Rosineri1
County: UK
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but like you said we have two of the greatest sports in the world why do you feel the need they need to be approved by america or britain or other countrys maybe its becuase your not currently living in ireland that you have this opinion but for somebody living here i dont see any need for change in our game tactics is tactics and thats always going to change but other than that we have for over 125 years now had brilliant sports which are showcased to the world its not the gaa do not need to go to other countries to play matches at the real supporters expense thats my point.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/11/2012 17:19:20    1303980

Culann
County: Dublin
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Whats funny about that ffgg is that next off you'll be saying me and hill said we wanted to bring back the ban!

haha exactly spot on here.the chaps unreal for twisting and then decides he doesnt want to talk about it only to bring the same point up again in another thread

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/11/2012 17:21:13    1303983

pati
County: Meath
Posts: 41

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Im talking about the small mindedness and backwards ways in which we have a tendeancy to do things. And most of all the lack of foresight. God sure why would you want to play our game away in one of those foreign countries. Those silly Americans were mad to bring their college football teams over here to play their football in order to introduce the sport to some of those who have never seen it live and gain a few extra supporters, absolute madness.

they brought over with them some 30-35 thousand of the 50 thousand crowd that attended the match with them from america there was also a whole night on rte for them do you think that will happen for the gaa that we will bring over that numbers and that the american national staation will have a specail night for our supporters?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/11/2012 17:24:25    1303986

your fairly overreacting to this one game hill...its one league game...hardly anything big and not too many people losing out in all fairness...we should showcase our sports to the world be it through scheduling games abroad or be it through making them more accessible worldwide..and in relation to american approval or whatever the reason its amercia because it is the most blatant target audience for the gaa to try and make inroads to due to the amount of irish over there

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 28/11/2012 17:25:18    1303987

pati
County: Meath
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culann here's hills post about the ban in the sweetnam rugby thread "if other sports ban players from playing gaa then the gaa should look into having it in a gaa contract that you are banned from aussie rules trials while you are a member of a gaa club" excellent suggestion. Oh, incase you hadn't noticed, that was sarcasm on my part. I noticed you didnt pick up on it in my previous comment so i figured i'd point it out to you this time round and help ya out buddy.

yes i suggested they should not be allowed hand pick our top players when i said club you know i ment inter county team as referring to the club scene in australia gaa inter county teams are there equivalent whats wrong with that its not re introducing the ban that was there years ago its doing what all the other sports do at top level to keep their players playing their sports if you want to call it a ban go ahead but not as ffgg is trying to suggest re introducing the ban that was their years ago.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/11/2012 17:29:33    1303992

thats fine then hill..i just wasnt quite sure what you meant

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 28/11/2012 17:36:36    1304002

its part and parcel of being an amateur sport though hill..you cant have it both ways

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 28/11/2012 17:41:00    1304006

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 3181

they brought over with them some 30-35 thousand of the 50 thousand crowd that attended the match with them from america

Well there's already well over 30-35 thousand Irish people over there so I can't really see the crowd or lack thereof being a problem. I don't think we'd bring over those numbers but we hardly have a population base that compares really.

there was also a whole night on rte for them do you think that will happen for the gaa that we will bring over that numbers and that the american national staation will have a specail night for our supporters?

Are you referring to any national station in particular?

yes i suggested they should not be allowed hand pick our top players

They aren't really handpicking top players though are they? They're inviting lads to trials alright, but that's hardly the same as them rocking up on a boat and loading any footballer they want onto it.

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1869

its part and parcel of being an amateur sport though hill..you cant have it both ways

Now now, if people want it both ways let them have it.

