Mayo I just can't say they will win, surely they won't get a simple run to final again

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/01/2013 19:18:12    1318359

dunno about that royaldunne..being in connacht means its always going to be a simpler run to the quarters finals at the very least....it doesnt help that connacht teams are even poorer than usual as of late most notably galway

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 14/01/2013 19:24:55    1318367

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dunno about that royaldunne..being in connacht means its always going to be a simpler run to the quarters finals at the very least....it doesnt help that connacht teams are even poorer than usual as of late most notably galway

Wasn't "simple" for Mayo in the last two Connacht finals. Dublin usually walk Leinster in Munster it's Cork or Kerry since 1992! and up in Ulster Tyrone/Armagh ruled until Jimmy winning matches came along.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4320 - 14/01/2013 21:44:08    1318423

Mayo wont get an easy run to the final - but then again, they haven't a bad record when they don't get that easy run... what are the odds on six different champions in six years????

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 15/01/2013 09:54:56    1318468

Ahh come on out of that will yas., mayo will not win a all ire, forget about what went on this year and the unbelievable luck they had to reach final, when they finally met a team playing well the got blown away im ten minutes. They would have to be one mighty improvement from them to win it and avoid the better teams, the all ire is between the top 4 donegal., cork, kerry., Dublin. In that order, now mayo are best of the rest but can they avoid them 4 on way to final i doubt it, also there are teams on a par with them that could beat them on any given day, the likes of Tyrone kildare laois would not fear facing mayo and i know meath would relish it after all fifty two years is a long gap to bridge

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2013 18:07:26    1318778

mayo played well within themselves in both finals...roscommon and sligo are not great sides..they arent even good ones..they are poor teams

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 15/01/2013 18:09:27    1318780

Mayo. I honestly think they could have beaten Donegal last year, especially if the corner back didn't drop the ball 10 yards out, I think that had a huge effect on the outcome of the game itself(it was a free down the other end before that anyways for a foul on Cillian O Connor which the ref did not give). I just think Mayo have a great team, especially their forwards who got some great scores in that final and they will have Andy Moran back next year too.

boomcha (Offaly) - Posts: 39 - 15/01/2013 18:16:03    1318785

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Ahh come on out of that will yas., mayo will not win a all ire, forget about what went on this year and the unbelievable luck they had to reach final, when they finally met a team playing well the got blown away im ten minutes. They would have to be one mighty improvement from them to win it and avoid the better teams, the all ire is between the top 4 donegal., cork, kerry., Dublin. In that order, now mayo are best of the rest but can they avoid them 4 on way to final i doubt it, also there are teams on a par with them that could beat them on any given day, the likes of Tyrone kildare laois would not fear facing mayo and i know meath would relish it after all fifty two years is a long gap to bridge

Yet another anti Mayoite ......Under Horans term, we have beat Dublin , we have beat Cork both in championship and Kerry in this years league semi final out of the teams you mention that we would need a ''mighty improvement to beat''.

How can all this stuff in here and the media keep holding water when its all b/s based on Mayos history and not the present set up. ''relish'' omfg i can not tell you how much we would relish a championship game against the royals.

Honest, transparent analysis is whats needed, Mayo have been a fookin revelation under Horan, he has taken us from the depths of despair from that evening in Longford in 2010 to serious challengers for Sam Maguire. We have been brilliant, everyone has focused on this faux image brolly has painted from the Dublin game, what about the bloody scores we took that day, how Cillian silenced the deafening hill with 45s sailing over at the age of 20 years. How we lost our main man in the q/f and still progressed to the final, how we never dropped the heads in the final. etc etc..

Cant wait for the summer but we know now, no matter what we do now, Sam is the only thing that will satisfy our need. Unlike your own crew where a measly provincial would suffice. Streets apart , you know.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 15/01/2013 18:42:12    1318803

DERRY :)

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 15/01/2013 19:10:30    1318815

Ok gave a detailed reason why there is no way mayo can win sam this year or in the foreseeable a.d wasn't put up? Odd. Anyhow 51. You will be waiting a long time to see sam in castlebar it will be in navan sooner and thats not going to happen for a few years

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2013 19:39:28    1318833

no suprise longago u leave out the fact cork were extremely short v mayo yet bring up mayo missing players?...also ignoring the fact mayo were comprehensively defeated in the semi v kerry in 2011...i feel mayo are a contender but i cant see them winning to be honest..when you start off a final like last years after all the talk of years gone by you cant exactly have much faith in a side like that

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 15/01/2013 20:52:52    1318869

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mayo played well within themselves in both finals...roscommon and sligo are not great sides..they arent even good ones..they are poor teams

