Jerry!Jerry!Jerry!

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 26/03/2014 10:03:54    1565124

from Wiki

"Kiernan is a supporter of Shamrock Rovers and member of FC Barcelona and speaks almost fluent Italian. He is currently contemplating retirement from teaching at St. Brigid's Boys School, Foxrock where he was a teacher for approximately 40 years. He lives in Rathgar, Dublin 6. He has spent so much time in Dublin that despite being from Kerry his views on the GAA, a grass roots organisation in Ireland which promotes the playing of national games has become distorted. Perhaps if he came out of Rathgar and visited rural areas of Ireland where the GAA is prominent, and very often the only sporting outlet, he would finally grasp the difference they make in smaller communities with no other sporting infrastructure."
Poor Jerry I really feel for him.

derrymore (Kerry) - Posts: 180 - 26/03/2014 11:00:44    1565160

Sure arent the government technically investing this money in athletics. After all, it is the Gaelic Athletic Association.

The_purist (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 26/03/2014 12:18:46    1565212

While I think he is over the top here, I do feel for the athletes he is trying to represent. They dont get a whole lot of help and their plight is often ignored, and yes many do a fair bit more training than gaa players. Top level marathon training for example would be unbelievably difficult and very severe on the body, and all you have to do is look at the condition on the sprinters to see what kind of work is required there. It must be hard to watch them get passed over in favour of lads who are supposed to be amatuer yet (whisper it) often find themselves in handy full time employment with very understanding employers, get free cars, sponsorship deals etc etc.

Attacking gaa players isnt the way to help them though

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 26/03/2014 12:25:51    1565221

cuederocket
County: Dublin
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A Ronnie O'Sullivan inspired pseudonym?

If so, I like it :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8744 - 26/03/2014 12:37:39    1565226

Could Jerry be the ONLY Kerryman with views like that on the GAA, or are there more of ye lurking in the bushes?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 26/03/2014 13:02:55    1565244

I made a comment in temper re winter olympians , I was basicaly having a dig at the non irish born who figured so well for Ireland this year NOT, have to say rarely has anyone united so many on this site well done Jerry .
now just wondering is there anyone to rival Jerry in the anti GAA stakes , obvious candidates not allowed Rev I paisley etc

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 26/03/2014 13:27:54    1565266

If Kiernan is trying to say that Ireland would win loads of gold medals at every Olympics only for the big nasty GAA taking all the money that would otherwise go to Athletics then he is completely wrong. There have been examples of athletes that were quite well funded by the government and then were eliminated in the first heat in the Olympics.
Has Jerry ever considered that may be why they don't get more money?

fonzi (Cork) - Posts: 14 - 26/03/2014 13:29:23    1565267

Real problem are the organisations that run other sports, not the GAA or the Government. If the orgs can't get people involved then blame themselves.

And Jerry its not bout money International success. Look at boxing, our most successful international sport and with bugger all money in the past.

Maybe the reason we have not had success in running is that the likes of Jerry are lousy trainers?

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 26/03/2014 13:54:56    1565291

I mean, how hard is it to run in a straight line ?

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 26/03/2014 13:55:35    1565292

brendtheredhand
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Could Jerry be the ONLY Kerryman with views like that on the GAA, or are there more of ye lurking in the bushes?


Oh believe me Brend, there are plenty of Jerry's ilk down here for whatever reason.

Cute_Kerry_Hoor (Kerry) - Posts: 2518 - 26/03/2014 14:19:40    1565311

witnof
And Jerry its not bout money International success. Look at boxing, our most successful international sport and with bugger all money in the past.

I think you will find that isnt accurate. Our boxers get treated far better than our other athletes. Boxing has been prioritised and the results are there to see. So pretty much wrong on all counts there!

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 26/03/2014 14:33:56    1565322

TheMaster

Sorry but the boxers are getting money now, correct and rightly so but they have been bringing in medals for over half a century and well before the money ploughed (?) into the sport.

Even then look at the facilities Katie Taylor was using up to the Olympics!

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 26/03/2014 15:12:39    1565348

A former long-distance runner accusing another sport of not being entertaining? Ha-ha.

fonzi (Cork) - Posts: 14 - 26/03/2014 15:21:07    1565350

the master

the reason atheletes like marathon runners spend more time on fitness then gaa players is simple
they dont do any skill training!!!!!!!!!
the only skill neccesary to run a marathon is fitness so therefore all your training is fitness training
where as gaa players have skills as their main training base as fitness is not the main component of their sport

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/03/2014 15:28:25    1565355

I think hes completely right in saying that the GAA should get less off the government. that way it would force the GAA to start marketing more matches and selling more games to TV in foreign markets allowing expats and new people to see it.
Also think people who are competing in Olympic sports should get way more of the government to achiece success in an international arena as the GAA is local and popular only here.

