walkinglunchbox
County: Longford
Posts: 262

1334976 Jerry Kiernan is right in what he said. GAA players don't put in enough effort to warrant the funding. And there is no way that you can compare their commitment to serious Athletes.

Utter rubbish. They are serious athletes.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 16/02/2013 20:36:28    1334984

walkinglunchbox
County: Longford
Posts: 262

1334976
Jerry Kiernan is right in what he said. GAA players don't put in enough effort to warrant the funding. And there is no way that you can compare their commitment to serious Athletes.


Unless you can actually back up that stupid statement with some facts, then it will clear to all that your are looking for a reaction from everyone and nothing more.
What do intercounty players not do enough of to warrant funding?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 16/02/2013 20:41:38    1334987

The standard of some junior games are atrocious. Players out on their feet after five minutes. How come they get funding and serious runners on an international stage don't.

walkinglunchbox (Longford) - Posts: 334 - 16/02/2013 21:30:30    1335031

Junior footballers don't get funding , only intercounty footballers receive the funding Kiernan is talking about.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 16/02/2013 21:43:47    1335043

Are you seriously comparing junior footballers with international class track and field athletes, get real and that's not in the context of Kiernans remarks.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 16/02/2013 21:48:47    1335049

walkinglunchbox
County: Longford
Posts: 263

1335031 The standard of some junior games are atrocious. Players out on their feet after five minutes. How come they get funding and serious runners on an international stage don't.

Your obviously wumming, couldnt be that thick.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 16/02/2013 21:54:09    1335056

How many Olympic and World medals has Athletics brought home? Athletics people are so far up themselves sometimes it is unreal; mostly middle class snobs who went to private or grammar schools in my experience.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 16/02/2013 21:59:33    1335066

totally agree with you ulsterman i hate athletics , and the community games as well. every year we have a load of young lads missing training over them.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/02/2013 09:49:25    1335076

walkinglunchbox
County: Longford
Posts: 262

1334976
Jerry Kiernan is right in what he said. GAA players don't put in enough effort to warrant the funding. And there is no way that you can compare their commitment to serious Athletes.


You just showed your complete ignorance to this topic aswell as a total lack of intelligence and ability to read and answer even the simplistic of questions.

I asked you specifically in the context of this thread about INTER COUNTY players which is what is being discussed. You reply using junior club footballers as an example. This highlights how little you actually know about what your saying.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 17/02/2013 10:46:53    1335095

Sure I've heard stories of Intercounty players drinking night before games and smoking in the dressing room and dug out at games. Jerry Kiernan is right.

walkinglunchbox (Longford) - Posts: 334 - 17/02/2013 11:56:58    1335114

walkinglunchbox
County: Longford
Posts: 265

"We've all heard stories...." you couldn't bring something a little bit more concrete to the argument?

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 17/02/2013 12:26:43    1335125

This is whats wrong with this forum at times, instead of debating ,energy is being wasted in replying to someone who is obviously wumming.
anyone can do it, it just ruins it for everyone else.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 17/02/2013 12:44:22    1335134

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 1302

"We've all heard stories...." you couldn't bring something a little bit more concrete to the argument?

Proper Athletes are made of stone. GAA players are like bags of sand. Soft and slow.

walkinglunchbox (Longford) - Posts: 334 - 17/02/2013 12:45:30    1335135

The real issue is the GAA's refusal to pay out money to GPA players using there own funds of which are in plentiful supply. The 900,000 would be better served going to Athletics as it would have a more beneficial impact on the sport than if it were given as a GPA grant..............................

walkinglunchbox (Longford) - Posts: 334 - 17/02/2013 12:57:04    1335138

Lifford Gael
County: Donegal
Posts: 1610
The difference is that our kayakers, sailors, athletes etc are doing it on a world stage.
Ask most people around the globe if they know who Sonia O'Sullivan, Eamon Coghlan etc are and they'll all be able to tell you....ask them who Henry Shefflin or Karl Lacey are and you'll get a blank response....
Dont make me laugh..... Tis surely some of the potters on here that need a serious dose of realisation as to who lives in a cloistered world to be sure to be sure!

this jerry fella is having a go at the amount of coverage the gaa gets in the media,which he obviously doesnt read often or is oblivious to as he stats is the largets sport in the country but yet the gaa media coverage is quite poor for that and yet he sees no problem with english soccer being the most covered sport on the rte news or in the irish newspapers but has a problem with rte showing a clip of dublin v kerry ahead of some walker in holland but will not mention the full run down that english soccer results and clips from them matches.
you mention sonai o sullivan against henry shefflin and your only arguement is people around the world will have heard of sonia haha yeah she is famous for having a certain toilet break in the middle of a race not for any race she ever won,henry shefflin record in his sport is far more impressive then sonia o sullivan what did she actually win?
also i see you or jerry seem to think the athletics board runs its ship perfect well howcome at the last olympics we had 2 or 3 athletes sent over and had to pull out from injurys they were carrying before they even boarded a plane to london surely that is wasting peoples money sending them their is it not?
we also had that one guy who publicaly gave an interview after he ran poor in a race and said he didnt even ant to be there and was going to pack in the sport as he didnt enjoy it at all and that he had barely any training done for the olympics,amazing how jerry seems to have forgotten that

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/02/2013 15:10:24    1335189

The community games? I competed in them 30 years ago, do they still give each teams different coloured banners and t-shirts to wear? Our team would only have to go and be given PINK! It was a lovely shade though and looked nice in the sunshine.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 17/02/2013 15:34:13    1335203

As was said, his anger is vented in the wrong direction. bit of a cheap shot.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 17/02/2013 18:30:35    1335280

walkinglunchbox
County: Longford
Posts: 269

1335135
arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 1302

"We've all heard stories...." you couldn't bring something a little bit more concrete to the argument?

Proper Athletes are made of stone. GAA players are like bags of sand. Soft and slow.

Irish Athletes run like stone you mean.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 17/02/2013 18:37:09    1335284

Anyone who has even had a passing interest in Gaelic games over the last few years would know that our top athletes have actually gone beyond the maximum of what amateur players can achieve. Has this guy ever seen Kilkenny play? Has he seen how these guys can still accelerate at a frightening pace after 65 minutes of superhuman effort? Has he any idea of what other teams have to sacrifice in order to match that level of athletic commitment? Obviously he doesn't, which is fine, not everyone has to have a knowledge of Gaelic games. But if he's gonna come out and trash these players, he should at least have at least a fleeting knowledge of what these guys are capable of. If anything, athletics people should be working with the GAA to help promote athletics within the organization, as was once the case.

The GAA has had to change and open up with regard to other sports/codes (and rightly so), and it has to a large degree. However, when even the smallest section of the organization is seen to not be towing the line in this regard, even if its one person, people are quick to get on their soapboxes and hector the GAA, and lecture about respect, moving on, etc. I had hoped that the same people would dispatch some of their sanctimony in this guys direction this week. Sadly...

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 17/02/2013 20:32:46    1335342

i see mr kiernan has attracted the indignation of the gaa community and not least on this post...but he may just have a point...a study due to be published this week carried out in UCD has found that after studying 47 elite sports people across a range of sports, GAA players are the ones that areloading up in calories way beyond what they should be...what's worse is that they are the worst culprits at recording this in their food diaries...they were found to be loading upon sugary snacks between meals,and not sticking to their dietary programmes...maybe there is an element of truth in mr kiernan's comments after all

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 17/02/2013 21:45:59    1335385