Disagree about Mayo playing within themselves in both finals.. that's just lazy lazy analysis and while your lot is going well now anyone following Longford football for a few decades will have good experience about a poor team! Longago you also forgot about the London game they missed a late late free and that miss allowed Mayo to bring the game to extra time. A defeat to London would have been far worse than those defeats to Longford,Sligo a major turning point for James Horan and Mayo football.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4320 - 15/01/2013 21:27:47    1318891

if its lazy analysis then why have sligo and roscommon both failed to do anything since?...you really feel mayos performance in those connaught finals were comperable to their performances in the quarter finals after?...completely different side...they are div 3 sides...i never said longford were anything special either so i dont see why your bringing that up

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 15/01/2013 21:35:38    1318895

and its also lazy analysis to suggest longford footballers are going well also..beating two teams we were expected to beat isnt exactly going well and both at home so a lot more work to be done there

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 15/01/2013 21:36:36    1318896

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if its lazy analysis then why have sligo and roscommon both failed to do anything since?...you really feel mayos performance in those connaught finals were comperable to their performances in the quarter finals after?...completely different side...they are div 3 sides...i never said longford were anything special either so i dont see why your bringing that up

What happened to oursleves,Sligo since matters little to the point i was making. Wasn't it you that said Mayo had simple route even though Sligo pushed them all the way and led that Connacht final for most of the game it wasn't until AOS came on (returned from injury) that they shaked off their challenge. Speaking of challenges the Down attempt was a poor one in QF and Dublin didn't play well untill that last 15mins when it was too late.

You can't switch form on and off though teams can grow in confidence the more wins they get and will naturally improve the further they progress.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4320 - 15/01/2013 21:55:56    1318903

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and its also lazy analysis to suggest longford footballers are going well also..beating two teams we were expected to beat isnt exactly going well and both at home so a lot more work to be done there

Or teams in the past you would expect to lose too. Longford are playing Div 2 football now = going well so far..

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4320 - 15/01/2013 21:58:56    1318906

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I have read a good few of you posts on different threads and its clear you have a serious problem with Mayo like a few posters here which is sad really. You and others complain of certain mayo poster on this site trying to make excuses yet all I see are excuses for the reasons Mayo get to so many finals.

One thing is for sure you as a Longford man will never see your team play on All Ireland final day or even a semi. You have to take flak from some counties in here such as Kerry, Cork, (funnily enough they posters dont seem to slag other counties), Donegal (current champs) and the dubs of course but not Longford.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11999 - 16/01/2013 09:03:20    1318917

Yew_tree; what a joke of a comment directed at ffgg. What relevance does what county a man is from have on his opinion on the sport? You knock him because he's from Longford, what chance would Mayo have of playing in an All- Ireland Final or Semi-Final if they had a population of 30,000 people? When was the last time a county that doesn't have a large population won the All-Ireland………………to my mind it was Offaly in 1982!!!

Small counties with populations the equivalent of some large towns in other counties will never win the All-Ireland, the numbers games make it virtually impossible for them. We aren't all on a level playing pitch in this regard, are you that uniformed that you can't see that?

For what it's worth I think you're a great poster ffgg and agree with nearly all the sentiments you have expressed on here …………..and yes Mayo do have an easy run of it in Connacht, playing a few division 3 teams most years to get into an AI Quarter-Final. In my opinion the reason Mayo have failed to land the elusive AI Final is because they were not good enough, simple as that.

LetterkennyMan (Donegal) - Posts: 393 - 16/01/2013 11:41:51    1318997

And another things for sure yew_tree; if Longford played in Connacht rather than Leinster, they would have more provincial titles and have had a greater chance at reaching All-Ireland Finals and Semi's. Longford would both traditionally and currently have been as strong if not stronger than Leitrim, Sligo and Roscommon, and we won't even include the powerhouse that is New York in that list!

So down of your high horse now like a good lad!

LetterkennyMan (Donegal) - Posts: 393 - 16/01/2013 11:49:24    1319003

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Yew_tree; what a joke of a comment directed at ffgg. What relevance does what county a man is from have on his opinion on the sport?

Ddint mean to come across as that but there is too much Mayo bashing going on here. The easy run thing makes me laugh. Bar Ulster, Dublin, Cork, Kerry all have easy runs and have no problem getting out of their provience. I suppose Mayo had easy runs in all the finals we get too?


In my opinion the reason Mayo have failed to land the elusive AI Final is because they were not good enough, simple as that.

I agree with you and no genuine mayo person person will argue with that bar 96 we have been the second best team. But I guess second best teams can be classed as bottlers also.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11999 - 16/01/2013 12:40:07    1319031