They'd probably end up complaining that they can't have it three ways (that's what she said) then though.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 28/11/2012 17:51:13    1304013

hill16no1man
County: Dublin

they brought over with them some 30-35 thousand of the 50 thousand crowd that attended the match with them from america there was also a whole night on rte for them do you think that will happen for the gaa that we will bring over that numbers and that the american national staation will have a specail night for our supporters?
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You never know, depending on what city is was in, I think its quite likely that a hurling final such as this would get some coverage on a local channel (probably not in New York though). I've seen a few news spots on American channels over the last few given over to hurling, and to the new places its growing over there, spots such as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-WIGqdqE94

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 28/11/2012 18:32:37    1304029

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1869

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your fairly overreacting to this one game hill...its one league game...hardly anything big and not too many people losing out in all fairness...we should showcase our sports to the world be it through scheduling games abroad or be it through making them more accessible worldwide..and in relation to american approval or whatever the reason its amercia because it is the most blatant target audience for the gaa to try and make inroads to due to the amount of irish over there

id actualy say australia would be abetter place to get more people to go seen as they have a big irish population and a sport there which we play against most years internationaly.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/11/2012 10:25:10    1304188

f_in_doubt

there might be that amount over there but they already have a match every year to go to with a team represnting that city playing in a competition of greater merit than this one and they do not turn out to watch that match.i dont know the american national stations but whichever is there equivalent of rte here.
dont be smart you know full well what handpicking ment there getting a free reign while other sports do not let this happen there top players.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/11/2012 10:29:28    1304189

marlonjd

but they already have a championship match representing the actual city of new york and the crowds dont turn up i cannot see how a lesser competition would attract them?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/11/2012 10:31:12    1304191

ffgg

thats ok no problem.
ok but how come so many people have a big problem with transfers within the gaa mainly club transfers within a county and look how hard they make it for that to happen yet nothing is put in place to try keep top inter county players, you may have to sit 3 or 4 years out of the game to get club transfer.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/11/2012 10:35:35    1304192

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 3189

dont be smart you know full well what handpicking ment there getting a free reign while other sports do not let this happen there top players.

Other sports don't let it happen because they are professional.

Other sports also have international ruling bodies to govern transfers and the movement of players from one country / club to another.

A particular sport would have no power over a player if he decided to quit and take up another sport altogether though.

Unless the GAA goes professional it can't stop lads attending trials. To ban amateur players from taking part in other sports would be borderline illegal.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 29/11/2012 11:15:26    1304218

but they can ban them from playing gaa for another club?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/11/2012 11:27:56    1304227

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 3193

but they can ban them from playing gaa for another club?

Well they can only rule over transfers within the GAA. Just because they can doesn't make it right.

Rightly or wrongly the only power the GAA have regarding transfers is regard to players moving club or county, they can have no say in a player leaving to play another sport or attending trials in another sport. It's quite simply out of their control.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 29/11/2012 12:39:28    1304278

but would you not rather see a club player get a transfer to another club that way he continues to play the sport while trying to keep our top players at inter county level there surely is a way around it in terms of holding trials for aussie rules for them here in ireland on gaa pitches,there is payment to players in terms of grants and petrol allownces so ther should be a way down that route.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/11/2012 14:42:55    1304381

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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but would you not rather see a club player get a transfer to another club that way he continues to play the sport while trying to keep our top players at inter county level there surely is a way around it in terms of holding trials for aussie rules for them here in ireland on gaa pitches,there is payment to players in terms of grants and petrol allownces so ther should be a way down that route.

Rather see a club player get a transfer to another club over what?

If the GAA doesn't allow trials on a GAA clubs pitch then it's not as if the Aussies won't be able to go and rent a pitch or a hall from a football club or a rugby club.

You'd hardly be advocating withholding allowances to players if they take part in other sports would you?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 29/11/2012 14:56:00    1304390

austrailia is a good market yes hill although not as big as america and possibly canada.....in relation to the transfers the gaa would probably have to be professional as the players would have to have contracts and that which dont allow them to play other sports...its great being amateur but there is the odd negative effect of it

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 29/11/2012 15:19:18    1304404

gaa can only rule over their members nobody else

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 29/11/2012 15:20:15    1304405