07/01/2013 21:43:07
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400-800m runs are the way to go in terms of gaa fitness i think
Longer IMO. 800-1500mtrs. Middle distance runs not sprints, which a 400m is

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/01/2013 21:59:00    1315055

mixture of the 2 i suppose and lots of them..very tough training

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 07/01/2013 22:00:04    1315058

mixture of the two

you also need to incorporate strength training into most sessions and carry that through the season

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1904 - 08/01/2013 08:06:19    1315061

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1313501 thats the point Culann!!!
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What sort of times would you record for that in when fully fit and what level are you playing at. I personally do the 5k comfortably under 24 minutes and would do the 10k in about 50-51 minutes and play junior (z!!) football. (I'm nearly hitting 40 and am well and truely past my best!!)

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donegaldouble (Donegal) - Posts: 321 - 08/01/2013 11:59:29    1315153

I find it you maintain a decent fitness throughout winter then straight into sprints. Its sickening but no point being aboe to run all day if you can beat a man to a ball. I have been running 5/10km each week just to keep ticking over along with some (small amount) of gym work.

We havent gone back training for another while so im gonna start into the sprints and hopefully get a jump on the rest when we do go back.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 08/01/2013 12:29:48    1315167

it amazes me the levels club sides go to to get fit then when it comes to a match they cant kick a ball over the bar from 30 yards or strike a point from 50 yards or rise a sideline of the ground.

Fitnees work done with the ball plenty of conditioned training games and challenge matches and watch your fitness improve. Yet to see a GAA player run 5k non stop or sprint 400 meteres non stop.

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 08/01/2013 13:20:56    1315218

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1315055 07/01/2013 21:43:07
ffgg
400-800m runs are the way to go in terms of gaa fitness i think
Longer IMO. 800-1500mtrs. Middle distance runs not sprints, which a 400m is

A question for both of you? When do you ever run 400 to 1500m at once in a match?

Con (Louth) - Posts: 511 - 08/01/2013 13:27:18    1315221

do you run 5k either con?..at a slow pace?..waste of time that type of training..thats the type of training top sides do them extreme runs of 400-800-1500

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 08/01/2013 14:35:44    1315296

08/01/2013 13:27:18
Con
A question for both of you? When do you ever run 400 to 1500m at once in a match?
Why you asking that?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/01/2013 15:13:32    1315344

Your training should be tailored to your position, your strengths and weaknesses as a player firmly in consideration.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 08/01/2013 19:29:15    1315540

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1315055 07/01/2013 21:43:07
ffgg
400-800m runs are the way to go in terms of gaa fitness i think
Longer IMO. 800-1500mtrs. Middle distance runs not sprints, which a 400m is

A question for both of you? When do you ever run 400 to 1500m at once in a match?

boxers do alot of running in training, dont think a whistle goes and they sprint around the ring, (unless maybe its mr bean fighting)

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 08/01/2013 19:34:09    1315543

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I am settled in East Clare with my wife and son
The local GAA club is a Hurling club, they literally have no football team
I am not a Hurling man, never have been, never will be I am afraid

Nearest Football team is in Limerick City and even there its hard to find one!

Does your local hurling team have a junior B or Junior C team Liam? I don't know what junior B is like around east Clare but in parts of Cork, there wouldnt be too many hurling men on them either...a lot of bluffers, bulls....ers right enough-short on hurlers though(I'd know I have been at that level for 17 years now)

Give it ago...get yourself an oul stick if you can throw the ball up and hit it as it comes down your good to go...if you can't you'll just have to in full-back

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 08/01/2013 20:16:06    1315569

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boxers do alot of running in training, dont think a whistle goes and they sprint around the ring, (unless maybe its mr bean fighting)

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Very true, they do a lot of running to build up an aerobic base. I'm sure it's a culture or a traditional thing with boxers, but there are a lot easier and more specific ways to build up aerobic endurance. As with GAA, IMO there are better more specific ways ways to build match specific fitness then 400 to 1500m runs without a ball to be seen. GetOverTheBar makes a very valid point.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, it will no doubt improve fitness, and sometimes its just good for team moral to get a perceived tough session in, but short, sharp stuff with the ball will do the same job. And possibly improve speed, agility and ball skill at the same time.

Con (Louth) - Posts: 511 - 08/01/2013 20:55:06    1315592

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boxers do alot of running in training, dont think a whistle goes and they sprint around the ring, (unless maybe its mr bean fighting)

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Very true, they do a lot of running to build up an aerobic base. I'm sure it's a culture or a traditional thing with boxers, but there are a lot easier and more specific ways to build up aerobic endurance. As with GAA, IMO there are better more specific ways ways to build match specific fitness then 400 to 1500m runs without a ball to be seen. GetOverTheBar makes a very valid point.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, it will no doubt improve fitness, and sometimes its just good for team moral to get a perceived tough session in, but short, sharp stuff with the ball will do the same job. And possibly improve speed, agility and ball skill at the same time.

sure all of them things are done, its also about varying things,

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 08/01/2013 21:42:50    1315629

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sure all of them things are done, its also about varying things,

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Very true, I never said it wasn't, in fact I said it can have a role. But you will find coaches who believe that GAA players should be training like a 800m or 1500m runner, when training should be far more specific to the needs of the game.

Con (Louth) - Posts: 511 - 09/01/2013 15:09:04    1315878

thats fitness training con..this isnt about training overall just fitness training

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 09/01/2013 15:17:07    1315885

Training like a 800-1500m athlete might not be such a bad idea if your a mobile half back/forward. Although you will get injured if you don't practice these runs on a pitch, twisting and turning off each side with it. Treadmills are the devil for GAA/Soccer players - excellent for building up aerobic base sure, just be aware its a forced motion and your muscles will be under much more pressure when you do hit the grass because grass 'twitches' muscle more than a treadmill.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 09/01/2013 15:23:41    1315891

400m runs on a track x 6 once a week in between 2 nights running 5 - 10 km also.. Start steady but keep up the 400m runs, i did them before and it was the fittest i ever was... get a few with you for alternating taking the lead..

81DLSAM (Donegal) - Posts: 281 - 09/01/2013 20:30:08    1316062

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400m runs on a track x 6 once a week in between 2 nights running 5 - 10 km also.. Start steady but keep up the 400m runs, i did them before and it was the fittest i ever was... get a few with you for alternating taking the lead..
What pace do you do the 400m runs?
like are you doing them all out or half pace or 70%/80%?
There should be plenty of time between each 400m run if you are to really benefit from the runs. No point doing the 400m run and then doing the next one after 1minutes rest if you are doing them all out or at 70/80% of your potential ability to do them

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/01/2013 21:30:41    1316079

ormond, sorry for slow reply.. we were doing the runs at about 90 to 100%. if i remember correctly we were hitting upper 80 seconds per lap of track and worked into upper 70s per lap after a gud few weeks. its tough and u need to push yourselves, hence why i suggest you take a couple others and alternate leaders to take the pace. you need a good walk and few minutes inbetween runs.. if training is mainly ball work it is a great way of opening up the legs midweek also but difficult to work with tuesday thursday sessions.. hope this helps

81DLSAM (Donegal) - Posts: 281 - 12/01/2013 09:22:30    1317191