ffgg
County: Longford
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what would you have as the best city in the world hill?.please dont say dublin..you really have it against media of all forms it seems...i dont mind the games being brought to america as there is enough of us out there and it would be great to see it..there is very little interest in the league finals as it is and im all for growing the games around the world why wouldnt anybody want to see the game grown abroad?...and as for people emigrating do you have a problem with that hill?..its not the gaas fault but its hardly their fault either

i wouldnt have any city as best in world because its impossible to define,here we go have another go at dublin and jump to conclusions,you must just hate the mcdonalds add with the longford guy in it.no i have it against how much they brainwash people.if theres enough out there why dont they go and support new york when they play in the championship? there would be even less interest in it being played in new york as all it would be viewed as is a holiday.
no they can emigrate all they like but just like club orange you cant ask them to sell it in every country just because a few irish might venture there now can you just like the gaa why waste money in foreign countys when they dont do it here for starters.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/11/2012 20:19:21    1302119

AthCliath
County: Dublin
Posts: 1224

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ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1731

1302107 i would love to see gaa on sky also..even though sky can be a bit annoying they are exceptionally good at providing sports with extensive coverage if they show an interest in it

And who would you like commentating jamie rednapp?


oh god that would be the end of gaa as we know it and to think some people called jim mcguinness the grim reaper last year could you imagine how awful it would be to listen to british commentary on our game they dont bother to try and pronounce our soccer or rugby players names as it is and they play in their countrys.
its so sad that irish people want gaa on sky considering what the gaa was set up for it just shows how much influence the brainwashers now have on these mediums.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/11/2012 20:23:43    1302122

ffgg
County: Longford
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whatever about bringing games abroad i feel it is very important to get the games shown on tv stations abroad in britain america and australia...a deal with sky could be very beneficial in the long run plus rte are in far too much of a comfort zone as it is in terms of gaa coverage so it would be no harm for some more competition

why is it important when 90 % of the people attending and watching gaa live on the island of ireland?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/11/2012 20:25:57    1302123

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1734

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haha please no....sure look at them with formula one i have no interest in the sport personally but it seems to be going well..rtes coverage of gaa is shocking

so your alternative is to give it to a british station?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/11/2012 20:26:49    1302124

god you have an awful siege mentality against dublin god relax..i agree the best city in world argument is all about opinions just saying in my own opinion the idea of dublin being it would be laughable...i dont know probably because new york are going to get hammered i suppose but gaa is big enough out there in new york and boston with all the irish out there..i agree the marketing in ireland is pathetic...i hope you do have the knowledge to know if sky were to show an irish sport i presume that would be with irish commentators pundits etc as thats basic common sense..sky may be a british tv station but it serves both britain and ireland so i dont see the issue..the gaa was setup over a century ago hill time has moved on i dont see any issue with providing non irish the chance to watch and get into the sport..stop trying to portray people as brainwashed just because they have different opinions to you..rte are in far too much of a comfort zone and do not treat the gaa with enough respect...i want the game to grow outside ireland do you not hill?..i dont see the issue with making gaa more accessible in other countries especially those with massive amounts of irish people

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 23/11/2012 20:44:19    1302127

sky also do a pretty good job with the american football and the sport is growing over there

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 23/11/2012 20:45:09    1302128

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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1301973 Culann
County: Dublin
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here its called rte.
hill16no1man , 23/11/2012 at 13:55

I don't mean to be a smart ar#e i agree with your point but its actaully called RTÉ.

haha yeah true my mobile hasnt got a fada on it though.

I was bit surprised with that coming from yourself all right. Acceptable excuse!

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 23/11/2012 20:52:48    1302133

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 3151

1301994 Culann

haha good man.well from a financial point of view the international rules series is much better for the gaa it regularly got a full house in croker during the 00tys and last time was on here it got 30 thousand into the gaelic grounds in limerick which is massive exposure in a county and stadium where nobody attends matches so was a success and then in croker got 60 thousand the following week so it still brings in the crowds.

