:49:36    1337456

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 234

1337444 Greengrass it depends what the 40,000 was spent on if it was to cover her expenses for the year then she is amateur , if not then she is not what I would deem an amateur , also GAA players get good expenses as well

A straight answer tinryland . Thanks. What is the mileage rate for intercounty footballers and hurlers ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 21/02/2013 18:02:06    1337471

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 234

1337279
hill16no1man 2.8 seconds for 20 metres , there are U14s at the leinster indoors doing better times that that , thought you would know being a fitness instructor

then why arent they representing ireland at adult level seen as the irish sports council had guys from all sports doing these tests so in that case you are telling us all that under 14 sprinters are better then their adult counterparts,dont say much for you or jerrys aruguement

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/02/2013 20:33:08    1337556

Well 2.8 seconds for 20 metres would equate to 14 seconds for 100 metres , there are tons of athletes doing that

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 21/02/2013 20:54:27    1337577

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 234

Not reading the posts!!!

Try these and then make some relevant point:
Drugs in Sport: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/drugs-in-sport
There are pages and pages of it
Then again read this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/15/drugs-wada-organised-crime

Athletics equals PEDs, EPO, HGH, etc etc etc

The GAA is the biggest around because its the most relevant organisation in Irish society, because its the biggest we get all types. And no we are not riddled with racists nor thugs.

Chamney is wrong what he said and so is Kiernan about the GAA, but in my experience I am not wrong on the state of Athletics in Ireland or in the big bad world. But as you say "In my opinion" I say too.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 21/02/2013 20:59:40    1337582

21/02/2013 20:54:27
tinrylandman
Well 2.8 seconds for 20 metres would equate to 14 seconds for 100 metres , there are tons of athletes doing that
Yeah. loads doing that sort of time from under 14s up. the top underage athletics in ireland do around 11secs and some do 10.6/10.7 so 14 seconds is pedestrian

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/02/2013 21:05:22    1337589

Well 2.8 seconds for 20 metres would equate to 14 seconds for 100 metres

2.8 secs from a starting stop I assume. Presumably he wouldn't keep stopping and starting every 20 metres and might just keep running. He might even get a bit faster in the following 80m like everyone else who runs 100m.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 21/02/2013 21:13:54    1337596

doublehop
County: Kildare
Posts: 2773

1337596
Well 2.8 seconds for 20 metres would equate to 14 seconds for 100 metres

2.8 secs from a starting stop I assume. Presumably he wouldn't keep stopping and starting every 20 metres and might just keep running. He might even get a bit faster in the following 80m like everyone else who runs 100m.

exactly doublehop finally somebody with common sense

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/02/2013 09:03:15    1337636

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 235

1337577
Well 2.8 seconds for 20 metres would equate to 14 seconds for 100 metres , there are tons of athletes doing that

they could not beat it on the day they were testing them and it seems australian rules players cannot either as tadhg kennelly said that time blows them out of the water in australia.over 100 m

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/02/2013 09:04:54    1337639

over 100m is far differant to 20m ormond,as anybody knows you build up speed in a 100m dash.
starting off you obviously are slower as you have to like an engine go up the gears,so i would imagine his 100m time would be pretty impressive too.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/02/2013 09:06:49    1337640

very disappointed with mr Kiernans ill informed comments, of course more resources would help Irish athletes but very few have shown the potential to compete at the highest level in recent years especially in the mens middle and long distance events. Athletics is a sport which demands a huge level of commitment and really is a way of life but this alone doesn't mean it's worthy of grant aid. It's a tough sport where only the very best make it. I think it's better to encourage sport where most people can participate at some level rather than throw money at niche events like race walking and other obscure sports

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 22/02/2013 10:08:39    1337658

22/02/2013 10:08:39
lillyboy
very disappointed with mr Kiernans ill informed comments, of course more resources would help Irish athletes but very few have shown the potential to compete at the highest level in recent years especially in the mens middle and long distance events. Athletics is a sport which demands a huge level of commitment and really is a way of life but this alone doesn't mean it's worthy of grant aid. It's a tough sport where only the very best make it. I think it's better to encourage sport where most people can participate at some level rather than throw money at niche events like race walking and other obscure sports
When habe we ever competed in mens long distance events?
Why have a go at race walking? Its actually a sport where we have had some success.
What are all the sports you would encourage? List them all. Would be interesting to see your list and everyone elses?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 22/02/2013 10:43:23    1337672

Ormond, the 1980s was a golden era for Irish middle and long distance running, Coughlan, Treacy, Flynn, O'Sullivan, O'Meara, they could all compete with the best before the Africans decided that they could run after all! (You will note that Kiernan does not feature on that list)

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/02/2013 11:30:15    1337696