Indeed, mayo were accredited with giving the best example of attacking football of the entire season against the dubs last year, were they not? What was that about lack of knowledge?

Accredited by who.... RTE the same organisation you blame for costing you an All Ireland !?

HA we all remember the worst Al Finals in living memory too and they all involve Mayo cause the game is finished after ten minutes.
Bluewave Dublin




Well said Bluewave, that was a Knockout post! ;)
The referee/administrator will have to put an end
to this thread now, someone is getting a hiding and
doesn't know when he is beat! Hopefully the Mayo
whinging will stop here, doubtful!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 18/01/2013 20:12:35    1320498

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JUST SHUT UP MAYO SHUT UP!

Very funny, brilliant...

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8783 - 19/01/2013 16:35:28    1320598

Thegatekeeper,when Tyrone are (correctly) accused of diving you and Ulsterman et al howl like banshees and scream anti Nothern bias but when Mayo are (also correctly) accused of diving and then complain you tell them to stop whinging.
That makes no sense.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 19/01/2013 16:48:39    1320602

Master
All county teams are cynical to some degree, the age of romance in county football is long dead. Mayo's problem is that their particular brand of cynicism is so crude and obvious as to be an affront to any lover of classy cynicism. Donegal on the other hand employ a type of cynicism that is subtle & easy on the eye.
I think that this is what Brolly was going on about, he was always in favour of classy elegant cynicism & Mayo's bogman type just annoyed him.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 19/01/2013 17:06:19    1320607

Horan should not be letting things like this get under his skin, it's a weakness and it won't do his players any favours...

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8783 - 19/01/2013 21:40:20    1320714

Donegal and easy on the eye!!!! Well there's a statement i never thought I'd see written down :) .
Look cynical fouling is now part of the modern games, very few counties don't do it, only two come to mind my own and limerick (remember had kildare beat if the just pulled down a guy in last seconds of game)
even in recent obyrne cup game v louth meath allowed them to come up and get equalizing score, I'd say that may change come championship. Now hear is the funny thing Dublin used cynical fouling during dying secs of leinster final so meath could not get a goal, laois used exact same tactics v meath six days later, then Dublin used them against laois. Mayo brought it to a new level when they did it to Dublin, see what im getting at? You can't do it's yourself one day and then complain about it when it's done to you, it's a element of the game that can't really be properly reffed, what use is a free on the fourteen line when it's injury time your two down and your goal scorer was rugby tackled to ground

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/01/2013 10:06:03    1320723

Too all the Donegal posters enjoying the discomfort of the Mayo lads have a read of what Brolly "really" thinks:
http://www.gaeliclife.com/2013/01/06/joe-brolly-a-review-of-the-year/

"Gaelic football continues its journey towards American football, a problem that the FRC's superficial recommendations have done nothing to solve. Jim McGuinness ingeniously plotted and executed an All-Ireland triumph but at what cost to the game? Solo running, handpassing, holding possession at all costs and playing with at least twelve defenders has become the norm."

All counties are at it though now, making the game sterile, impossible to watch without any enjoyment in it at all.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 20/01/2013 18:18:56    1320888

A Donegal poster referring to Mayo as bogmen......now where is my kettle

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11652 - 20/01/2013 20:13:06    1320952

Muckross, so you think that if someone robs a bank with style, they shouldnt be looked on as harshly as someone who robs a bank in a crude fashion? Pull the other one...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 20/01/2013 20:14:33    1320953

My post was supposed to be tongue in cheek lads. I think HoganStand should allow smileys on here!!!

The point I was trying to make was that there is a world of difference in the type of cynicism Donegal, Dublin & other top teams employ and the crude head high tackles we saw from Mayo in the first five minutes of the final. Both of those dangerous tackles merited yellow cards & the second one would easily have seen red on another day. There was nothing from Donegal on remotely the same scale.
Every team is cynical nowadays, Mayo included, but you have to have an element of cuteness about you if you want to get away with it.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 20/01/2013 20:59:36    1320996

you dont enjoy modern football arock?...i felt last year was a very good year in general

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 20/01/2013 21:04:02    1320999

teams have always been cynical certainly the best teams have always been clever and cynical than the rest..its part of being a winner..things are just way more analysed and blown up nowadays especially negatives aspects to gaelic football seem to be consistently blown out of proportion

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 20/01/2013 21:10:52    1321006

Nobody is debating those tackles muckross, they were fouls and warranted cards. However, those are not the fouls that brought about a change in the rules. They are yellow card fouls, and if the rules comes in they will still be yellow card fouls, nothing has changed there. However, if donegal played the same game again, with the new rules, they would have 8 or 9 black cards. I agree that there is a world of difference between what donegal do and what mayo do. Donegal have it down to a finer art, they foul guys in seemingly unthreatening positions with low impact fouls, and so dont get cards. However they do it every single time, so the opposition never get the chance to get into the positions where mayo were carrying out their cynical tackling. But this idea of killing everything at the source ruins the game as a spectacle. But doesnt that indicate that donegal have a more cynical approach to cynical fouling? Which is my point all along.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/01/2013 10:39:14    1321073

"More cynical approach to cynical fouling"? Another gem from the gemmaster

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 21/01/2013 12:43:33    1321160

Cheers Tyronetim, I liked that one myself...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/01/2013 14:11:36    1321226

Master, My point is that everyone does it. Just because Donegal do it better than other counties is a curious criticism.
Hopefully the black cards will sort it out but personally I think that moving the ball up 30 metres instead of 13 would put a stop to a lot of it there & then.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 21/01/2013 15:20:10    1321276

Well the point is muckross, the better a team are at intentionally breaking the rules, the more they can use it and the more influence it will have. I think they could just have made intentional cynical play a card offence. This notion that the referees are incapable of distinguishing whether a foul was cynical or not is nonsense. If we can see it way up in the stands then why cant they? Give a guy a warning about it and if he repeats it or if the team start rotating the offenders then just start giving them cards. No need for black cards at all.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/01/2013 15:43:16    1321303

The Master I have to totally disagree with the Dublin being cynical team against Laois....a blind man would see that Laois were worse than any team in the premier league the diving antics of them against Dublin was ridiculous and was some of the most cynical stuff we have seen in croke park by any team including mayo and donegals performances!!!

pigonastick (Dublin) - Posts: 487 - 21/01/2013 15:43:19    1321304

pigonastick Yeh Laois were very cynical against us as well, and they took Keogan out of the game, but I'm not complaining because we were asleep that day but it was probably one of the most cynical performances I've seen. There was ten yellow cards in the game and Laois received 8 of them!

ClassApart (Meath) - Posts: 1200 - 21/01/2013 16:03:02    1321324

A few people have said Dublin were cynical against Laois. Think they should have a look at the game again. Dublin were poor that day , thats about it.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 21/01/2013 20:52:51    1321520