Look yourself and the Galway fella are after getting through to me about the league final leaving the country but you are not going to get through to me on this one. I'd prefer for our own games to be promoted than that compromise game. Sorry. Not budging.

on the promotion aspect just look what they can achieve when the games are promoted vigurously dublin v tyrone under lights in croker twice got 80 thousand crowds for the league matches,surely with the likes of double headers in the provincial championships it means they only have to advertise for one stadium so they should be well able to promote them through advertising instead of just one lazy add that covers the whole year and doesnt target individual games.

I agree one hundred per cent. Good example. If 80,000 are willing to go and see one league match why shouldn't there be high attendances all over the country at every league match. Most teams only average about 11 or 12 games a year and only half of them are at home. Every county board should do everything they can to ensure a big a crowd as possible at all these games. The games are losing out to a lack of promotion within the association and big time by our so called media.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 23/11/2012 21:02:22    1302139

bennybunny
County: Cork
Posts: 1483

1302071 I have been to New York and I would consur with Yew Tree. It is the best city on earth (in my opinion as well). Times Square, the 59th street bridge, Soho, Central Park at Christmas, 5th Avenue are iconic global landmarks..maybe it is because of the American media, regardless they are iconic, amazing (man-made places)..if we deal solely in objectivity (as supposed to subjectivity), then only possibly London, Rio, Paris or Tokyo could compete with New York. It would be great to have a major GAA game there, though as i said earlier, I would like to see the GAA sort out its marketing shambles here first. We are miles behind other organizations.

We all have different tastes and are all obviously entitled to our own opinions but I have to say that its one of the most tackiest, fake and manufactured cities you could every go to.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 23/11/2012 21:05:43    1302140

i agree culann there should be far more worked done on promoting the league however the teams or the gaa dont exactly help it either but basically treating it as a warm up tournament or secondary competition to the championship...if there was a better structure in place perhaps the gaa would get better attendences all year round at inter county level?..what was your favourite city culann?..i agree plenty of them can be tacky wasnt a fan of london myself but im not too much of a fan of the cities in our own island either bar galway i suppose which is the nicest city in my opinion

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 23/11/2012 21:12:30    1302142

sky may be a british tv station but it serves both britain and ireland so i dont see the issue..the gaa was setup over a century ago hill time has moved on i dont see any issue with providing non irish the chance to watch and get into the sport.

It serves Britain. Irish people just like to follow and copy the British. I knew this consenus with you couldn't last. Sky is British owned and covers British sport as well as sport from other countries and was set up to provide coverage of these things mainly to a British audience. As far as I know it does not cover Irish sport.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 23/11/2012 21:16:28    1302144

what was your favourite city culann
ffgg , 23/11/2012 at 21:12

Tough question to answer off the top of my head. I like Galway, Seville, Prague of about 2000 (beofre stags hit the place and they started to betray their language and culture in place of tourists), Budapest. Thats off the top of my head.

What about you?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 23/11/2012 21:22:14    1302148

yeah lads id have to agree with some of what roundball said maybe moving the league finals over is a bit soon but they havent much interest in ireland anyway but why would any gaa person have an issue with somebody in america or australia being able to watch a gaa championship which takes place in ireland on tv?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 23/11/2012 21:36:14    1302155

my response does not seem to have come true culann..sky is used extensively in ireland and britain so i do not see the issue..it used to provide gaa highlights a few years back...it covers american sports as well as irish rugby and irish internationals in soccer..its done a very good job with the heineken cup to be fair to them..i dont see why they wouldnt be interested in irish sport if there was a solid audience for it?..the more countries gaa is shown in the better

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 23/11/2012 21:38:59    1302156

i dont see why they wouldnt be interested in irish sport if there was a solid audience for it?..
ffgg

I personaly wouldn't want Sky to have anything to do with the broadcasting of gaelic games. I'd have a very negative opinion of Sky. If you want me to get back to an older debate I will but i do not really want to ruin what is a decent enough thread. Setanta already cover gaelic games and broadcast to the world. Leave sky to its gutter tabloid broadcasting.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 23/11/2012 21:50:52    1302169

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1742

1302155 yeah lads id have to agree with some of what roundball said maybe moving the league finals over is a bit soon but they havent much interest in ireland anyway but why would any gaa person have an issue with somebody in america or australia being able to watch a gaa championship which takes place in ireland on tv?