His comments on fitness are a a bit ilinformed and also his dislike the sport in general shrouds his opinions in predjudice weakening his argument

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 26/03/2014 15:50:31    1565372

I dont get this. On a few levels i dont get this.

Ok lets go one by one.

FITNESS
Forget about Intercounty players. The average Junior A player is now adays given a preseason gym programme. Does the normal pre season strength and conditioning training and for the rest of the year has to train at least two nights a week with a match on weekends. As you move up the grades that training gets harder. Inter County Gaa players are Athletes simple as. along with fitness required to run jog walk sprint they also required fierce flexibility for turning at pace. High jumping ability for fielding and great strength for impacts in tackling. So this gentlemans comments regarding fitness just illustrates his ignorance of what is required for those 70 mins and his lack of knowledge of the physical makeup required for the sport.Athletes are specifically trained people. Sprinters dont run the 5000 metres and visa versa.

ECONOMICS

Yes the gaa are the richest sporting organisation in the counrty. But this is only possible because they are also the most followed sporting organisation in the country. The money they gain is on sponsorship and gate receipts. They cant be held accountable that due to their huge following that Companies love to sponsor them and in the same breath that so many people will pay to go see the games. However it isnt right that the biggest sport in ireland and the most national sport in ireland should be excluded from the Irish sports council grants. The Gaa games are mostly played in ireland but are watched world wide. Athletics wouldnt have a particularly big patron following. Also something that needs to be taken into account is the economic benefit to the counties and country when the championship season starts. Increases tourism increases spending so the contribution by the gaa is significant.

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 26/03/2014 16:26:45    1565391

agree with fishermantom on the point of forcing the gaa to market the games
but not abroad as its wasting money in my view
id prefer to see them market the games here far better then is currntly being done
they market the all ireland series from august to september
but id rather see the money pumped into marketing the national leagues
theres great scope their to have the league on a far bigger scale then it currently is
this year in my view has gone backwards
over the last 5 years the league was growing all the time
but this year if you were not a gaa man/woman you wouldnt even be influenced to go to a match
such as the lack of promoting or awareness that their are matches on and where they are on
the annoying thing is when they do market they get huge response
take the twice they have done it in the football league
dublin v tyrone for the first floodlight match sold out croker
and then for the 125 anniversary dublin v tyrone sold out croker again
this weekend would have been another great chance to market
dublin v mayo a repeat of last years all ireland final
yet your hard pressed to find any marketing for this game and its now wednesday evening

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/03/2014 17:05:38    1565423

26/03/2014 16:26:45 ritchie
I dont get this. On a few levels i dont get this.
Ok lets go one by one.
FITNESS
Forget about Intercounty players. The average Junior A player is now adays given a preseason gym programme. Does the normal pre season strength and conditioning training and for the rest of the year has to train at least two nights a week with a match on weekends. As you move up the grades that training gets harder. Inter County Gaa players are Athletes simple as. along with fitness required to run jog walk sprint they also required fierce flexibility for turning at pace. High jumping ability for fielding and great strength for impacts in tackling. So this gentlemans comments regarding fitness just illustrates his ignorance of what is required for those 70 mins and his lack of knowledge of the physical makeup required for the sport.Athletes are specifically trained people. Sprinters dont run the 5000 metres and visa versa.
Do most junior plays have that kind of set up? 2 training sessions a week plus a match a week. In my experience certainly at home in Tipperary that is not the case and very few sides have a game a week at most levels.
26/03/2014 16:26:45 ritchie
ECONOMICS
Yes the gaa are the richest sporting organisation in the counrty. But this is only possible because they are also the most followed sporting organisation in the country. The money they gain is on sponsorship and gate receipts. They cant be held accountable that due to their huge following that Companies love to sponsor them and in the same breath that so many people will pay to go see the games. However it isnt right that the biggest sport in ireland and the most national sport in ireland should be excluded from the Irish sports council grants. The Gaa games are mostly played in ireland but are watched world wide. Athletics wouldnt have a particularly big patron following. Also something that needs to be taken into account is the economic benefit to the counties and country when the championship season starts. Increases tourism increases spending so the contribution by the gaa is significant. GAA gets plenty of other grants etc and income from elsewhere and more than likely if GAA was to get monies from the Irish Sports Council a lot of other sports would lose out and those sports don't have anything near the support/backing of hurling/gaelic

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 26/03/2014 17:22:32    1565429

Paul Coggins statement on main page says it all .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 26/03/2014 18:42:07    1565473