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Galway won the All Ireland in 1998 lost the 2000 replay to Kerry and won the All Ireland 2001 they were great and with a forward line of Joyce,Donnellan,Fallon etc they should have won more. Mayo should have beaten Meath in 1996 they haven't got that close to winning it since.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3878 - 16/01/2013 20:37:22    1319427

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51 you are talking complete nonsense, that mayo team were not fit to lace that meaths team boots and you know it, you say you back next year yep you were and lost again. Whereas that meath team WON Again in 99 and were beat by the ONLY good team to come out of west in last twenty years. If meath had played a quarter to their ability we would have beat them out of sight, we hardly turned up and still we had enough to win. Don't figure!!!!!

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2013 20:56:41    1319434

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Ffgg absolutely right meath were by far the superior team in 96, and showed it in replay. Even David Brady admitted it (ok took him awhile) but he said mayo could not handle meaths fitness and ability that day of the replay

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2013 21:00:34    1319436

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51 many analyst's say meath winning only 2 all ire between 96-01 and reaching 3 finals underachieved. Sean boylan is quated as saying he wished mayo had won im 96 as we would have won more than 2 in that time, no matter how good you think mayo were it pales into insignificant compared to that great team, only galway came near to them, and they should have won at least another two titles

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2013 21:10:42    1319441

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51 you are talking complete nonsense, that mayo team were not fit to lace that meaths team boots and you know it, you say you back next year yep you were and lost again. Whereas that meath team WON Again in 99 and were beat by the ONLY good team to come out of west in last twenty years. If meath had played a quarter to their ability we would have beat them out of sight, we hardly turned up and still we had enough to win. Don't figure!!!!!
royaldunne


You should recompose that sentence royaldunne, and add in "lace that Meath teams gloves!
Anyone who remembers the Meath team of 96 knows why! ;)

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 16/01/2013 21:13:57    1319443

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ffgg
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that galway team played great exciting football but i dunno if they were 'great'...meath were the superior team in 96 and they showed it in the replay..


You remind me of another Longford man, Eugene McGee with his comments about Galway being 'fancy dans' in '98........

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 925 - 16/01/2013 21:27:45    1319450

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i was a big fan of that team ailteoir dont get me wrong just think they underachieved

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 16/01/2013 21:31:26    1319452

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The gate keeper that meath team were tough without a doubt, were they any worse than Tyrone or armagh of later years? Nope, a few counties like to take the moral high ground on these matters, as much as i dislike both Dublin and kildare never once complained about that meath team and they played us more than any other county. And remember it was mayo who started the row in the replay not meath now ok we won it hands down, but we didn't start it, just finished it

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2013 21:35:11    1319454

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Given the forwards we had the time ffgg, you're right enough there.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 925 - 16/01/2013 21:40:21    1319459

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yes exactly..2 of my favourite footballers ever padraig joyce and michael donnelan

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 16/01/2013 21:44:55    1319463

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royaldunne - Get off your high horse....Mayo and Meath were pretty even in 1996. The context of my post that that year was the only year I remember where we could and from our point of view, should have won - never mind the reply - it was our inability to hold onto the ball in the dying seconds that cost us dearly. Remember there was 35 seconds left when Coyle launched that hail mary kick - if it bounced wide Mayo would have won but there you go.

Meath's never say die attitude won them that all Ireland which is to yer credit and which is a meath tradition. The only grip I have ever had with a Meath man was after the final whistle in 2001 - I was 15 at the time (mayo jersey on me) and turned around to a meath man behind me to shake his hands - he said "I don't shake hands with a Mayo man..." - was it you royal ;) ????? - I know there is that thorny issue of the land relocation back in the day and all.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11999 - 17/01/2013 09:00:01    1319492

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I'm not being smart but I genuinely think Mayo would have had a far better chance of winning an All-Ireland after 96 were it not for all the cringe worthy whinging back, as far as they were concerned that was their one and only chance 'taken away' from them, they should have just taken a big deep breath and said 'to hell with it, we'll win it next year'. And just for the record I wouldn't mind seeing them land an AI, it must be pretty difficult for genuine fans at this stage.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 17/01/2013 09:57:23    1319518

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Ispeakmuck…………….

You do know Mayo's last All Ireland was in 1951 right?