Nobody is gonna have a problem with people watching the gaa abroad, Theres a difference between that and wanting sky to have it, and then it be subscribtion for everyone. I love the idea of expats having opportunities to watch our best gaa players in action,people who cant get home or have the luxury that we at home do of watching our counties play when we want. I know its something for communities to look forward to and also any promotion is good.
But not the final of a league that needs promoting at home now more than ever.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 23/11/2012 21:55:30    1302175

oh i agree i have a negative opinion of sky myself in certain sports mainly soccer but they do a decent job on american football spanish football and the rugby..the tabloid element mainly comes with soccer as its the main game of course...tv3 are quite tabloid like themselves....im not saying sky over rte if thats what people think i mean..i just mean the game being more accessible in britain also and sky giving the sport coverage would not be a bad thing

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 23/11/2012 21:58:13    1302177

i agree having games outside the country is a different debate but getting the gaa on foreign channels would be a very beneficial thing

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 23/11/2012 21:59:17    1302179

ffgg
County: Longford
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god you have an awful siege mentality against dublin god relax..i agree the best city in world argument is all about opinions just saying in my own opinion the idea of dublin being it would be laughable...i dont know probably because new york are going to get hammered i suppose but gaa is big enough out there in new york and boston with all the irish out there..i agree the marketing in ireland is pathetic...i hope you do have the knowledge to know if sky were to show an irish sport i presume that would be with irish commentators pundits etc as thats basic common sense..sky may be a british tv station but it serves both britain and ireland so i dont see the issue..the gaa was setup over a century ago hill time has moved on i dont see any issue with providing non irish the chance to watch and get into the sport..stop trying to portray people as brainwashed just because they have different opinions to you..rte are in far too much of a comfort zone and do not treat the gaa with enough respect...i want the game to grow outside ireland do you not hill?..i dont see the issue with making gaa more accessible in other countries especially those with massive amounts of irish people

you see i never mentioned DUBLIN once in this thread and yet you continue to say the idea of dublin being this or that is laughable so i think its your mentality against dublin that needs to be looked at.a team representing the city is not getting any support or media attention a match between two teams with nothing got to do with the city is hardly going to make headlines and attract big crowd now is it? i dont think it serves both we just have it becuase as usual irish people want everything britiain has to offer.i would much rather see a gaa tv channel of its own that way it could provide all the needed macthes info updates and promote the games here and abroad without having to deal with all these named channels taking them for granted.well why dont we look for a german channell to screen our games answer is because the germans dont have as much media input in ireland so nobody knows much about their television.
no i think the game would be ruined and taken over by others if it went worldwide it would become like soccer a buisness and not a sport.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/11/2012 09:59:48    1302188

Culann

i aint trying to persuade you haha i think the international rules showcases our best players to be handpicked by aussie rules so it is causing more damage to our game then the money we get for attendances.
yeah i think a good idea for the league instead of wasting money going to america for a final(holiday) if they were to get managers on side with the promoting of the league,instead of hearing managers say yeah its not the be all and end all of our season if we dont win or saying we are going to use it to try out new players why dont they get them to lie if neccessary and advertise it by saying we have trained hard for this years league and theres only two national competitions so we will be going all out to win it or this is a big game for us the chance to play in a national final in croke park so we want to win it.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/11/2012 10:08:49    1302192