What's that got to do with you using your All-Ireland victory in 1944 to prove how strong a football in county Roscommon is? Haha your funny I'll give you that!

You do know we weren't always a Div 3 team in 2002 we were top of the div 1 table. Longford no Cavan maybe as like ourselves the have some good tradition.

Give me a break, wow you played division 1 football in 2002, Longford have played division 1 football since then, beat ye in the division 4 final two years ago and next year are plying their trade in division 2, while ye lads are playing in division 3……………what's your point here exactly?

Again did you just start following football the last decade or so?

Negative again on this one young man! Come to think of it your most likely actually in your 90's, seen as pre 1945 Roscommon is your area of expertise, your peers so to speak, maybe that's the explanation for the illusions of grandeur.

Don't know about that i think Galway of the 60s early 00s would have strolled through some provinces same can be said Mayo.

"Strolled through"……you really are deluded. The Galway team of the aforementioned eras, in my opinion, was the only top quality side that came out of Connacht in the last 50 years. Their All-Ireland record compared to the record of Connacht's other representative teams in AI Finals demonstrates this unequivocally.

Ill not respond to you last comment, suffice to say I know my history football and otherwise probably by an infinite margin compared to your so called knowledge, and furthermore speaking of history……..your firmly living in the past!

LetterkennyMan (Donegal) - Posts: 393 - 17/01/2013 10:32:01    1319533

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Htaem
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"they should have just taken a big deep breath and said 'to hell with it, we'll win it next year"


Funny enough I thought that is what we have been trying to do.......since 96 we have been back in the final in 97, 04,06,2012 - We keep coming back. We as supporters might go on about 96 but I can't imagine mayo players going out on final day thinking "wa wa wa - we were robbed in 96" so your argument does not stack up my friend.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11999 - 17/01/2013 10:44:40    1319537

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I'm talking about the 96 team yew_tree, I thought they had the talent to win an AI in the few years after 96 but surely all the nonsense that followed affected them mentally. I know quite a lot of Mayo people because of the land commission in our area and 96 was all they bloody talked about for a number of years, it got very bitter down our way and I couldn't understand why they didn't just accept that they were beaten by the better team and forget about it. By the way I don't want this to be sounding too personal because a lot of those people were and still are good mates of mine and I genuinely mean it when I say I'd like to see Mayo getting the monkey off their backs.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 17/01/2013 11:33:13    1319566

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Please god anyone but Donegal (Meath and Kildare aswell of course) to win Sam this year, they were horrible winners of our beatiful game with there packed defences with sweepers getting all stars at wing forward and there constant fouling and dirty play they make me sick . I'm telling you now Donegal and Jim mcguinness are the worst thing to ever happen to our game. Please god there put in there place this year.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 17/01/2013 11:37:36    1319568

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Ah clondalkin, still not able to analyse football properly I see....

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10280 - 17/01/2013 12:19:05    1319594

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Your idea of "our beautiful game" is still 1 to 15 man on man? You're living in cloud cuckoo land son if you think that. Simply put, modern tactics mean that traditional positions named count for nothing and if you can't see that the same applies to your beloved Dubs then you're completely blinkered.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10280 - 17/01/2013 12:26:56    1319599

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Sure Meath are the reason Dublin won the All Ireland in 2011 anyway Lockjaw, if we hadn't of put 5 past Cluxton they would never have changed the system and so would never have won it. There you are it was really us Royals who got the job done for Dublin......well us and Joe McQuillan of course ;-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 17/01/2013 12:55:14    1319616

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clondalkindub
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1319568 Please god anyone but Donegal (Meath and Kildare aswell of course) to win Sam this year, they were horrible winners of our beatiful game with there packed defences with sweepers getting all stars at wing forward and there constant fouling and dirty play they make me sick . I'm telling you now Donegal and Jim mcguinness are the worst thing to ever happen to our game. Please god there put in there place this year.


You fail to see or see but fail to recognise the evolution in Donegal's game, you still talk of the 2011 Donegal tactics as if they are ever present.
Donegal produced some of the most entertaining games of 2012, especially in that cracker with Cork in the SF.

We are currently going through an excellent phase in Gaelic football, with 5 All Ireland football champions in 5 years. When a team wins an All Ireland, Gaelic games in that county normally get a huge boost.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3045 - 17/01/2013 13:41:30    1319662

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